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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: yeahhim on November 01, 2009, 08:50:12 AM

Title: New Guy wants to race 2stroke hybrid
Post by: yeahhim on November 01, 2009, 08:50:12 AM
Hi, want to race in FL region.I am building a hybrid with and R6 frame and RZ350 based big bore(~600cc)motor.Looking for 120HP and #300 wet weight.
I can pull off the build but am concerned about what classes I'd be eligible for and competitive bikewise .I am total noob but RD,RZ,TD,TZ stuff etc back in the late 70s early 80's.
Title: Re: New Guy wants to race 2stroke hybrid
Post by: daviid on November 01, 2009, 10:29:35 AM
6.3 GRAND PRIX - Grand Prix machines are unrestricted in all areas as long as
they meet the standards of Section 5.
6.3.1 Machines not sold by manufacturers via normal commercial channels
may be approved for different displacement classes on an individual
basis. CCS will maintain a list of non-standard approved models and that
list will be available at each event from the Race Director. CCS reserves
the right to re-factor machines at any time. CCS will notify current
licensees 30 days prior to any change. Changes will take effect 30 days
from the original date of notification.
6.3.2 Grand Prix displacement limits are absolute and are set as follows:
125 GRAND PRIX
Two stroke, single cylinder, up to 125cc
Four stroke, single cylinder, up to 250cc
LIGHTWEIGHT GRAND PRIX (Amateur & Expert Divisions)
Single cylinder, Unlimited displacement
Two stroke, liquid cooled, up to 450cc
41
Two stroke, air cooled, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, air cooled, up to 1210cc
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, non-desmodromic valves, up to 800cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 565cc
Four cylinder, air cooled, 2 valve, up to 750cc
NOTE: BMW HP2 machines are excluded from the Lightweight class.
MIDDLEWEIGHT GRAND PRIX (Amateur & Expert Divisions)
Single cylinder, Unlimited displacement
Two stroke, liquid cooled, pre-1985 model year, up to 750cc
Two stroke, liquid cooled, street production models, up to 515cc
Two stroke, air cooled, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, air-cooled, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, 2 or 3 valves per cylinder, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, 4 valve per cylinder, up to 850cc
Three cylinder, up to 1000cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 650cc
Four cylinder, air cooled, 2 valve, up to 1200cc
UNLIMITED GRAND PRIX (Amateur & Expert Divisions)
Unlimited Displacement
Title: Re: New Guy wants to race 2stroke hybrid
Post by: Gixxerblade on November 01, 2009, 11:52:57 AM
Sounds like a nasty beast whatever it is. You must post pics of the build process.
Title: Re: New Guy wants to race 2stroke hybrid
Post by: tug296 on November 02, 2009, 02:09:08 PM
I'd like to see the RZ cylinders at 600 cc.
Title: Re: New Guy wants to race 2stroke hybrid
Post by: Jason748 on November 02, 2009, 02:54:00 PM
I'm guessing they'd looks a lot like this:  http://www.bansheedepot.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TREX7668 (http://www.bansheedepot.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TREX7668)
Especially considering the the RZ & Banshee motors are pretty similar.  I had a 400cc big bore banshee once upon a time... And that thing was beast, I can't imagine what it's be like at 600+cc   :ahhh:
Title: Re: New Guy wants to race 2stroke hybrid
Post by: Jeff on November 02, 2009, 04:50:44 PM
The NSR 500 comes to mind...  Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be.  LOL
Title: Re: New Guy wants to race 2stroke hybrid
Post by: badmonkey on November 02, 2009, 05:29:20 PM
Dynoed a 600 cc Banshee motor on alcohol.....175 hp.... Good luck....
Title: Re: New Guy wants to race 2stroke hybrid
Post by: yeahhim on November 03, 2009, 09:59:35 AM
Just looking for 120 hp on racegas.The Europeans have tons of RG,Aprilia etc.. hybrids with stock RZ and big bores.There are tons of tutorials and pics of the work as well as a outfit in Australia (the two
stroke shop) offering turnkey bikes.

Thanks for the info on classes daviid.