What pad works the best.
EBC prolite rotors- HH pads
EBC prolite rotors- Kit pads
Stock rotors- HH pads
What about Versah sintered metal pads with EBC prolite rotors or will they work better with stock rotors. They are on a gsxr 600
That's like asking what's the best hair color. You will get many different opinions. For example, Paul uses the EBC - HH pads with the stock rotors and loves them. Others say to throw them the the lake.
Dawn ;)
for the first time in a long time ,i have entered a turn at speed grab a few down shifts and grabed a hand full of breaks....to find out that i had to get off the brekes and give the bike more gas to get through the turn.to me, Vesrah pads have the the most hard core stopping power out there! not only that they last twice as long. but.. that's just me :o :o
Welcome to the board Dave.
Dawn ;)
thank you ;D ;D
Yes, I used Vesrah pads for the first time at the BHF race weekend and they were the best pad I have ever used.
I also used the new Vesrah rotors and the combination of Vesrah pads and rotors were the best braking power ever. I also found myself over braking in some turns.
Ps. The Vesrah rotors work with any pad and are worth
the cost $360.00 a set.
Ps. Yes, I sell the Vesrah pads and rotor now, but only
because I have now used them and beleive that
they are the best on the market.
Brian Baker
Baker Race Gear/Midwest Axxion Center ;D
oyster
Slinger ;D
Remember my Buell has only one rotor. Stock HH pads fade after 4-5 laps, EBC pads on a stock rotor are better, but EBC prolites with EBC pads work all the way through. But it gets expensive, the rotors shrink. Replacement is necessary after the silver buttons get tight. I stuck the buttons on a drill and filed them down till the rotor wouldn't fit on the carrier any more. Not recommended, I'm just cheap.
QuoteThat's like asking what's the best hair color. You will get many different opinions. For example, Paul uses the EBC - HH pads with the stock rotors and loves them. Others say to throw them the the lake.
Dawn ;)
Throw those EBC pads in the lake! That was me who said that, after I actually threw a set in the lake at Gingerman. Vesrah. Why run less than the best? They don't even cost more!
I ran the Ebc brake pads last year.This year I swiched to the Vesrah pad, I have also come to the problem that my old brake markers are no longer any good. Last year it did'nt seem like I was ever going to stop, this year I hit the same brake markers and found that I wasnt to the turn yet and like what was said already had to give some throtle input to get to that corner .Vesrah is the way to go in my humble opion!
Stock pads work pretty well. Always used them until I got something new. I have never had great consistent luck with the EBC's.
After years of racing my hands and arms are kind of trashed. I need brakes that are reasonably easy to pull that will actually slow down the bike consistently. I think that DP pads are really pretty good, but the Vesrah's do absolutely rock.
Next, the Vesrah's rock even more because you just put them in and go. In the age of "no practice for you money", we don't have time to waste trying to bed in a set of pads.
I'm curious about the Vesrah rotors. Cost might be the trick for me.
Vesrah, Vesrah, Vesrah!
QuoteWhat about Versah sintered metal pads with EBC prolite rotors or will they work better with stock rotors. They are on a gsxr 600
Better make sure that the Vesrah pads would not hurt the EBC rotors too if you try it. Those pads might be to agressive for the material on the rotor.
i have a new set of EBC rotors that i had buy in a pinch this spring at Daytona,and i have the vesrah pads on them so far every thing is cool...i've used them at Daytona Jennings and B H F.
Don't any of you people have job? ;D ;D
QuoteDon't any of you people have job? ;D ;D
Is the pot calling the kettle black? ???
;D
Oh oh wait! I am the moderator here. This is my job!
Dawn ;D
I had EBC Pro-lites on my GSX-R last year and have used all of the pads that you have asked about.
1) EBC Pro-lites & EBC HH - K3 is right, throw them in the lake.
2) EBC Pro-lites & EBC Kit pads - I ruined a set of Pro-lites with these pads. EBC says that this combination should not be used.
3) Vesrah (RJLs?) - These pads flat-out ROCK. I can't believe how much better they are. Unbelievable.
Baker, you suck. How did you get your hands on a set of the Vesrah rotors already? Safety First will be jealous when they hear about that.
