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Racing Discussion => Rules and Regs => Topic started by: Dori Ninja on April 08, 2010, 04:17:57 PM

Title: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Dori Ninja on April 08, 2010, 04:17:57 PM
hey guys, so i happened to get sponsored by a local paint shop called Creative Custom Airbrush, and they did an AWESOME job on my bike...but with the disign we kinda had some nice details in the number plate areas...i was wondering if i could get by with using white numbers with no background instead of doing the white background and black numbers??? i would of course make them nice and bold enough to be easily seen , which to my knowlage is really the main point here...but just wanted to post up...was gunna try it out bring both background decals w/ black numbers and the white numbers, head to tech early with the white numbers on and if they say no just change it quick and go back...but figured id utalize the forums as well to see.....

if it make any differance i am in the mid-west region....

pic of the upper for referance:
(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi19.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb174%2FDoriNinja%2F23992_10150160225855268_573070267_1.jpg&hash=a9b2fad94a5aa2d2a3f9c89eaf897082c294b782)
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Jason748 on April 08, 2010, 05:47:40 PM
I'd bet they're going to make you have the white background with the black numbers...
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: 123user on April 08, 2010, 06:13:15 PM
The rulebook clearly states the size, font, and color of acceptable numbers.  Its important to your safety that you comply with the standard.  It also makes the job of our cornerworkers and scoring much more difficult if you don't comply.  If your bike doesn't comply to the technical standards as specified in the rulebook don't go to tech.   You'll end up in a pissing match with the inspector, and wasting everyones time that is staged behind you in line.
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Burt Munro on April 09, 2010, 12:23:15 AM
Quote from: 123user on April 08, 2010, 06:13:15 PM
   You'll end up in a pissing match with the inspector, and wasting everyones time that is staged behind you in line.
Thank you.  :thumb:   I wish more people would realize the impact on others when they decide to 'just see if it will fly.'   

Kind of like when people bring their bike to Tech and the bellypan is still completely attached..... with screws....... put on with an air wrench....... and Loctite.   :kicknuts:

Sometimes I've gotten in the habit of 'subtly' making sure everyone in the back of the line are aware why things aren't moving faster.  This is especially effective when people are standing in the rain to get their bike Tech'd.

Very nice paintjob.   :thumb:   I bet it would do well in a custom bike show.    :cheers:

As far as the white numbers passing Tech.........  do yourself and everybody else a favor  - don't even try it.  You'd have about as much chance leaving with a Tech sticker as if you brought your bike through Tech without an engine.
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Dori Ninja on April 09, 2010, 12:27:02 AM
no if i go im not gunna fight it ill just change it, but i know with rear numbers on some bikes they let u go with one centered on ther rear and numbers on the side....didnt check if it was added yet but i know it wasnt in there and they just asked for you to put the numbers on the farrings on the side! not trying to make my way ok or anything just if i make it so they can be clearly seen and all if it would be a big deal...but ill figure something out!!! :)
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Dori Ninja on April 09, 2010, 12:39:40 AM
yeah id just roll in and ask on those right away if i did do it, they say no ill immediately roll out and fix it, i know they have a job to do and i know there are umpteen million others that have to get through and i hate waiting in line just as much as the next person (maybe even more...im in the military!! HAHAHAHAHA) so that is definitely not my intent but yeah like i said ill see what i can do to hopefully not cover up too much and stay with in the regs....
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Burt Munro on April 09, 2010, 01:14:21 AM
Charles,

Will Blackhawk be your 1st race of the year or are you going to try and make it to Topeka?
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Dori Ninja on April 09, 2010, 02:04:46 AM
Quote from: Burt Munro on April 09, 2010, 01:14:21 AM
Charles,

Will Blackhawk be your 1st race of the year or are you going to try and make it to Topeka?

im gunna try to make it to topeka, but as of yet it is still up in the air...but for sure should be at blackhawk!
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: skiandclimb on April 09, 2010, 04:06:17 AM
Quote from: Burt Munro on April 09, 2010, 12:23:15 AM
 
'subtly'




Rick, you are anything but "subtle".  Bwahahahaha!!!
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Eric Kelcher on April 09, 2010, 08:01:03 AM
Dori, here is a big hint for you "Burt" would be one of your tech inspectors. Black numbers on
white background and not black numbers with white border of each number either. The background should be a regular shape, square, circle, rectangle etc
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: vnvbandit on April 09, 2010, 10:33:14 AM
Quote from: Burt Munro on April 09, 2010, 12:23:15 AM
  You'd have about as much chance leaving with a Tech sticker as if you brought your bike through Tech without an engine.

