My understanding is that all the races in the state of FL were put under the umbrella of Henry D's Florida region.
My question for CCS is, is there a possibility of swapping back and forth for the region who has "home field"? And by that I mean, when it is a combined weekend, why not make it a Fl weekend then a SE weekend then FL etc?
When we go to Roebling the same thing could be done. The only difference for a combined SE and Mid-Atlantic region is who wears the loser X badge on the number plates. <g> However, at Jennings the change is not so simple. I understand Henry D prefers the practice on Sat and race on Sunday format, and that is fine if it works for them. However, I know many people who prefer it the way the rest of the local regions run things.
I am NOT flaming or busting Henry's chops, etc for running his region the way he wants. He runs his region the way he sees fit. His prerogative.
I am asking CCS if there is room for change so everyone gets a little of what they want? After all, it is only 20 miles to GA.
If you pay my salary that I lose taking the extra day off work, I'm cool with that. :)
By the way...who wears the "X" at Jennings, Florida or SE? I saw that there's a AM #944 in the SE too.
Hi there fellow ducster. Normally the SE guys will wear the X as we are the visitors.
Thanks Chewy. What day are you heading there? I'll be there Friday afternoon. I'm guessing some time around 1:30 or 2:00 depending on traffic through the Tampa area. Leaving here at about 7:30.
I still have not decided if I am gonna make that round or not. If I do we will be down on Friday night.
Be sure to come and find me and say hi if you do decide to come. I'll have a white trailer with F&S Racing on the side and a red Durango.
Hey Jon...I checked out your website. Great video page and overall cool site. I especially like the bodywork flying off on the front stretch of VIR video. Woops! Thanks! :)
Does anyone know the schedule of events for Jennings ? I'm a Fla region virgin. I am assuming no open practice on Friday. Is the official events schedule posted anywhere ? Thanx
Can i run as an amature, since i've never run in Henry's Fla region ?
QuoteCan i run as an amature, since i've never run in Henry's Fla region ?
Kevin:
If you are an amatuer in one region, you will be an amatuer in another. However, the same goes for the Expert status...
Dawn :)
CCS AM/EX status doesn't change from region to region...lol. There is a Friday practice session being held by Jennings staff for $100. See this thread for other race weekend info.
http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=ccs1;action=display;num=1050934445
QuoteCan i run as an amature, since i've never run in Henry's Fla region ?
Yeah, right Kevin! I think your single digit MidAtlantic number just might give you away. ;D
QuoteMy understanding is that all the races in the state of FL were put under the umbrella of Henry D's Florida region.
My question for CCS is, is there a possibility of swapping back and forth for the region who has "home field"? And by that I mean, when it is a combined weekend, why not make it a Fl weekend then a SE weekend then FL etc?
When we go to Roebling the same thing could be done. The only difference for a combined SE and Mid-Atlantic region is who wears the loser X badge on the number plates. <g> However, at Jennings the change is not so simple. I understand Henry D prefers the practice on Sat and race on Sunday format, and that is fine if it works for them. However, I know many people who prefer it the way the rest of the local regions run things.
I am NOT flaming or busting Henry's chops, etc for running his region the way he wants. He runs his region the way he sees fit. His prerogative.
I am asking CCS if there is room for change so everyone gets a little of what they want? After all, it is only 20 miles to GA.
Disclaimer: this is not an oblique swipe at Henry DeGouw or CCS, just my opinion.
Forgive me for being dense, but I've never actually seen a reason espoused for the way the Fla. region is run. (Not that I'm entitled to or anything -- I mean, I just the guy paying the bills!!). Is it (as Jon states above) "Henry D's Florida region" or CCS's? The reason I ask? From another thread:
QuoteThe practice on Friday is run by Jennings GP. We offer all day practice on Saturday. There are three groups that rotate all day. You will get 6 to 8 rounds of practice (last month they got 7) for $75. On Sunday we run all races including GT's and all are 7 lap sprints. The cost is $50. per class. You have until Tuesday April 29th to pre-enter and must be sent to me not CCS in TX. No credit cards accepted and checks will be deposited the day after the races. I hope this answers your questions. If you have any more please contact me at your convenience. Or ask the questions here as others would like to know.
