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QuoteScooters, schmooters. They'll be back again this summer, won't they? I've got something to show the guy who backed into my bike while waiting to go out onto the hot pit. I do a good enough job rashing my bodywork on my own - don't need any extra help!
When did that happen? Got the bike number?
Lets see, 500 CCS racers vs 20 scooter girls. YOu do the math. ;D ;D
let's kick some scooter a$$ baby! ::) ;D 8)
hehehe, wow i'm in a good mood ;-)
-jen
(thnx n8!)
Esp if they're leaving the place messy!
Jen, see what happens when you get out of that house for a while? :-*
not only is it due to my gettin out of the house, it's also all that hangin around with those bikers that ride those darn "two wheeled death rockets" (god my dad is dumb >:()... ::) ::) ::) ;D
-jen
Quotebikers that ride those darn "two wheeled death rockets" (god my dad is dumb >:()... ::) ::) ::) ;D
-jen
Unfortunately I have seen and heard of too many kids killing themselves in cars. Get a group of them together in a car, a little speed and no experience.
Too many deaths, another four were killed in Fond Du Lac just last week. :'(
Dawn
the funny thing is... i am a pretty good driver(ask nate). i dont do anything dumb and i never do more than 5mph over the posted speed, i dont drink and drive (ugghh alchohol. >:().... but my dad, he's a HORRIBLE driver and he drinks and drives,yet he's got the nerve to tell me that i would kill myself on a motorcycle...... and he at one time thought about getting one of those "two wheel death rockets" (well, actually, it was a harley, but he is too dumb to make the distinction between a sportbike and a harley... they're all "death rockets" to him)... >:(
-jen
Jen:
I'm glad to hear that you understand the value of careful driving. Keep it up and if you are with a person that you don't feel comfortable with, have them pull over, get out, and call someone to pick you up. I had to do that once as a teenager and I was glad I did (it surprised my mom and dad too ;D).
Any vehicle or road is dangerous, your parents... well, they are just trying to keep you safe. I have been in your shoes and now I am a parent with a daughter that is heading into her teenage years. :o
It is a very hard pill to swollow at this time, but keep telling yourself, "this is only temporary." You will grow, graduate, move out of the house, take the MSF course, drive up to your parents house and show them how enjoyable motorcycling is. I did that and now both my mother and father have Harley's! LOL!!! They put on more cycle miles that I do!
Dawn ;D
Dawn, the GDL has helped things. Teens can't have more than one other person in the car for the first 9 months of their license, and the temps HAS to be a full 6 months, with 5 times the driving hours required. It's better, but not enough. But, it's helping.
As far as Jen's parents trying to keep her safe: That's true, but it's REALLY hypocritical when they drive drunk on a semi-regular basis. "Oh, I'm still a good driver when I'm drunk." :o
I mean, even her younger sisters think there's NO problem with her parents driving around drunk, even after their uncle got busted last year as he left Jen's parents' house. It's just sad.
I can understand the parental point of view, but her parents never cease to amaze me, my family, (including my grandparents, who are parents of 5) and our friends with their unreasonable, irrational demands, drinking, thinking (or lack thereof) and spending habits.. (not saying that not letting her ride is irrational --- that I can totally understand)
So, what she's saying is not just normal teen frustration, many people in my family are frustrated, and/or disapproving of her parents.
Dawn, also, that's what I've been tellin' her --- Once she's 18 and moves out, she can take the MSF, etc. ;D
Well Jen, parental point of view here, parents remember what they were like as kids, and I'll bet dollars to donuts their parents (your grandparents) would have had a fit if they had known the stuff your folks were doing at the time. You're a sensible girl and you understand that what makes a machine dangerous is who is riding or driving it, their skill level and their focus on the task at hand. Machines are tools, including "death rockets". But it's cool, turn 18, do MSF, get a tight bike, have it painted with skulls and flames, and put a "Death Rocket" sticker on the tank. ;D
QuoteUnfortunately I have seen and heard of too many kids killing themselves in cars. Get a group of them together in a car, a little speed and no experience.
Too many deaths, another four were killed in Fond Du Lac just last week. :'(
As Nate said, they (government) are limiting the number of teens in a car. I don't think that is a very good idea. With the law in place, we have fewer teens in a car, but more cars with teen drivers on the road. If 4 teens want to go someplace, now they are in 2 cars instead of 1. When I was young (yes cars did exist) there was more trouble if there were multiple cars than one car. It will be interesting to see if the law has any affect, I don't think it will.
QuoteIt will be interesting to see if the law has any affect, I don't think it will.
I think the law has been in effect for a few years now, maybe, I can't remember. I haven't seen any reduction, or perhaps I am just sensative to it being in the insurance industry.
Dawn :-/
QuoteMachines are tools, including "death rockets". But it's cool, turn 18, do MSF, get a tight bike, have it painted with skulls and flames, and put a "Death Rocket" sticker on the tank. ;D
LOL!!!
Alexa, I love it! Too funny!
Dawn ;D
QuoteAs Nate said, they (government) are limiting the number of teens in a car. I don't think that is a very good idea.