So, If there is NO engine..................... Do I really  need a belly pan??  :biggrin:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Dori Ninja on April 09, 2010, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: vnvbandit on April 09, 2010, 10:33:14 AM
So, If there is NO engine..................... Do I really  need a belly pan??  :biggrin:

good ? i too am curious... lol
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Burt Munro on April 09, 2010, 02:59:52 PM
Depends on whether the missing engine has the fill, drain and filter safety wired. :biggrin:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Eric Kelcher on April 09, 2010, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: vnvbandit on April 09, 2010, 10:33:14 AM
So, If there is NO engine..................... Do I really  need a belly pan??  :biggrin:

belly pans are required on 4 stroke motorcycles, that would be stroke inducing I can confidently say the bike would not need a belly pan but the operator would require a diaper
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: vnvbandit on April 09, 2010, 07:28:49 PM
Quote from: Eric Kelcher on April 09, 2010, 05:25:49 PM
belly pans are required on 4 stroke motorcycles, that would be stroke inducing I can confidently say the bike would not need a belly pan but the operator would require a diaper
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Dori Ninja on April 10, 2010, 02:57:01 AM
ahhhhahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: skiandclimb on April 12, 2010, 09:27:29 AM
Everyone keeps mentioning "white" background in this thread.  Just wanted to make sure you are of expert status before you go painting on a nice white number plate!

AM = Yellow plate

EX =  White plate

P.S. Eric, did CCS drop the side fairing #'s when running smaller tailsections?  Ayone?
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Noidly1 on April 12, 2010, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: skiandclimb on April 12, 2010, 09:27:29 AM

P.S. Eric, did CCS drop the side fairing #'s when running smaller tailsections?  Ayone?

No. If you only have one # in back, you must run side #'s.
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Jason748 on April 12, 2010, 09:22:18 PM
SORRY GOTTA DO IT.....

SO, What's the proper "yellow" for a background???   :pop:  :pop:  :pop:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: backMARKr on April 12, 2010, 09:35:57 PM
Quote from: Jason748 on April 12, 2010, 09:22:18 PM
SORRY GOTTA DO IT.....

SO, What's the proper "yellow" for a background???   :pop:  :pop:  :pop:

"Hello...my name is Jason and apparently I feel that professional shit disturber Rick is not doing his job very well!!" :biggrin:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Jason748 on April 14, 2010, 10:59:36 PM
 :lmao:   :biggrin:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: vnvbandit on April 15, 2010, 10:12:01 AM
Quote from: Jason748 on April 12, 2010, 09:22:18 PM
SORRY GOTTA DO IT.....

SO, What's the proper "yellow" for a background???   :pop:  :pop:  :pop:

Oh No! Here we go again!    :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Noidly1 on April 15, 2010, 10:23:33 PM
What is the propper white?
Are  ivory, bone or Ford white acceptable?



:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on April 15, 2010, 11:18:45 PM
Quote from: Noidly1 on April 15, 2010, 10:23:33 PM
What is the propper white?
Are  ivory, bone or Ford white acceptable?



:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

GM #50 white is the only white allowed.:biggrin:
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: skiandclimb on April 16, 2010, 06:31:03 PM
Quote from: Noidly1 on April 15, 2010, 10:23:33 PM
What is the propper white?

What is the proper "propper"?  Sorry Noid- couldn't pass it up!
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: Eric Kelcher on April 16, 2010, 11:18:28 PM
Quote from: skiandclimb on April 12, 2010, 09:27:29 AM

P.S. Eric, did CCS drop the side fairing #'s when running smaller tailsections?  Ayone?
yes one number on top of tail is acceptable if traditional side mounted numbers will not fit
5.3.5.B.1
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: daviid on May 03, 2010, 08:13:25 AM
Quote from: Eric Kelcher on April 16, 2010, 11:18:28 PM
yes one number on top of tail is acceptable if traditional side mounted numbers will not fit
5.3.5.B.1

didnt the rule last year state that side #s also had to be painted on the fairings as well?
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: banzai1 on May 16, 2010, 09:30:55 AM
That is too pretty for a racebike. You should just scrap it and paint the whole thing white.
Less anguish WHEN it gets screwed up
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: roadracer162 on May 16, 2010, 01:13:45 PM
Quote from: Jason748 on April 12, 2010, 09:22:18 PM
SORRY GOTTA DO IT.....

SO, What's the proper "yellow" for a background???   :pop:  :pop:  :pop:

The proper color is white.

Mark
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: squirrel22 on May 20, 2010, 10:52:28 AM
if my bike is already yellow do i need to outline the number plates?
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: skiandclimb on May 20, 2010, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: daviid on May 03, 2010, 08:13:25 AM
didnt the rule last year state that side #s also had to be painted on the fairings as well?

Yup. That's what Eric clarified (was my question, too) Apparently one # on the tail, which can be read from standing behind the bike, is sufficient now. No longer do we have to put #'s on the side fairings when running a single plate on the top of the rear.
Title: Re: numbers...how strict is it really??
Post by: tzracer on May 21, 2010, 08:54:17 AM
Quote from: squirrel22 on May 20, 2010, 10:52:28 AM
if my bike is already yellow do i need to outline the number plates?

I have run a white (expert) bike with no outlines around the number plates. Had no problems with tech.