Since you never came over to apologize, I thought you might like to know that Bobby left the hospital with no broken bones, but some badly bruised ribs, contusions on his forehead and elbows, aggravation of a partially torn labrum and a lot of pain. He was really lucky this time. The staff that saw the crash ran over and told him not to move, expecting the worst based on what they saw.
As I understand it, you were in the Formula 40 race, which was gridded in the first wave in front of Lightweight Superbike. After breaking the crank in his A bike earlier in the day, Bobby was forced to ride the team endurance bike in the Lightweight Superbike race (not even your race). He got the holeshot and lead the entire race. Along the way, he passed a good number of riders from the first wave, including you. I understand that racers in Formula 40 are on 600s and 750s. Bobby was riding a supersport SV650. He passed you on what was probably the second to last lap, but with the power advantage you had, apparently you caught him going down the straight. Bobby turned in for turn 1 as usual, and when he hit the apex, the next thing he knew, there was a bike in front of him. Apparently, you decided to turn it in right across him, basically chopping his front. He then went over the bars and landed hard, tumbling for what he describes as "forever." You didn't go down. There was another racer right behind you when it happened who confirmed Bobby's recollection of the incident.
Somebody from your crew saw my buddy picking up the bike in the tech shed while Bobby was on his way to the hospital in the ambulance. He was apologetic, and asked if there was anything he could do. I assume it's because you told him what had happened. My buddy was busy dealing with the bike and didn't pay much attention, although he should have, because we never found out who you were.
Since you were in Formula 40, we all assumed you would have the maturity to man up and apologize. Bobby is PISSED - but he understands this is racing and hasn't gone on a witch hunt to find you. He also understands that racers get taken out all the time, and this is no different. Despite the injuries, lost races, bike and equipment damage (extensive) and lost contingency, he expected nothing from you but an apology. He is trying to let this go and let karma take care of the rest. I'm not as patient and decided to post this, in hopes that you would see this and find it within yourself to apologize. I think that would mean a lot to Bobby (and his team). Bobby is the kind of guy that is always willing to go out of his way to help out another racer in need. He's very big on the concept of karma. I hope you are, too.
WOW....i was glad to see bobby the next day on his pit bike looking "ok" especially after i saw what was "left" of his SV....hopefully this dude mans up and apoligizes....some one hit bars with me on a wild pass going into turn 7 (luckyly all that happend was my brake lever got pushed forward and i drove into the grass and then back on the track) but i never got a sorry for that one...
Man, tell Bobby I hope heals up fast!
I caught a glimps of two crashes in turn one over my shoulder but I certainly had nothing to do with the crashes.
Was he the one that crashed on the far left or the one that hit the hump to the right.
Bobby is one of the best dudes in the paddock and certainly does not deserve shit like that. I spoke with one of the track officials who watched it happen. I asked him a couple of questions about who hit him based on suspicions I already had. He confirmed my suspicions, but when I talked to Bobby later, his accounts contradicted what the official said. So I let it go. If the rider turns out to be who I initially thought it was, Bobby will never get an apology. Bobby wasn't his first victim, and won't be his last.
If Bobby, or any of you guys, need anything to get ready for this weekend, just ask.
Well I have the race on Vidieo provided my camera worked.
Thanks Dave, much appreciated. ktd, if you have the actual crash on vid, we'd love to see it.
I should have right before it. I say should because that camera works sometimes doesn't sometimes. I really don't remember what was going on just before. I know I had backed off a couple of times at the end to let the Experts get on into the turns. I was doing so bad in the race that day it didn't matter. The crashes from both happend behind me. I did see some of one of them but I thought that guy just over cooked it on the brakes. When I came back around everthing was gone but then I hear noises behind me again and out of the corner of my eye I see some guy rolling. I turned my head because the sounds made me think I was about to get hit. If I played some role I had no idea.
I had the same thing happen to me when a 125 passed me in 5 on my SV. He totally took my front wheel off and I hit the ground hard.
jj, jw, mike and dave - thanks.
ktd - sounds like it might have been you that took me out. i don't think there was another rider close enough to see me rolling out of the corner of his eye. but you're saying that you had no idea. what's strange is that somebody from the crew of the rider that took me out approached my buddy in the tech shed and apologized. curious - what color is your bike?
