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Title: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: The Speedy Carrot on August 30, 2010, 07:18:39 AM
Another deer darted out on the track during my race on Sunday, narrowly missing me and another racer. This happened right after turn 1. I was watching it running along side the track when it decided to hang a right and shoot right in front of us. One of the reasons I got off the street was to avoid dangers like animals crossing paths. I can imagine outcome would not be good if I tagged a deer @ 100+.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: KillerCam on August 30, 2010, 09:47:38 AM
Glad you did not hit it. We were told in the Team challenge about the deer but it was a little late at that point.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: bel-biv on August 30, 2010, 10:17:32 AM
I would like to thank the corner-worker at the top of the chute during the Team Challenge race.  On about lap 6 or 7, I came railing out of T3 and as I approached the crest of the hill, I saw the corner worker jumping up and down in the tower, waiving both arms and the debris flag like he was on fire.  I rolled out of the gas and saw 3 deer bounding across the track in-between the crest of the hill and the T4 - right where the WERA racer hit one earlier this year - Not 50 feet from me.

Had the corner worker not have done such a great job in getting my attention, I'm not sure I would have hit one of them or not, but it is reassuring to know that the MARRC crew is there and looking out for us.

I'm not sure anything can be "done" about the deer.  Maybe an organized hunt or something.  But the fact that apple orchards and farm land surround the track means that the forest rats will always be around in relatively large numbers.

I don't put much faith in the track management to do anything resembling an effective solution.  Considering they had unknown personnel operating under unknown guidance took it upon themselves to put sealer down in T5 and T6 an hour before practice was supposed to start on Sunday, I wouldn't be surprised if they scheduled an organized hunt to coincide with a race event.
But thats another thread....

Thanks Chute Corner-worker!!

Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2010, 01:00:24 PM
So instead of blaming race orgs or track owners, blame the wildlife.  How dare they!  I mean, can't they understand the simple danger of being in that area?!?!

Seriously...  Provide a WORKABLE solution.  Go on, I dare ya!
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: bel-biv on August 30, 2010, 01:08:34 PM
I'm with you, Jeff - I don't think there is one and I love to race at Summit.
That said, I've seen more deer this year than ever before and it is an un-nerving experience.
Everyone jokes about it, but every racer that heads to the grid at Summit Point has to factor deer into their mental race preparation. 
Its just a huge variable with potentially life-taking proportions.
And still, I'm not sure that there is anything that can really be done about it - its just kind of fucked up.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Noidly1 on August 30, 2010, 01:23:31 PM
Mount guns on the bikes.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2010, 01:48:50 PM
agreed it's unnerving, but for deer especially there's little to nothing that can be done.  I've encountered deer, turkeys, geese, squirrels, chipmunks and a turtle while racing.  Thing is, the race tracks are generally out in the middle of nowhere, kinda like where the wildlife is...
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: spyderchick on August 30, 2010, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Jeff on August 30, 2010, 01:48:50 PM
agreed it's unnerving, but for deer especially there's little to nothing that can be done.  I've encountered deer, turkeys, geese, squirrels, chipmunks and a turtle while racing.  Thing is, the race tracks are generally out in the middle of nowhere, kinda like where the wildlife is...

They don't tend to show up at municipal meetings to complain about noise, either. <wink>
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on August 30, 2010, 01:55:32 PM
Outfit the corner workers with 50 cal sniper rifles!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: The Speedy Carrot on August 30, 2010, 01:57:24 PM
An organized hunt doesn't sound like a bad idea.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: spyderchick on August 30, 2010, 02:23:53 PM
Hunting Regs for WV, Summit is in Jefferson County. http://www.wvdnr.gov/Hunting/Regs1011/Deer_Season.pdf
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: MotoHick on August 30, 2010, 03:06:36 PM
Jeff, I've got an easy solution. Kill them with rifles/shotguns during hunting season. 30-06, 30-30, shotgun w/slugs - take your pick. Free up one or two weekends during the hunting season (no racing, no Gov't training). Permit a few licensed hunters to knock a few of these bastards down.

Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: GODZiLLA on August 30, 2010, 03:19:42 PM
The deer was running along side the outside of the exit of turn 1/ turn 2 entry.

I remember saying a little prayer of,
"don't come on the track, don't come on the track, don't come on track"

stupid fuck came on the track. i WOT and missed him by maybe 5-10 feet.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: SVbadguy on August 30, 2010, 03:30:47 PM
Most of the deer cross from inside to outside.   In the morning line up two dozen racers from the pits to T9 and do a "FOD walk" towards T3-T5 and chase them out.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: The Speedy Carrot on August 30, 2010, 04:20:34 PM

The deer was running along side the outside of the exit of turn 1/ turn 2 entry.

I remember saying a little prayer of,
"don't come on the track, don't come on the track, don't come on track"

stupid fuck came on the track. i WOT and missed him by maybe 5-10 feet.

Race 13, right?