HD
Pay particular attention to the line: "You have until Tuesday April 29th to pre-enter and must be sent to me not CCS in TX."
My 'take' on the whole issue is this: I pay money to CCS to race, not practice. A six or seven lap GTO or GTU is, in my humble estimation, brain damaged. Unfortunately, the GTO/GTU format happens to suit the way I like to race (let everyone else have the turn one craziness, let things shake out, then race), and it's just unfortunate that 'the powers that be' in the CCS FL region see fit to stick all the racing into one day. (Sure am glad that VIR isn't in Florida...)
Track time does not racing make. If I wanted more track time at a particular track, I'd go to a practice day there (either before an event or on 'my own time'). I pay money to race -- the practice is for setting up my bike and calibrating myself.
Hell, I could be wrong -- but I doubt it.
R
The way it was originally explained to me is that more racers in Florida wanted the Sunday race day schedule than not because they could race all of the classes and not have to miss any work. Henry runs a great program down here from what I've seen so far. I am glad this is my region.
Richard
I appreciate the "disclaimer" in your post and also for not "taking an oblique swipe at me".
So thanks for the compliments about the Florida Region of CCS. I guess VIR is a lot closer to Jacksonville than Jennings? ;D
HD
Rick,
The AMA has a bunch of longer races on their weekends. Why not just do that instead?
;D :D ;D :D
QuoteCan i run as an amature, since i've never run in Henry's Fla region ?
ROFLMAO
Afraid it will be too cold next week at Summit? ::)
QuoteThe way it was originally explained to me is that more racers in Florida wanted the Sunday race day schedule than not because they could race all of the classes and not have to miss any work. Henry runs a great program down here from what I've seen so far. I am glad this is my region.
This is one of the reasons im running CCS.. i can run my business M-F, practice on sat.. (or not) but race all day sunday and back to work monday (if i had a good race day ;D)
I may do some WERA stuff too but for now this club racing format works for me.. and thats what this is.. club racing.. Moto cross was the same way. All the races run on sunday unless under the lights saturday night at Dade city..
later!
yeah its all fine and good till you try to stuff 20 morons into turn 1 and get red flags up the wazoo, which then translates into 5, no 4, no maybe 3 lap sprints. I saiad it before I'm saying it again keep the
Florida region by itself and leave us SE out of it.
Quoteyeah its all fine and good till you try to stuff 20 morons into turn 1 and get red flags up the wazoo, which then translates into 5, no 4, no maybe 3 lap sprints. I saiad it before I'm saying it again keep the
Florida region by itself and leave us SE out of it.
im kinda new to racing but could you explain why the 20 morons would not be charging into turn one in some other part of the country as hard as they do in the florida region????
My guess is he's either talking about the GT races being sprints rather than 30 minutes, so everybody wants a good start cuz there's no time to make it up in 6 laps (7 at Jennings)....or...he's saying that nobody is good enough in the CCS to get through all the races in a day without a melee in turn 1 causing a red flag and delays and therefore shortened races to fit them all in. I've been going to watch the CCS for a few years, and have just started racing, and have yet to see a race shortened on Sunday unless it's red-flagged on the last lap or something. Just my .02. By the way monkey-boy, nobody's twisting your arm to come race in our region...you could always skip a round. ::)
QuoteRichard
I appreciate the "disclaimer" in your post and also for not "taking an oblique swipe at me".
So thanks for the compliments about the Florida Region of CCS. I guess VIR is a lot closer to Jacksonville than Jennings? ;D
HD
Henry (if I may call you 'Henry'),
Plan on answering any of the questions that I posed?
Re-reading my post, I didn't notice any compliments about the (your?) FL CCS region. (Not trying to be a d i c k, just clearing up any misconceptions).