The advantage of riding the F40 is supposed to be maturity, this is just fun and the bikes and the classes are so mixed up there is not any real excuses for doing a lot of pushing and shoving in the corners. I know sometimes it happens but anyone in this group should be the first to stick their hand out and apologise if you mess up..
I have a Yellow Duc 1098. I don't think anyone from my crew talked to you. We were on the other side of the Paddock and they watched the races from the Bridge. If I had anything to do with it I apologize but I had no idea. I can't wait to get home from work and see if I have the movie. When I saw the person rolling I was up past the turn and had turned my head to the left. I was about to get to the jump area.
Finiancial issues aside, I am just glad you are OK Bobby.
BTW, my wife LOVED the brownie!
Wait a minute, why didn't I get a brownie? :kicknuts:
BTW, it's funny that JohnJ said Bobby believes in karma because he has an impressive BBS karma ratio!
I actually have your race on vid. You were in front of me. I'll post it as soon as I can. I was pretty upset about this and came home to see. I have to get online and work and I will find somewhere to post it as soon as I can.
At Least I know it wasn't me. I was too far back. lol. I started last in the first wave and remember you going by me. I saw it happen but failed to see the bike that caused it. Bobby, glad you are ok.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 11:12:21 AM
I caught a glimps of two crashes in turn one over my shoulder but I certainly had nothing to do with the crashes.
if you had nothing to do with it, why bother posting this?
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 11:42:06 AM
If I played some role I had no idea.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 12:51:31 PM
If I had anything to do with it I apologize but I had no idea.
i'm using every ounce of my being to refrain from saying something that i'll regret. you can stop trying to say you didn't know. i probably either passed you in 7 or the light bulb. you then decided to make a race of it with an expert that wasn't even in your race and on a smaller bike. 1098? no wonder you caught me at the end of the straight. i was in front of you when i turned in for 1. you thought you'd stuff me. we made hard contact but based on bike position, i got catapulted off the bike. you know what you did. don't dig a deeper hole for yourself. karma is a bitch. remember that next time you're out there and thinking about doing something stupid. your stupidity can change somebody's life.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 12:51:31 PM
I don't think anyone from my crew talked to you.
they didn't talk to me. they talked to my teammate. i was in the ambulance.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 11:42:06 AM
I was doing so bad in the race that day it didn't matter.
this one kills me. in any event, it doesn't matter how you were doing in your race. and FYI - i was leading my race by a pretty good margin.
i really didn't want to get into this, but after reading your responses i couldn't hold it in any longer.
Your going to feel really stupid when i post this movie
it uploading now to you tube. im not even editing it will take one hour. enjoy
Holy poddy mouth Batman. I dunno about the rest of you, but I cannot wait to see this vid.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 04:15:42 PM
you smacked right into the guy in front of me. poor guy did nothing. wann talk about dirty passes. i had not realized the cause until this. i wish i had what was done to me on film. i felt so bad i might have done this i cam home from work. f ya. the more i think about this th emore it pisss me off hell look at the pases some of you experts put on me on this .
I have not yet seen this video of yours, but as a safety crew member who has watched Mr. Kim race at both Summit (Main and Shenandoah) and VIR, "dirty pass" and "smacking right into" someone has NEVER been applicable to his riding. Mr. Kim is a careful, albeit fast, rider, with great consistency. He is not the sort to take needless risks, and he is not out for balls or blood, like many riders I have the (dis)pleasure to see race (and often pick up out of the gravel - them, or their "victims").
While I was not at NJMP to see this incident, knowing what I DO know of Mr. Kim, I suggest, sir, that you owe him an apology for casting such nasty aspersions on his riding. Envy the experts all you want, but they have earned their way there. Just because they are more skilled than you doesn't automatically mean they deserve your enmity. If you can't handle riding with the big boys, suggest you stick to "amateur-only" races, or go back to track days. Or maybe join me next year on the LW Femmoto grid.
Oh, my mistake. Femmoto grids behind the ULWSB and F40. Might still be too rough for ya.
