- limited gate hours (7 - 10pm)
- $47 per person gate fee (!!!!!)
- $60 camping/electric fee
-they were extremely confused when asked about the "hard card" as advertised on the CCS website.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now (first time hosting a club-level event), but I'd say there's significant room for improvement on how things are priced/handled to keep me coming back.
the gate fee is a race entry........that's a swift kick to the gonads
Hell even Road America isnt that steep.
$47/person for a gate fee? I'd just turn around and leave with an one fingered salute out the window. And I though BHF's gate fees were a bit high.
Quote from: MCRacer980 on April 30, 2010, 12:02:03 AM
- limited gate hours (7 - 10pm)
- $47 per person gate fee (!!!!!)
- $60 camping/electric fee
-they were extremely confused when asked about the "hard card" as advertised on the CCS website.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now (first time hosting a club-level event), but I'd say there's significant room for improvement on how things are priced/handled to keep me coming back.
So if you want to race and get electric, you have to pay $107.00?!?!?! I've been trying to get someone on the phone at NJMSP but I keep getting the voice mail.
So now I'm more confused..
A 2 day spectator pass is $27 but we (the show) have to pay $47?? Something is not right.
Back to the phone..
Wow. That's pricey! Come race at Gateway....our gate fee is five bucks.
The price was so high because they needed to pay for 200 security guards to be rude to us all weekend.
$10 tent/trailer camping
$35 electricity
$27 or so for gate pass.
We split electricity among friends and split the cost.
Unfortunately I don't think NJMP had ANY IDEA what to expect from this series at their venue, I think someone must have really given them some inflated information :(. I heard rumors that some folks were told there were going to be ONE THOUSAND SPECTATORS each day... at a club event...??? Was the $47 just racer fees? I thought spectators also had to pay that much?? Either way... it was ridiculous. They had more 'parking attendants' and security than they had corner marshalls out there, and the couple times that I know of that security was actually required (fence jumpers) they NEVER showed on scene. I also know there were some issues with 'local spectators' that were never addressed by security.
I had no issues with anything or any fee's. Rented a garage and room at the standard price and showed up at the gate well after 10pm friday and saturday and never was in any trouble at all... Go figure.
Thought NJMP had their shit together for the most part. They take that place seriously which i prefer over somewhere like summit. NJ is constantly taking care of the track, blowing it, cleaning it, water trucks were out to dampen the dirt so it wouldnt blow onto the track. They respond quickly to crashes.
However my problem is with the CCS officials over the weekend. They did a piss poor job. They called false starts that didn't exist and called it their policy not to fix it, even with video evidence.(2nd place to 27th, so lost contingency and registration fee) There were two white flags in some races, two checkered in others, one restart we were told we had 3 laps remaining and they threw the checkered after 2 laps. They didnt address any of it at the riders meeting.
Was a bit of a cluster. Despite all of that, I had an excellent time. It was GREAT hanging out and meeting so many good people. And i dig Thunderbolt.
I had a good time as well, but man, those grids where packed. Tough track to safely pass on.
I made the mistake of registering early to save a few $$. Gridded on row two. Learned on race one that was a BAD idea for someone with only one race weekend under my belt. Moved to the back for my other races, which was safer, but not that much fun. Seemed like a lot of red flags, especially compared to the NJMP race last year.
I heard there was over 700 entries for this weekend? Can anyone verify that?
Amazing that with all that security, there still where quite a few A-holes flying through the pits. Quite a few unattended kids strolling around too, which I worry about. Just a matter of time I guess.
People got to remember that the State Police have the final word at that facility. If a kid gets seriously hurt, they will shut it down.
The gate fees were tough to swallow - but after sampling both the crash truck service and the medical facility I don't mind as much. The crash truck team was the best I've ever seen at a club race by far (no offense to MARRC, they are just out-manned and out-spent on this one many times over)
Quote from: race712 on May 03, 2010, 06:06:19 PM
The gate fees were tough to swallow - but after sampling both the crash truck service and the medical facility I don't mind as much. The crash truck team was the best I've ever seen at a club race by far (no offense to MARRC, they are just out-manned and out-spent on this one many times over)
Actually half the crew out there were MARRC members including those running cornerworker control. How is having to wait until the end of a race to pick up bikes all over the track better? Having a scanner to know what's going on, I'm far more aware of what is going on. There was a whole lot of waiting at the hot pit gate due to waiting for bikes to be cleared. In two of my races we ended up waiting 10 minutes to start our warmup lap after getting the final call.
travis -
are you talking about the crash truck or the corner workers? I know some of the cornerworkers were MARRC - I did not recognize any of the crash truck workers as MARRC and believe they were all track employees.
When they arrived to pick up my bike 2 or 3 folks jumped out the truck like they were working a NASCAR pit stop and had the bike loaded (yes, with the help of MARRC cornerworker) and rolled in what seemed like 30 seconds or less.
The whole bit about not rolling truck or emergency vehicle while bikes are on track helps contribute to those long waits (and I was right there with you for at least one of them). Oh - that and the little fact that CCS is making third call for race 2 when they know there are still bikes and people to pick up after race 1 might have a something to do with it too.
Quote from: race712 on May 03, 2010, 06:38:27 PM
travis -
are you talking about the crash truck or the corner workers? I know some of the cornerworkers were MARRC - I did not recognize any of the crash truck workers as MARRC and believe they were all track employees.
When they arrived to pick up my bike 2 or 3 folks jumped out the truck like they were working a NASCAR pit stop and had the bike loaded (yes, with the help of MARRC cornerworker) and rolled in what seemed like 30 seconds or less.
Yes they are NJMP employees running the 'crash trucks' and yes overall they were very helpful and got there as quickly as possible (once the track was cold). I had a couple EV guys come over to me in the tower at the end of the day. They said that they really wanted to thank the 'outsiders' who were out there picking up bikes. They said they were amazed at the knowledge of handling bikes and the amount of effort the 'outsiders' put into helping to load the bikes and/or get them to appropriate places for pick up. They said they are used to 'picking them up where they lay' with no assistance at all and that our 'methods' really saved a lot of time and effort for all involved.
Our 'crash truck' at Summit is typically run by a MARRC worker, sometimes one doing a double duty! It sure would be great to have a few trucks staffed JUST to pick up bikes!