If the past VIR round was run with the FL CCS schedule, races 8 - 12 wouldn't have been run. (The aformentioned four races were moved from the end of the schedule on Saturday to the beginning of the schedule on Sunday due to red flags and 'various' other on-track issues.)
Rick
QuoteRick,
The AMA has a bunch of longer races on their weekends. Why not just do that instead?
;D ;D
Yeah right! I get my a s s handed to me by you on a regular basis -- and the AMA guys play around alot less than even you!! ;D
My feeble racing skills coupled with my feeble equipment: I'd be the guy that we all see on TV during the AMA weekends getting lapped on the 9th lap of a race!!
R
Quote By the way monkey-boy, nobody's twisting your arm to come race in our region...you could always skip a round. ::)
This is the type of thing I was trying to avoid with the thread. Unfortunately, all the Jennings GP weekends are considered combined SE and FL. That is why I asked CCS people if we can swap the "home track" back and forth.
I believe BadMonkey was trying to say the same thing that Rick said, he may just not of spelled it out enough. If when you run all races in one day, and on the first race you have a 30 minute delay due to red flags, and then you have again a red flag on the 6th race for 30 min, all the people at the end of the day get screwed out of laps and or races.
MighyDuc, if you have not seen a race shortened, then you have not gone to that many race weekends. It happens often. The advantage of the 2 day format is that it allows for scheduling flexability.
I completely understand Jon, and would personally not mind swapping occasionally to your format. I kinda want to run a 30 min race some time. Hopefully by now you know not to take me too seriously on the BBS boards. ;) However, I still love our format, and my last race is number 13 out of 20...lol. That's what those guys get in the Unlimited GP (race 20) for being so fast! ;D
I've seen saturday races at Roebling get pushed to sunday/screwing up Sundays schedule-so neither format is perfect-perhaps if people would stop crashing....It seems that most people that have a problem with the Florida region dont race here-hmmmm-why is that??? And since I work saturdays-the Florida schedule works for me.Just my opinion.
The added problem at jennings is the late start time. I know they take lunch early but races dont start till 11.00-1130. Maybe a compermise would be 10 laps gt races on sat. afternoon and sprints on sunday. All the races crammed into sunday afternoon makes for a very long hectic day even without any delays. Almost everyone has a long drive home from jennings, if the races were split sat/sun we would have a much better chance of getting out of there at a decent time. Getting home real late on sun. night discourages a significant number of races as they travel with wives, kids, ect.
The races don't start till 11:00 at Jennings? Ouch. I thought we could get out at 9 am and get done with practice by 9:50 or so. I guess you're right...meeting and stuff takes 1/2 hour or so...earliest would be like 10:30 or 10:45. Maybe I won't stay for the trophies...lol. Race 13 should be about 3:30 or so, I'm guessing. I guess I'll only stay if it's for a win. :D
QuoteHopefully by now you know not to take me too seriously on the BBS boards. ;)
MightyDuc, I think it would be a real shame if this BBS turned into the kind of mud-slinging, name-calling, whinefest that the WERA BBS (often) is. My suggestion would be to not post anything here that you wouldn't say to a large group of people, that you mostly don't know, in person. This isn't your home, this is a public forum with a lot of readers and participants. Many of them won't be able to tell when you're just joking and shouldn't be taken too seriously, smilies or not.
- Stu
Lighten up. I am somewhat serious in the majority of my posts, and I don't ever say anything I wouldn't say to a crowd of strangers. However, most of my posts ARE aimed at people I know in here from being around it for a while. I didn't realize this was a matter of life and death in here and we had to be super serious all the time...my bad. ::)
QuoteThe way it was originally explained to me is that more racers in Florida wanted the Sunday race day schedule than not because they could race all of the classes and not have to miss any work.
This is the explanation I have also heard before. I think Henry himself posted something to that effect last year. I have not run a CCS Florida region race before, but from what I've seen and heard, Henry runs a tight ship and the format is his response to input from the Florida region racers.