Yea well i got 400 points now so I guess that makes me an expert and how do you get off giving me who did nothing grief. I owe nobody an apology my only mistake was being concerned I might have caused somone a problem. Did you even read this post or did you just jump and start posting junk?
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 05:32:29 PM
Yea well i got 400 points now so I guess that makes me an expert and how do you get off giving me who did nothing grief. I owe nobody an apology my only mistake was being concerned I might have caused somone a problem. Did you even read this post or did you just jump and start posting junk?
"Junk"? I am sorry; are my fifty-cent words too big for you to understand?
The suggestion for an apology stems from the fact that you are accusing Mr. Kim of riding in an unsafe manner. I am simply sharing with you my own observations that Mr. Kim is no such rider, and that your accusations, being unfounded, should be retracted and an apology offered in their place.
Please continue your whiny diatribe, and your protestations of innocence. I am sure you are doing your sponsors proud.
what a tool
Quote from: ZXYBCH on July 28, 2009, 05:50:05 PM
"Junk"? I am sorry; are my fifty-cent words too big for you to understand?
The suggestion for an apology stems from the fact that you are accusing Mr. Kim of riding in an unsafe manner. I am simply sharing with you my own observations that Mr. Kim is no such rider, and that your accusations, being unfounded, should be retracted and an apology offered in their place.
Please continue your whiny diatribe, and your protestations of innocence. I am sure you are doing your sponsors proud.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 05:52:24 PM
what a tool
Interesting.
Well, sir, I certainly hope we don't meet in my corner one day, when you have crashed your motorcycle and are in need of the attentions of a safety crew member. While I would NEVER withhold assistance out of spite, I would be interested in how much of a "tool" you think I am when I am busting my ass to get you and your bike out of harm's way.
I'll make sure to introduce myself as "Mrs. Tool."
ok ms tool and exactly what did I do wrong here? did you read this entire thing ? including the below and imagine you had nothing to do with this ?
Quote from: ktd on Today at 10:12:21 AM
I caught a glimps of two crashes in turn one over my shoulder but I certainly had nothing to do with the crashes.
if you had nothing to do with it, why bother posting this?
Quote from: ktd on Today at 10:42:06 AM
If I played some role I had no idea.
Quote from: ktd on Today at 11:51:31 AM
If I had anything to do with it I apologize but I had no idea.
i'm using every ounce of my being to refrain from saying something that i'll regret. you can stop trying to say you didn't know. i probably either passed you in 7 or the light bulb. you then decided to make a race of it with an expert that wasn't even in your race and on a smaller bike. 1098? no wonder you caught me at the end of the straight. i was in front of you when i turned in for 1. you thought you'd stuff me. we made hard contact but based on bike position, i got catapulted off the bike. you know what you did. don't dig a deeper hole for yourself. karma is a bitch. remember that next time you're out there and thinking about doing something stupid. your stupidity can change somebody's life.
Quote from: ktd on Today at 11:51:31 AM
I don't think anyone from my crew talked to you.
they didn't talk to me. they talked to my teammate. i was in the ambulance.
Quote from: ktd on Today at 10:42:06 AM
I was doing so bad in the race that day it didn't matter.
this one kills me. in any event, it doesn't matter how you were doing in your race. and FYI - i was leading my race by a pretty good margin.
i really didn't want to get into this, but after reading your responses i couldn't hold it in any longer.
LOUD NOISES!!!
I have to edit it to 10 mins You tube says.
You need to edit the movie down to less than 10 minutes, YouTube has its limits.
Just the part leading up to and after the crash is all we need to see.
:pop:
I don't get it, how is he being accused of causing the crash if no one knows it was him? You would think that if he stuffed a lightweight bike and caused a crash that he would remember it. Sucks either way but it would be nice to know for sure before getting pissed at him.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 03:16:11 PM
I actually have your race on vid. You were in front of me. I'll post it as soon as I can. I was pretty upset about this and came home to see. I have to get online and work and I will find somewhere to post it as soon as I can.
i read this as you confirming that it was you. i read it as, "yes, you WERE in front of me..." maybe i'm crazy. of course, without confirmation i couldn't be sure it was you, but as i said, i took it as confirmation, perhaps mistakenly so. that's why i quoted your previous posts, because you were saying that if it was you, you didn't know. in any event, if it wasn't you, then it wasn't you. but you aren't doing yourself any favors with your childish posts ( i saw the ones you deleted). i was trying to keep this at least somewhat civil.