Ferodo/Brake tech full floater cast irons and the Ferodo CP 911 * pads are night and day better than stock stainless rotors and EBC HH! The feedback from the castirons and organic pads gives you infinitly more info when trail braking. I have both setups...one on each of my two identical bikes, and switching between the two can really raise your schincter tone! ;D
My RC51 has the EBC Pro-Lites with the stock honda pads and I love the overall grip./feel of the bike. My brother has fought with his Gixxer 600 for a long time int eh braking department and still has yet to find something he likes. He has used stock rotors with CP911 pads and stock rotors with Galfer pads with the same results. He bought Galfer Wave rotors and still has the fade issue to contend with. Where can he get Vesrah pads to see if that fixes the fade issue (which is really his only problem).
For Vesrah pads and rotors
414-916-9559
Baker ;D
I have also tried the CP 911* pads on my Pro-lites. In my opinion, they were better than the EBCs, but they wear ALOT faster. Still, they are no match for the Vesrahs. The Vesrah pads are awesome.
Performance Friction 95 compound w/ stock rotors is what I use and like them a lot, but i have never tried Vesrah....so...baker, hook me up and i will let you know what i think.
Steve
You guy's and girls should try Bakers breaks and his suspension together, it will be a new day at the track for you!! ;)
QuotePerformance Friction 95 compound w/ stock rotors is what I use and like them a lot, but i have never tried Vesrah....so...baker, hook me up and i will let you know what i think.
Steve
You're such a wh0re...
QuoteYou guy's and girls should try Bakers breaks and his suspension together, it will be a new day at the track for you!! ;)
Wait, but I can get ahead of you guys on a new bike with no time on HYPERPRO stuff.... And I am really, really old now too.
Ya, if we make a mistake, 95hp stock GSXR 600 motor tuned way to rich at BHF still did very well. Yes, some of us still have stock motors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hypersomething is not even close to Traxxion and yes it will shine as the season continues.
Baker ;D
we need Dawn!! the mediator
QuoteYa, if we make a mistake, 95hp stock GSXR 600 motor tuned way to rich at BHF still did very well. Yes, some of us still have stock motors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hypersomething is not even close to Traxxion and yes it will shine as the season continues.
Baker ;D
Right, but the motor doesn't make the machine go fast.
Be careful when you belittle someone else's product.
This is going off topic, Brian.
Now, don't respond. This will turn into a can of worms.
Quotewe need Dawn!! the mediator
Sorry, I'm just the flag person. Competition is both on the track and on the board. However, I am not afraid to throw the 'meatball' flag if needed. ;D
Dawn :)
In fact this is one of my all time favorite threads - http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=ccs1;action=display;num=1049126847;start=0
Dawn :)
Yes, I agree. The track and the board, but I guess some people don't like that. I guess I was just makin fun of some info. I got from the horses mouth. And for the Hyperpro suspension, Dave I think you need to lighten up. No one just makes a shock and sells it, Hyperpro now makes a shock and some people will like it and some will not. I think it is a good shock that will be improved over the years like all other. I would not hesitate to provide this product trackside.
Ps. Dave I think you missed the ;D after the name
Baker ;D
Brian, I just got off the phone with you for the TLR pads. This things better make me fast! :) <g>
Yes, the brake pads will give you an extra 10hp. Ha,
Baker ;D
How do I know if I have stock rotors on a Duc...anybody??? I use the EBC HH pads, and this bike stops unbelievably well. Gotta find out what kind of rotors I have. I think they are the stock Brembos.
QuoteIn fact this is one of my all time favorite threads - http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=ccs1;action=display;num=1049126847;start=0
Dawn :)
LOL!
good god .........i better ring in here!!!
ebben, remember when i asked you at bakers trailer
"what is Vesrah?" you said " are you kidding?"
am i stupid? are these Vesrah brake pads really
that much better? everyone chime in here if you all agree... even P.J. said to me... we need to get you some Vesrah pads. i for one have never paid too
much attention to things like brake markers or
blue flags ;D(whole other thread) but if it will afford me 75 more feet of stuffage then i'm all for it. just
don't tell Ike about em ;) or my secret turbo switch
for that matter.
hey you fargen bastage be nice to your balls and you will together have a long and happy life together!
Benj.
OYSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, Benji, they are really good.
I like to have a set of brakes that I can pull that does not require a lot of lever effort. I want to concentrate on what I am doing, but I do want to slow the bike down.