I think Henry is to be highly commended for all that.
However, I personally prefer the SE region format and that's one of the reasons why I live in Florida, but run the SE region schedule. I want to race all weekend, not just on Sunday.
And I don't really understand the logic of the people who "want" all the races on Sunday. It looks like a dog in the manger scenario to me. "If I can't race on Saturday, I don't want anybody else too, either." It's not like those guys would likely have less races they could enter, if the format were SE-style.
If the format were run SE-style, then the GT races would be on Saturday. Okay, so the guys who only come for Sunday don't get to run the GT races. Come on, how many of those ARE there, really? MightyDuc, do you really not show up until Saturday night? That would make one. And with GT races on Saturday, does that mean the Sunday-only guys have less races they can run in on Sunday? I don't know. It seems to me that if the GT races were moved to Saturday, then the Sunday schedule could then accomodate Am. Unlimited GP and Amateur Sportbike, which the SE region runs, and FL region does not. So for me, anyway, I would still run the same number of races on Sunday, but I'd also have a chance to run at least 2 races on Saturday also. And they would be nice long races, instead of 7 lap sprints.
As far as "value" goes, it seems to be a wash, to me. On an SE weekend, I would ride or race all day Saturday and Sunday, run 6 races, and pay $365 (for the particular classes I run). On the FL region weekend next week, I'll ride or race all day Saturday and Sunday. Probably get more actual track time, but much less actual racing, and my total cost is $275. It seems to be a fair trade-off. I just, personally, would rather pay more and run more actual races. Like Rick said, if I just want track time, I can pay $100 per day and run Open Practice all day, just about any time I want.
As I said, I think Henry is doing a great job of providing what his customers want. I just wish his customers would realize that it's a no-lose situation to run the weekend format like the rest of CCS does, and let him know that they would be okay with that format. At least, that's how it seems to me.
- Stu
I do show up Saturday morning for the weekends, or Friday night at Jennings. But in the SE setup, how much practice would I get that way? Being a new racer, I need all the practice I can get on a race weekend. I was thinking of going to Roebling in June since Homestead was cancelled, but can I really learn a track with 2 practice sessions Saturday morning? I can't afford to take off Fridays from work so I can get a day of practice, nor can I afford to run track days all the time between races, so I have to hope to practice and race the same weekend most of the time, that's all. Again, I would not be totally opposed to the SE format, especially cuz of the longer GT races, but the FL schedule works just fine for me the way it is. Are you gonna be at Jennings? Be sure to come say hello if you are. I'll be there Friday afternoon with a red Durango and white enclosed trailer with F&S Racing on the side. AM #944...see ya there!
Hey duck, I read your posts all the time, there fine, not sure what stu is taking about. The whole idea of these sites are to express your opinion. Henrys open to suggestions and if you ask him, he will tell you why he does things the way he does. It would be nice to have two days of racing spread out so the weekend would be more relaxed. What a number of florida guys do is pick some s.e. stuff and mix it in with the florida region. What I'm finding is people will skip there least favorite regional track and replace the date with something outside the area i.e. robeling, v.i.r. or barber.
Barber...<rubs hands together with an evil grin>...can't wait to go race there! Probably next year due to money and time constraints, but oh yes, I WILL race there! :)
This post is for: Richard, Monkey and Funk. I will not waste one more moment here to answer questions from these clearly uninformed riders about the CCS Florida Series. Your remarks about shortened races due to red flags and other ridiculous statements point out your ignorance of the facts. I can only assume all of you are probably related to "Baghdad Bob". Your words carry about as much validity. ;D
HD
QuoteThis post is for: Richard, Monkey and Funk. I will not waste one more moment here to answer questions from these clearly uninformed riders about the CCS Florida Series. Your remarks about shortened races due to red flags and other ridiculous statements point out your ignorance of the facts. I can only assume all of you are probably related to "Baghdad Bob". Your words carry about as much validity. ;D HD
Henry, that is fine. I was actually asking the CCS people, perhaps I should qualify, the ones in TX. I was not asking you to defend etc your position with the FL region. You do what you want to do in FL. No one argues that. I want to know if it is possible for us to switch up the home field advantage. Simple as that.
