anyone have any info on the Am rider that hit the wall during the unlimited superbike race and was air lifted out? I heard that he was hurt bad and it's not looking good. say a prayer.
on a side note, I'm not making any judgements here but, at that race the grid was more than full and the Am riders were stacked all the way back to the last turn of the track. That's to many riders racing at the same time, especially during a EX / AM split race.
Henry, if your reading this, maybe it should be considered that the EX and Am don't race at the same time. it may draw out the day but the chances of something like this happening again are more than likely to happen again.
Danny
Here's the story on the Jennings forum: http://www.jenningsgp.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18452&sid=7bd6294d04dc69d80667d8bbb7cb1780
I don't think separating Am/Ex is the answer. It's been done for years in many different series.
What I saw when I watched the Am races was that there were four or five riders in the AM GTO/GTU classes that really didn't belong out there racing. They weren't following a discernible line, were off and on the throttle mid-corner, and would change line for no apparent reason.
It's this kind of inexperience that needs to be handled.
Quote from: GregGorman on October 05, 2009, 05:21:01 PM
It's this kind of inexperience that needs to be handled.
Goes back to my thought that if you can ride a big bike fast you should be a white plate. If you can't I can rent you a FZR400 to do your learning.
Mark
OK, maybe your right. splitting the EX and AM is not the answer. Maybe the blame shoud be put on the racing schools that are giving away licenses to anyone that pays for the school.
we all have to start out some time, but...they can't give out racing licenses to just anyone that pays for the school
I felt so bad about this. I was just racing with him in the middleweight race a couple races before. He passed me on the straight and I got back by him on the brakes at the end of the straight the next time around and held him off for another lap til the race was over. On the cool down lap he pulled up next to me to give me a fist bump. It was hard to see someone I was just racing with side by side have to get airlifted away like that...
From looking at past laptimes, Isidro was not one of the riders I noticed.
I would have to side with you an that one Greg. I have raced within the Thunderbike class with Isidro and he can hold his own.
Mark
If anyone noticed, I am Am. all red R6 #452. Constructive advice/criticism is wanted. Anybody have anything to say about my riding out there if they noticed?
Devin,
No worries. If anyone has any complaints or even criticisms you will hear of it directly. I believe you have taken a good approach to this racing stuff by being open to suggestions.
I believe that most racers will allow more room to an Amateur racer when making a pass. In the expert ranks there are closer passes made but typically in a clean fashion. There will be incidental bumping of elbows and less likely bikes.
My suggestion has always been to start with the smaller bikes but you gotta take note that I began riding in 1980 where the GS1100 was king and considered too much bike. Funny thing is the FZR600 that I began racing with in 2003-2004 has more performance than the big Suzuki. Since then I have stuck with racing the lightweight bikes, if you wanna consider the Ducati 748 a lightweight.
Mark
Thanks Mark
Quote from: skidMARK on October 06, 2009, 01:35:54 PM
Devin,
No worries. If anyone has any complaints or even criticisms you will hear of it directly. I believe you have taken a good approach to this racing stuff by being open to suggestions.
I believe that most racers will allow more room to an Amateur racer when making a pass. In the expert ranks there are closer passes made but typically in a clean fashion. There will be incidental bumping of elbows and less likely bikes.
My suggestion has always been to start with the smaller bikes but you gotta take note that I began riding in 1980 where the GS1100 was king and considered too much bike. Funny thing is the FZR600 that I began racing with in 2003-2004 has more performance than the big Suzuki. Since then I have stuck with racing the lightweight bikes, if you wanna consider the Ducati 748 a lightweight.
Mark
Lightweight bikes are a blast!
First off and most importantly, prayers to Isidro and his family.
Maybe it's just the area I live in, but is it common in South Florida for newspapers and TV stations to report on accidents that occur at racetracks??
I was reading the Jennings thread and saw the links posted on the media reports on Isidro's accident. That blew me away that it would make it in the paper or on TV.
I'm not saying it isn't important, just surprised that the media would pick up on it.
Burt,
It has not been a common thing in that county. There was an incident in the recent past regarding a minor that was seriously hurt and that made it to the news. There can be two to three events happening at one time. It almost seems political in some nature.
Thanks, Mark.
I guess that was what I was wondering - if someone had an agenda about the track or motorcycles.
schools are not to blame. they dont issue a licence to a rider that cant get around the track. not much skill is needed, but you have to be able to make a lap without falling down. if it is obvious a rider would be a danger to themslf or others, they wont be granted a licence. it is up to an idividual rider to make the decision to race or not once a licene is granted.
I think the requirements to receive your license should be much more stringent than "can make it around the track without falling". Schools shouldn't have a problem telling someone that they need to do some more trackdays first before it's safe for them to race.
Quote from: FiveOh on October 08, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
I think the requirements to receive your license should be much more stringent than "can make it around the track without falling". Schools shouldn't have a problem telling someone that they need to do some more trackdays first before it's safe for them to race.
never happen. there is no way to objectively say that a "rider is good enough" or "..not good enough" unless very obvious. just doing more trackdays wont help some riders, and you have riders that can get around the track just fine but lack intelligence to do the right thing or jlack common scense to do the right thing in bad situations
. AND.. sometimes issues are created by faster racers overtaking the slower riders.
Anyone know how he's doing?
RIP
http://www.jenningsgp.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18452&p=198438#p198438
Wow, I that's terrible...
RIP...
damn, too many deaths this year. RIP
RIP Isidro.