Actually, it is a good idea. When Rhiannon was learning how to drive, we had a Mazda 323 wagon, and a 1980 Rx7 (2 seater). Looking at statistics, more teens were killed or injured when there were groups of kids in a vehicle. They goofed around and got distracted. She drove from 15 1/2 to 16 on her probationary license. This means Roger or myself had to accompany her. 6 solid months of supervised driving almost every day. Then, we gave her the keys to the...Rx7. She could only have one friend in the car, as opposed to up to 5 friends in the wagon. At the time people told me I was nuts to give her a "sports car" to drive. The girl down the street got the keys to a spanky brand new topaz. Totalled it inside of 2 months, with 3 kids in the car with her. No one was seriously hurt. I think that the decision to give Rhiannon a car she couldn't stuff full of people made her a better driver. Now she races motorcycles. ;D Go figure.
The problem with those statistics is that they did not have the alternative to compare to - fewer teens per car but multiple cars traveling together. From my experience they are both trouble but multiple cars is more trouble. I think it is a bad idea because the alternative is worse - more teens driving, potentially in groups, can anyone say race? This is my opinion based upon my experience - ever have a passenger transfer between cars with both are moving?
LOL, "Big Brother" Rob!
We have told Renee that she can drive the truck (single cab) or believe it or not...
.... I suggested that we should get her a little 250 Ninja especially "with the limited parking at the high school."
All the while I am thinking, I know how she rides her dirt bike, small cc bike, she'll be OK. The truck - a limited number of people can fit in the front of the truck, and the deisel really starts to labor if you get it over 75.
Dawn
Brian, if you had a teen in the house you would know. Those kids are just bad news. Right Jen??? ;D No, actually Brian, you have a point. But the new law requires a bit more driving under supervised conditions, so I hope that will help. Also, when Rhiannon was in HS, she did alot of the driving because some teens did not have access to a vehicle, I would imagine that has changed as well. Want to really get off on a tangent? Retesting drivers (written and road) every 10 years starting at age 50. I could pass, but how many other people could? Might cut down on some more accidents. Oooooo. Flame away. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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.... I suggested that we should get her a little 250 Ninja especially "with the limited parking at the high school."
We have a 250 ninja we might give to Roger's niece. Yeah...let's fill the streets with teen aged girls on bikes!!!!!
QuoteWant to really get off on a tangent? Retesting drivers (written and road) every 10 years starting at age 50. I could pass, but how many other people could? Might cut down on some more accidents. Oooooo. Flame away. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
No flames here. I agree and I will be willing to take a test right along with them.
Dawn :)
QuoteBrian, if you had a teen in the house you would know. Those kids are just bad news. Right Jen??? ;D No, actually Brian, you have a point. But the new law requires a bit more driving under supervised conditions, so I hope that will help. Also, when Rhiannon was in HS, she did alot of the driving because some teens did not have access to a vehicle, I would imagine that has changed as well. Want to really get off on a tangent? Retesting drivers (written and road) every 10 years starting at age 50. I could pass, but how many other people could? Might cut down on some more accidents. Oooooo. Flame away. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I lived with a kid growing up in a house (my sister's kid, mother's house). I do not object to the part of the law you describe above. I wonder if law makers really thought about the possible alternate scenarios to limiting the number of teens in a car. Personally I think over the age of 60 you should be tested every 2 years and after 70 every year. Driving is not a right, it is a priveledge. Teens are the highest accident group, followed by older drivers (at least the last time I checked). Older people have much more political clout (AARP). Funny how being re-elected is more important than public safety.
QuoteFunny how being re-elected is more important than public safety.
Yeah, ha ha. Hmm, I don't know about the every two years bit, maybe every 5 after 60 and then 2 over 70. But I think we do need to get some laws in place regarding aging drivers. It would also ease the burden on family members worried about their aging relatives driving when they know they ought not to, but are powerless to stop them. Ok folks, I gotta get some work done or there will be naked racers at RA next week. ;)
QuoteWe have a 250 ninja we might give to Roger's niece. Yeah...let's fill the streets with teen aged girls on bikes!!!!!
YYESSSS!!!!!! the world needs more girls to kick all those guys' a$$es at the track!!!! 8)
sorry guys, hate to tell you this, but women will rule the world AND the racetrack one day... muahahahahahaha ;D
-jen
Jen ,we already rule the world, they just don't know it, yet. ;D ;D ;D
Well maybe the driving age should be upped to 18 like most other countries. Make drivers ed a year long course they can start at 17.
Then full retests (written and road) every 5 yrs from 18-43
every 4 yrs from 43-51
every 3 yrs from 52-59
every 2 yrs from 60-70
every year from 71-80
every 6 months 81+
And way off tangent here, make it illegal for someone to get handicap plates on a 4X4 95 Dakota that is lifted 12" with 44" tires. ::) Some fool in town has one of these trucks with handicap plates. Rocker panel is over 3' off teh ground. If he can CLIMB into that, he inst handicap.
QuoteWell maybe the driving age should be upped to 18 like most other countries. Make drivers ed a year long course they can start at 17.
Then full retests (written and road) every 5 yrs from 18-43
every 4 yrs from 43-51
every 3 yrs from 52-59
every 2 yrs from 60-70
every year from 71-80
every 6 months 81+
And way off tangent here, make it illegal for someone to get handicap plates on a 4X4 95 Dakota that is lifted 12" with 44" tires. ::) Some fool in town has one of these trucks with handicap plates. Rocker panel is over 3' off teh ground. If he can CLIMB into that, he inst handicap.
hey rob can you get a pic of that dakota next time you see it, i gotta see that! :o