Please explain how my ignorance of the facts is pointed out by my mentioning shortened races at the end of the day due to red flags earlier in the day. Are you saying it doesn't happen?
:)
If anything, its the other way around. I race fl region and henry goes out of his way to run full races. Last time we ran moroso they red flagged a race twice and still ran the full race, it was raining, hardly anyone was there and the race could have/should have been shorted. the race was run in full, i think that one race took about an hour. Not trying to defend anyone but thats really the way it is. Reguardless if you like the florida format or not, the one thing florida racers will tell you is henry puts the racers best interest first.
Henry is the MAN! :)
QuoteThis post is for: Richard, Monkey and Funk. I will not waste one more moment here to answer questions from these clearly uninformed riders about the CCS Florida Series. Your remarks about shortened races due to red flags and other ridiculous statements point out your ignorance of the facts. I can only assume all of you are probably related to "Baghdad Bob". Your words carry about as much validity. ;D
HD
Dearest Henry,
I raced 'your' (CCS's??) Florida region from October 1994 until ~1997 -- I would guess that I'm qualified to comment on it. I'm just another Florida racer that decided that I didn't like the format or tracks that comprised the FL region, so I took my $$$ to a region that better suited me.
So, that being said -- what 'facts' am I ignorant of (exactly)?
If JenningsGP wasn't on the SE schedule for this year, and I didn't need to attend for points, you can be damn sure that you wouldn't see my a s s (or my a s s' $$$$) anywhere near a FL region round.
As far as being compared to Baghdad Bob -- ;D or no ;D -- I'd appreciate it if you'd keep the personal attacks to yourself. (Notice, I DIDN'T put a smiley at the end of that sentence. And no, I'm not going to 'lighten up'.)
R
Well, Well, Well.
The FL region is the only one in the whole damn country that runs it that way (their way). Why don't they just start their own sanctioning body and leave CCS out of it? $$$?
rpsez - your the man
HD - boob
Oh yeh, did I tell anyone?
My butt itches and my finger stinks ;D ;D ;D
QuoteWell, Well, Well.
The FL region is the only one in the whole damn country that runs it that way (their way). Why don't they just start their own sanctioning body and leave CCS out of it? $$$?
rpsez - your the man
HD - boob
Oh yeh, did I tell anyone?
My butt itches and my finger stinks ;D ;D ;D
I'm with Trey on this one... if it is going to be a "CCS" weekend let it be just that...why change it to suit only a few people when the rest of the sanction runs a different way...in that case let FL have the races they want the way they want on any other weekend that SE is somewhere else... This weekend..if it was not for my team mate and it being his first race i would not go... i have to drive down to only get to race 2 races and even then not have a chance to win my money back...come on...there is no reason why FL region can't pay AM in UL GP everywhere else does....
Guys, cant' you figure out why the southeast does weekends with the florida region?. Because they can't carry all the dates by themselves. Don't get me wrong, I would love the standard ccs format but thats not the way it is. Reality is that without the FL/SE combined weekends, the southeast would be short a few races a year.
on Apr 21st, 2003, 11:28am, hdpromos wrote:The practice on Friday is run by Jennings GP. We offer all day practice on Saturday. There are three groups that rotate all day. You will get 6 to 8 rounds of practice (last month they got 7) for $75. On Sunday we run all races including GT's and all are 7 lap sprints. The cost is $50. per class. You have until Tuesday April 29th to pre-enter and must be sent to me not CCS in TX. No credit cards accepted and checks will be deposited the day after the races. I hope this answers your questions. If you have any more please contact me at your convenience. Or ask the questions here as others would like to know.
HD
Hey guys let's have a math leason here.
Ok Henry gets $75 for every practice rider on Sat.
let's say that there are 50 riders for practice.
75x50=$3750 now where does that money go?
not to mention how much does the region get for every entry?
