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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: RC51Racer on May 28, 2003, 04:20:17 AM

Title: New Class.....
Post by: RC51Racer on May 28, 2003, 04:20:17 AM
...., the Formual Almost Forty.  Just be close to 40 and sign up.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Super Dave on May 28, 2003, 04:25:03 AM
Can I ride my 1973 H1 in it and be 35?
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: EX#996 on May 28, 2003, 04:32:13 AM
QuoteCan I ride my 1973 H1 in it and be 35?

LOL!!!

That would be Formula 105 (age of the bike and the rider).  We used to have that at horse shows where you would add the age of the horse and the rider.

Dawn   :)
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: RC51Racer on May 28, 2003, 04:32:35 AM
QuoteCan I ride my 1973 H1 in it and be 35?

I bet you can, just talk to Kevin Elloit.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: sdiver68 on May 28, 2003, 06:03:05 AM
I would love for Formula 40 to be the age of bike and rider.  I think I would do OK on a 96 GSXR750 :)
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: KBOlsen on May 28, 2003, 06:57:36 AM
I could bring the Tiller!  Yippee!!
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on May 28, 2003, 07:51:01 AM
<Beavis and Butthead>  Uhhhhhhh...huh, huh....old people are cool.  Yeah, Yeah.......heh, heh....old dudes RULE!!!  <Beavis and Butthead>



 ;D
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: RC51Racer on May 28, 2003, 09:40:41 AM
I as far as I can tell, the rule book has been thrown away, and with just a phone call to the proper individual, you can get anything changed.  To hell with the rule book, we'll just say we forgot to change it!!

That's the way myself, and a a few others see it.  It must be the corrct procedure, it's the one in use.

Normally, I don't vent, but times have changed.

Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Dawn on May 28, 2003, 10:33:43 AM
Go ahead and vent Mike, we all do at times.

Some will agree with you and other's won't, but you will need to give more details in regards to the situation if anyone is going to form an opinion one way or another.  

This is my understanding of the situation, please let me know if this is incorrect.

A local racer heard that there was going to be a rule change for F40 class for the year 2003.  It stated that anyone who would turn 40 in the first half of the year would be able to race that class and obtain points.  This racer contact Kevin Elliott, the director of competition, and asked if that was true.  Kevin said yes.  This racer then pre-entered for the entire 2003 racing season this past January based on the conversation with Mr. Elliott.

The 2003 rule book was issued and the rule change did not make it in the book.  An error on CCS's part.

All was fine until the May 17th race at Gateway when it was discovered that this local racer was 39 and would not be 40 until June.  CCS was about to disallow all points in that class earned this year and not allow him to participate in classes that he was pre-entered for.

An appeal was filed by this local racer, a board was formed, and the judgement was found in this local racer's favor.

This local racer in my opinion played by the rules.  It wasn't a problem with any of you guys until he told the truth.  Perhaps he should have just have kept his mouth shut.

I know everyone involved, and I think all acted with integrity.  The local racer abided by what his was told and went through the proper steps and procedures.  Kevin Elliott admitted his mistake when presented to the board.

My $0.02

Dawn  
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on May 28, 2003, 11:08:00 AM
Can't we all just get along?   ;D
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Baltobuell on May 28, 2003, 11:13:25 AM
 Gad Zooks, it's F40. It's supposed to be fun.

 PS: at Summit I had a blast as a midpacker racing with a  buddy on a 600. We can get in each others way real good. ;D
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: KBOlsen on May 28, 2003, 11:49:05 AM
With absent friends in mind, thank you Dawn.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 28, 2003, 07:14:34 PM
Go ahead Mr Schock.  Name names.

I hope we're still going to be friends after this.  It's not like I was trying to screw anybody.  Dawn called it exactly as it happened.

What really impressed me was the fact that Kevin Elliot openly admitted that he had told me about the rule change but forgot to add it to the book.  He lost a lot of face on that one.  It would have been so easy for him to deny the whole thing.  All he would have had to do was develop a case of "Selective Memory," and I would have been SOL, looking like a cheater, and stripped of the clean reputation that I'm so proud of.  It took guts to own up like Kevin did.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 28, 2003, 07:29:54 PM
QuoteI as far as I can tell, the rule book has been thrown away, and with just a phone call to the proper individual, you can get anything changed.  To hell with the rule book, we'll just say we forgot to change it!!