I was right behind you when it crossed your path.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Rick Johnson 29 on August 30, 2010, 04:53:16 PM
Man that track has character. Which is not always a good thing but it's a place to race.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Noidly1 on August 30, 2010, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: SVbadguy on August 30, 2010, 03:30:47 PM
Most of the deer cross from inside to outside.   In the morning line up two dozen racers from the pits to T9 and do a "FOD walk" towards T3-T5 and chase them out.
Actually not a bad idea...
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Ducmarc on August 30, 2010, 05:51:56 PM
how about a big fence   we could have a deer fence action fund  i allready mentioned  the sat. deer hunt and barbecue. don't think you can dog hunt deer in WVA but there are hunters with bear dogs   contact them for help. plus farmers get 10 times the damage stamps than we got. maybe they would not  mind culling them if they  were allowed to hunt on the track property. might be their dogs chasing them to the track out of spite.  that's the way it was when i lived in Grandview WVA
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Cowboy 6 on August 30, 2010, 06:21:09 PM
Quote from: Jeff on August 30, 2010, 01:00:24 PM
So instead of blaming race orgs or track owners, blame the wildlife.  How dare they!  I mean, can't they understand the simple danger of being in that area?!?!

Seriously...  Provide a WORKABLE solution.  Go on, I dare ya!

Yeah, maybe they should put up signs so the deer know where and when it's safe to cross.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: vnvbandit on August 30, 2010, 06:36:41 PM
Quote from: Jeff on August 30, 2010, 01:48:50 PM
agreed it's unnerving, but for deer especially there's little to nothing that can be done.  I've encountered deer, turkeys, geese, squirrels, chipmunks and a turtle while racing.  Thing is, the race tracks are generally out in the middle of nowhere, kinda like where the wildlife is...

All they have to do is MOVE the DEER CROSSING SIGN down the road a piece! ;-)
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: bjordan1109 on August 30, 2010, 06:55:59 PM
i was right behind you guys as well, there was about 4 or 5 of us in a tight group when that happened.. its amazing that we all made it through.. thats enough to mess with your concentration for the rest of the race... between that damn deer and those stupid effin cones bein knocked all over the place, we had plenty of distractions to deal with


Quote from: The Speedy Carrot on August 30, 2010, 07:18:39 AM
Another deer darted out on the track during my race on Sunday, narrowly missing me and another racer. This happened right after turn 1. I was watching it running along side the track when it decided to hang a right and shoot right in front of us. One of the reasons I got off the street was to avoid dangers like animals crossing paths. I can imagine outcome would not be good if I tagged a deer @ 100+.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Gixxerblade on August 30, 2010, 07:27:08 PM
Quote from: MotoHick on August 30, 2010, 03:06:36 PM
Jeff, I've got an easy solution. Kill them with rifles/shotguns during hunting season. 30-06, 30-30, shotgun w/slugs - take your pick. Free up one or two weekends during the hunting season (no racing, no Gov't training). Permit a few licensed hunters to knock a few of these bastards down.


I heart Brett. You crack me up.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on August 31, 2010, 01:40:19 AM
Quote from: GSXR RACER MIKE on August 30, 2010, 01:55:32 PM
Outfit the corner workers with 50 cal sniper rifles!  :thumb:

They wont let me bring mine out. :biggrin:

Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Burt Munro on August 31, 2010, 04:36:24 AM
Quote from: Woofentino Pugrossi on August 31, 2010, 01:40:19 AM
They wont let me bring mine out. :biggrin:


I wonder why............
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: GODZiLLA on August 31, 2010, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: The Speedy Carrot on August 30, 2010, 04:20:34 PM
The deer was running along side the outside of the exit of turn 1/ turn 2 entry.

I remember saying a little prayer of,
"don't come on the track, don't come on the track, don't come on track"

stupid fuck came on the track. i WOT and missed him by maybe 5-10 feet.

Race 13, right?

I was right behind you when it crossed your path.


yep, that was me.
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Ducmarc on August 31, 2010, 10:05:18 PM
that's it corner worker tree stands  have a sign up sheet for volunteer shooters  blow your motor in practice go man the the tree stand and take out your frustrations, might have to put some plate on them encase there's a cross fire  . wonder if coyote tapes would run them off
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: JCP636 on September 01, 2010, 12:09:22 PM
Actually godzilla I was right behind you and speedy carrot I was in front of you. Blue white and green 636 #188. Godzilla the deer started running on the track when you passed and he ran RIGHT in front of me. You went to the right of him and I went to the left of him. Pretty crazy...
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: Kuala76 on September 01, 2010, 03:20:20 PM
Quote from: bel-biv on August 30, 2010, 10:17:32 AM
I would like to thank the corner-worker at the top of the chute during the Team Challenge race. 

That was Bob! ! He told me about that! His heart was probably beating as fast as yours was!
Title: Re: Something REEEAALLY needs to be done about the deer @ Summit
Post by: bel-biv on September 01, 2010, 03:30:12 PM
Tell Bob that I'm buying him a beer the next time I see him.
Will he be working at VIR?