So I personally think it is a MONEY issue. But that is MY opinion and only an opinion. YMMV
Good luck to all you racers next weekend
now mosserEXccs55
Yeah Henry De-GOUGE, your right of my ignorance. I just love to drive 9 hours to the middle of BFE to race your sh**y `1 day format. Lets see how Ignorant you were last year the last race at Jennings for the combined lightweight supersport/ heavyweight sportsman race, when we the racers were greeted to a half wet track on the back half on the warm up lap. Was there any warning prior to going out, NO!!!! So lets see , lets take a bunch of racers half on slicks and let them come flying around to puddles in the middle of a corner on the sighting lap. Lord knows you cant stop racing due to time constrains of your precious schedule and declare the race wet and allow tire change. You just want to keep moving so you can make your money. This comes down to safety over money. I race because its fun and theres a lot of great people, then you have Old Henry. Excuse my ignorance Oh Omnipotent Race Promoter .....LOL
Anybody still reading this crap? ::)
;D
QuoteAnybody still reading this crap? ::)
;D
As a matter of fact, yes. I'm waiting for Henry to get back with me on the questions that I posted on page 2.
Thanks for asking.
R
QuoteAnybody still reading this crap? ::)
;D
Actually, it seems a good number of people are. Most of them apparently do NOT like the way it is set up. Perhaps an answer to the simple questions is what people are looking for.
Brian Gordon, SE shares weekends FL. SE also shares with MidAltantic. Check the schedules, all regions share weekends with other regions to bring more people to each weekend. This is probably to allow each region to stay smaller in land mass, require less driving for the racers, yet overlap weekends to bring more money and racers. WERA does the same.
You guys ever heard of sarcasm? ::) I think Henry posted back a page or two that he wouldn't be responding any more on this thread. I'd call him if you have any unanswered questions.
QuoteYou guys ever heard of sarcasm? ::) I think Henry posted back a page or two that he wouldn't be responding any more on this thread. I'd call him if you have any unanswered questions.
Scarcasm is the lowest form of wit... and I'll chat with Henry this weekend.
Are you his personal assistant or something? ::)
R
Nope...he's just helped me out a lot since I started and never gotten annoyed with my seemingly endless lines of questions, so I take offense when people give him shit about not caring about the racers. Wake up. :-/
This thread got way to ugly, >:( how about just agreeing to disagree. :-X
NO ;D
Hey mighty Quack, you haven't been around enought to know whats going on so don't stick your nose where it doesn't belong. Henry is a big boy and can fight his own battles.
hahahahahaha...sad, Monkey...sad. ;D
By the way, although I'm new to the road racing game, I've been in or around motorcycle racing since 1979...I guess that means I don't know anything about it. ::)
Being you have been in or around it for 24 years , you should have all the answers then.
Almost like I'm a teenager...I know everything. ;D ;D ;D Can't we all just get along? I hope you change your mind and decide to come race this weekend. The more the merrier in my book. :) Be sure to come say hello if you do decide to come.
Sorry can't make it, Its just too far to drive for 1 day of racing. Come to Roebling in June.
If you only knew how badly I want to come up...money sucks. :( I unfortunately work in a business that was largely affected by the war thing. Starting to pick back up finally, but probably too late to save my savings account in time for that round. I definitely plan to get up there to at least one of your races next season, and will look forward to meeting ya'll at the ROC!
How long of a drive is it for you, out of curiosity. I'm going a little under 6 hours for it. I look at it as a cheap track day and then a kick ass day of racing. :)
And don't forget what a sweet track Jennings is...no cars, remember! ;D
MightyDuc said - And don't forget what a sweet track Jennings is...no cars, remember!
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Amen to that brother :o I wish they would repave Roebling so bad I can't stand it. It is getting to the point now where I think they will have to do it soon.
Is the pavement there really as bad as it looks on your video? :o Looks pretty bad. At first I thought it was bad tape or something, but then I noticed all the lines in the same spot lap after lap. ;D
8-9 hours depending on construction.
