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Title: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Classic?
Post by: duc995@aol.com on May 18, 2003, 12:30:02 PM
The ccs link doesn't work, and the official Las Vegas Motorspeedway denies its existence!  Thanks... :)
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: zx9r-racer on May 18, 2003, 04:52:16 PM
I heard 2.2 miles, but not 100% sure...
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: duc995@aol.com on May 18, 2003, 08:28:58 PM
Thanks...I found a reference that states 2.25 and another that states 2.5 miles.  I am just surprised that the Las Vegas Motorspeedway web site doesn't even mention that there is a road course. :-/
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: Zac on May 19, 2003, 04:05:40 PM
The CCS lap time sheets listed the length as 2.00 miles, and that's what the average speeds were based on, but that dosen't mean I'll put any faith in it.

-Zac
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: rick on May 19, 2003, 04:07:57 PM
The map on Las Vegas Speedways webpage, http://www.lvms.com, says it's 1.8 miles. I think that 1.8 is pretty close just based on laptimes. :)
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: duc995@aol.com on May 20, 2003, 07:58:07 AM
I think you are quoting the course on the inside of the motorspeedway as it is less than 2 miles.  The outside (classic) road course is definately more than 2 miles long.  Thanks... ;D
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: rick on May 20, 2003, 10:16:42 AM
Nope, I'm quoting the facility map on their website - like I said. :)
But, to save you the trouble of looking:
(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lvms.com%2Fimages%2Flvmsoverview.jpg&hash=52c7bb214a3a0dc64b79643b66f6421e7e691919)
http://www.lvms.com/corporate_marketing/facility_map/

...wether or not the map is accurate is up for grabs. :)
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: duc995@aol.com on May 20, 2003, 12:19:01 PM
Thanks, Rick...great map! ;D
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: brookester on May 21, 2003, 04:31:04 PM
It's amazing how long the course seems when you're riding your scooter around it looking for your transponder in the dirt. :-/
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: raptorduck952 on May 22, 2003, 06:53:10 AM
The Freddie Spencer school, which uses both the inside course and the Classic road course, always quotes the inside course at 1.1 miles and the outside Classic Course that we raced on at 2.2 miles.
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: Dave_Alexander on May 22, 2003, 10:09:22 AM
That map looks out of date.  Notice how the final two turns leading onto the front straight are missing.  Perhaps it was 1.8 before it was reconfigured?
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: rick on May 22, 2003, 11:47:44 AM
Hey, now that you mention it, it does seem to e missing a couple of corners.  :'(
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: tshort on May 22, 2003, 12:37:57 PM
12". :o
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: MightyDuc Racing on May 22, 2003, 01:01:34 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: rick on May 22, 2003, 06:38:44 PM
I've been thinking about average speed and lap times and, if the course is 2.2 miles, I had some unusually fast average speeds even at my lowly pace.

Let's say someone was doing 1:35 - then their average speed was a little over 83mph. Which seems unusually high. For example, that's significantly faster than a good chunk of AMA guys at their last sears point race (and way faster than a couple). Sure, different tracks and all that but, that's just in terms of average speed.

Maybe the big map just has a crappy picture. Either way, I'd be surprised if that extra turn would add nearly half a mile. I would guess something more like an eigth of a mile.
 ???
Title: Re: Anybody know the length of the Las Vegas Class
Post by: Mongrel on May 22, 2003, 07:34:19 PM
This is the classic course I know.  I believe it is close to 2 miles.  It was redesigned within the last 3 or 4 years.

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.inficad.com%2F%7Ewnielsen%2FWayne%2FLasvegasClasic.jpg&hash=83a50d5f2686db8380b3788805efdaca2b6838ef)