The Vesrah pads have a really confident feel to them, and the lever pressure is just very nice.
They do not require any bed in. Put them in and go. Kind of a life saver if your pads are shot and you need to put something in.
The are really consistent. They don't last forever, but they do last a reasonable amount of time.
You ever put different pads in the Subaru? Performance Frictions or anything?
not on the bru, but we had 4-pot brembo's with slotted rotors on the Neons. night and day difference
but then again we achieved the same effect going
to steel braided lines as well. cars tend to heat up a little more than do the bikes i'm affraid. shoot, the
subaru never had to slow down...4 weel drift...oh..oh
yeah baby!!! rally, rally.
i would like to reduce the
fatigue i experience in my forearm tho. So on to Vesrah for me. just slap em in eh? lets do it.
Benj. ;D
I have ProLite rotors on a GSX-R600. Which Vesrah pads would be recommended for that?
Vesrah RJL- Race
Baker
Will vesrah pads work with stock rotors on my SV?
Thanks for info. I intend to give them a whirl. If I go flying off the seat and over the front tire at Turn 1 in a couple weeks.....it's your guys' fault! ;D
QuoteWill vesrah pads work with stock rotors on my SV?
Yes, Tom, they will. I use stock rotors. They are fine.
I wasn't so sure that the RJL's weren't so agressive that they would hurt aftermarket rotors like the Pro-Lite EBC's. Brian, you sure on that?
QuoteYes, Tom, they will. I use stock rotors. They are fine.
So, Dave, can you hook me up with a full set for this weekend? If not, where do you get them from?
No, I cannot.
Kevin Hanson (Safety First Racing) or Brian Baker (Baker Race Gear) should have some.
Or Marshall Distributing...
QuoteYes, Tom, they will. I use stock rotors. They are fine.
I wasn't so sure that the RJL's weren't so agressive that they would hurt aftermarket rotors like the Pro-Lite EBC's. Brian, you sure on that?
This is why I threw the "Vesrah with ProLites" question out there a second time... Anyone else with input?
QuoteNo, I cannot.
Kevin Hanson (Safety First Racing) or Brian Baker (Baker Race Gear) should have some.
Or Marshall Distributing...
Thanks, Dave - I'll check them out.
Baker, what type of pads are the Vesrah's - sintered metal, organic or organic/metal mixture? Any need to clean the rotors before running the new pads? I'm ready to toss my EBC's.
Dave
Hawki(cool name btw)
SD says to just slap em in and go, no bed-in either.
you running stock rotors? i will be running the
Vesrahs with stock suzuki rotors(600). i think that
i will probably take it easy for a lap or 2.
my .02
BRG says he will have a few hundred sets,
also, Kevin Hanson sells them too.
Benj.
I'm running stock Kawasaki rotors now. I may want to switch to some full-floating rotors since the stock ones are not.
Dave
I never changed my stock Kaw rotors. They work fine. The caliper has four pistons and they float. If you've got money to get rotors, save it and spend the money on the Kayaba forks and get them worked on or get a nice Hyperpro, Ohlins, or Penske rear shock. The proper suspension with a good geometry set up from someone who knows like http://4and6.com or Traxxion will allow the bike to slow down more efficently.
Super_Dave, I have had the suspension upgraded on the Kawasaki (Traxxion in front and Penske out back). My brakes just don't work as well as I'd like them to. I have six piston calipers in the front also. I cleaned the calipers last year and after a couple of weekends the brakes did not seem to give me the same feel and were dragging again. I have not been able to get to the track this year so I don't have a good feel of the brakes yet. I may just clean the calipers again and slap some different pads in.
Dave
QuoteSuper_Dave, I have had the suspension upgraded on the Kawasaki (Traxxion in front and Penske out back). My brakes just don't work as well as I'd like them to. I have six piston calipers in the front also. I cleaned the calipers last year and after a couple of weekends the brakes did not seem to give me the same feel and were dragging again. I have not been able to get to the track this year so I don't have a good feel of the brakes yet. I may just clean the calipers again and slap some different pads in.
Dave
Dave:
Have you changed your brake fluid? Do you have steel braided lines?
Just some other ideas to help you out.
Dawn :)
I would like to try the vesrah pads this weekend on my r6. Who is selling them?