Florida kind of sucks as far as traveling goes. It takes me 5.5 hours just to get out of the state. :(
Let me start by saying I have raced in both regions and have traveled just as far as the next guy. Both formats have there pros and cons. Both Henry and CCS corporate do all they can to make sure most are satisfied with their weekend. Henry Being a former racer himself knows too well what this sport is lacking and that is spectators. He asks our opinions of changes to the schedules and so on all to increase the appeal to the fans who come to watch his events. I agree, I too sometimes would like a 30 minute race but to split racing into two days is harder to get fans or even potential rider sponsors to come out. On Sunday it is more than just race day it is a show for the spectators. As the rider that also makes you feel more like a pro and not just a club racer which is why he chooses not to pay "Ametuers" and only Experts. Infact back in the day you had to be an Expert to ride anything more than a 750cc bike. In my 6 years racing I can only remember one time Henry shortened races he will not do it unless absolutely necessary. What he does do at EVERY race is recognize the achievment of the top five places in each race at the end of every weekend. Starting with the podium of the Expert Unlimited GP or as we call it the "Shootout". Just like the pros do it with bottles of champaign and interviews of the top three. Which is awesome for the riders as well as the spectators. That is alot more fun than picking up your award at the Tech Shed in other regions. So you see it is not all bad here in sunny FL. But if you don't like FL races or just don't like Henry you can stay home the money he won't get from you he will get from all the people that come to watch us. See ya at the track.
DMC#15EX
QuoteLet me start by saying I have raced in both regions and have traveled just as far as the next guy. Both formats have there pros and cons. Both Henry and CCS corporate do all they can to make sure most are satisfied with their weekend. Henry Being a former racer himself knows too well what this sport is lacking and that is spectators. He asks our opinions of changes to the schedules and so on all to increase the appeal to the fans who come to watch his events. I agree, I too sometimes would like a 30 minute race but to split racing into two days is harder to get fans or even potential rider sponsors to come out. On Sunday it is more than just race day it is a show for the spectators. As the rider that also makes you feel more like a pro and not just a club racer which is why he chooses not to pay "Ametuers" and only Experts. Infact back in the day you had to be an Expert to ride anything more than a 750cc bike. In my 6 years racing I can only remember one time Henry shortened races he will not do it unless absolutely necessary. What he does do at EVERY race is recognize the achievment of the top five places in each race at the end of every weekend. Starting with the podium of the Expert Unlimited GP or as we call it the "Shootout". Just like the pros do it with bottles of champaign and interviews of the top three. Which is awesome for the riders as well as the spectators. That is alot more fun than picking up your award at the Tech Shed in other regions. So you see it is not all bad here in sunny FL. But if you don't like FL races or just don't like Henry you can stay home the money he won't get from you he will get from all the people that come to watch us. See ya at the track.
DMC#15EX
absolutly.. the fans come to watch. This is a big part of the reason we are there. I also really like the podium thing. Im familiar with the "picking up your trophy at the shed" from when i was racing dirt bikes. no recognition at all. Maybe its my ego but i am sure im not alone when i say i too really like getting up there and getting recognized for a race well ran.
Do other racing organizations do this????
The track at Roebling is not that bad, these guys saying it needs repaving are a bunch of whinners. ;D
Robeling is in similar condition to moroso, both need repaving. Rumor has it that robeling will be shut down for a few mos next summer for repaving
I sure hope that rumor is true. It seems to me (not that I'm an expert in running a track or paving) that you would repave during the winter months when the track is less occupied or rented out.
I agree that the only problem with Savannah is in the wet. Other than that the track is fine.
When they do repave it next year, that means we all are going to have to start running 1:14's to win races. Yikes!
Moroso seemed to have lots of traction everywhere but in turn 2 where they stage the drag cars for the drags all the time. I also hear that's the low point where the water tends to collect in the rain, so there's never any rubber left there. I was slip-sliding every time through there...lol.