Think about it.  I don't have money.  I don't carry influence.  I'm not good looking.  I'm not even really that fast.  How exactly would I have the ability to place a phone call and get the rulebook changed to my advantage?  
We've been friends a long time, but after the decision at MAM you snubbed me.  What's up with that?
A panel of RACERS heard the appeal, weighed the evidence, then decided in my favor.  I didn't carry any weight with them.  It was truly a jury of my peers, and couldn't have been any more fair.

Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Gixxer124 on May 28, 2003, 07:32:46 PM
How about Formula 42. Sorry K3, your to young. ;D
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: roadracer797 on May 29, 2003, 02:26:51 AM
How about F43 sorry Kevin now your too young, oh and no yellow plated sand baggers either.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: RC51Racer on May 29, 2003, 04:04:22 AM
All I'm trying to say is there is a printed rule book.  Do we use it or not?

Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: EX#996 on May 29, 2003, 04:45:12 AM
QuoteHow about F43 sorry Kevin now your too young, oh and no yellow plated sand baggers either.

LOL!!!

Poor Kevin, he can't get any respect or sympathy.

Dawn   ;D
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: tigerblade on May 29, 2003, 07:03:06 AM
QuoteAll I'm trying to say is there is a printed rule book.  Do we use it or not?


Sure!  Got an uneven leg on your breakfast table?    ;)
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Super_KC124 on May 29, 2003, 03:19:33 PM
QuoteHow about F43 sorry Kevin now your too young, oh and no yellow plated sand baggers either.
Oh yeh! I'll be 43 within 6 months. Read the new rule book you old fart.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: roadracer797 on May 30, 2003, 11:54:25 AM
Kevin
That only states about 40 not 43 you young sandbagger you
and my rule book says nothing about turning it says you must be
Craig
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Baltobuell on May 30, 2003, 01:13:22 PM
You guys are goofy, I'd sell my house to be too young for f40.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: lightweightgp on May 30, 2003, 04:38:19 PM
QuoteGo ahead and vent Mike, we all do at times.
A local racer heard that there was going to be a rule change for F40 class for the year 2003.  It stated that anyone who would turn 40 in the first half of the year would be able to race that class and obtain points.   


i thought that i could race F40 if i was going to turn  40 during the calendar year.   that is the way it has always been explained to me.   i admit to not checking the rule book on it, though.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Bernie on May 30, 2003, 07:17:56 PM
QuoteYou guys are goofy, I'd sell my house to be too young for f40.

I used to be able to make a kick ass fake ID.  Waddya want, like 27 or something? :P
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Baltobuell on May 31, 2003, 08:23:23 AM
Oh if ID would only make it real. I'd start again at about 12.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Super_KC124 on May 31, 2003, 12:54:42 PM
QuoteOh if ID would only make it real. I'd start again at about 12.
I'd go for 39 so I could start a year early in F40.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: the_weggie_man on May 31, 2003, 06:34:30 PM
So when do we get a F50 class? :o
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Super_KC124 on May 31, 2003, 06:54:54 PM
Why not? There are quite a few of you "Golden Anniversery Edition" racers out there. ;D
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: the_weggie_man on June 01, 2003, 08:51:28 PM
My point .... dirt trackers have a senior and super senior class why shouldn't we? Hell we have a class for everything else. A couple more and we can have less practice and shorter races. Isn't that what you all pay increased fees for? ???

Let's see.... a bagger class for full dressers, cruiser class, motard class, minis, classic, vintage, the list goes on. Oh yeah and no minimum participation required, one bike and you have a class. ;D
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Baltobuell on June 01, 2003, 09:17:27 PM
 Now that's the spirit. Someday I'm going to win the old white guys on limited displacement air cooled twins class. Then I'll be somebody.
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on June 02, 2003, 03:17:53 AM
QuoteNow that's the spirit. Someday I'm going to win the old white guys on limited displacement air cooled twins class. Then I'll be somebody.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Too funny!
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Super_KC124 on June 02, 2003, 01:54:32 PM
Don't forget the scooter class. :-X
Title: Re: New Class.....
Post by: Baltobuell on June 02, 2003, 07:16:24 PM
 The day they start my new class, D. Bugsy Mann will be stopping by Gary Nixons house. They'll be screwing around and break out the old Rickmans to see if they run and say 'Hey, For the hell of it, lets go to Summit" (sigh)