You can get away with 10 minutes and 45 seconds on YouTube. :biggrin:
yea you pissed me of pretty good I posted a couple things then deleted right away. nowhere there did I say I did it. nobody did it. you did it. please don't lecture me on keeping it civil. I didn't take it there. all you wanted was an apology right!
Here is the movie I have no idea how long it will take to process.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHMkBGlJ1Sk
And I make one more point you don't have it all here because I had to shorten it. You mocked me about backing off when the lightweights came by. It's obvious I did because I certainly could have gotten back down under the bridge or after. I only did it because I was so bad at that track but I will never do that again. The Irony in this all is I got taken out so terrible and rudly on Sunday. Even the guy behind me ran off. oh and while in 2nd place in a championship I trail by 1 point.
Another "Someone took me out and did not say sorry" thread.
Wow, the dude wasn't anywhere around you. Looks like all KTD did was catch it on video. Unless I missed something.
Glad we are a little more civil here in the midwest. :biggrin:
Glad you are ok though racer 911.
i'm really glad you posted that video. it confirms what i remember, what the rider behind me saw and what a track official saw. you'll see 3 guys pass you before the incident. i was the first one. the guy with the red leathers is the one who saw the whole thing, as he was right behind us when it happened. it was the other guy. i was in front of them and gapped them through the whole back section. he caught me at the end of the straight on my left. i wasn't trying to outbrake him. i didn't even know he was there because he was to my left and i was already looking through the turn. i turned it in, he squared it off and turned right across me. he knew i was there, but tried to make the pass anyway. take a close look. i was at the apex first. dirty pass on my part? yeah right. he was the one trying to make the pass.
Sorry about your crash and glad you're okay. :thumb:
The vid shows a crash at ~1:55 with two riders going into the right hand turn. Rider on the right took a tight inside line and rider on left took a wider, left-to-right sweeping entry. Rider on right got the position, then the rider on the left contacted the other rider's rear wheel after turn in. Is this the same incident? Didn't see a rider cut across another's wheel.
You might be confsuing what I said about my crash on Sunday. I had somone come inside my apex on a 125 and then go wide and take out my front wheel. I didn't post anything about that. This post is about the crash on the vid.
... and I agree with what you see. It's obvious.
Quote from: dsting on July 28, 2009, 08:05:09 PM
Sorry about your crash and glad you're okay. :thumb:
The vid shows a crash at ~1:55 with two riders going into the right hand turn. Rider on the right took a tight inside line and rider on left took a wider, left-to-right sweeping entry. Rider on right got the position, then the rider on the left contacted the other rider's rear wheel after turn in. Is this the same incident? Didn't see a rider cut across another's wheel.
Yes, I was referring to racer911's crash. Was just trying to confirm if what I think I see in the vid you (ktd) posted is as I described and actually of racer911's incident since it doesn't seem to match what he and his friend described.
Regardless, very glad everyone's okay.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 04:15:42 PM
you smacked right into the guy in front of me. poor guy did nothing. wann talk about dirty passes. i had not realized the cause until this. i wish i had what was done to me on film. i felt so bad i might have done this i cam home from work. f ya. the more i think about this th emore it pisss me off hell look at the pases some of you experts put on me on this .
You do realize that Bobby is the rider on the right, right? There is no way Bobby could have known that dude was coming. He was NOT racing Bobby, he overcooked turn one, panicked, and threw it into Bobby, knowing full well Bobby was there. That's the nice version of what may have been going through that guys head. The other possibility is that he was pissed a little bike passed him (even though they were in different races), and decided he was going to get by him at any cost. Fucked up, either way.
And Bobby is one of the cleanest racers I've had the pleasure of racing with.
And btw, I'm really glad it wasn't you, Kyle. And I'm really glad you got it on tape.
Quote from: ktd on July 28, 2009, 06:00:05 PM
ok ms tool and exactly what did I do wrong here?
What you "did wrong" was to NOT read my post carefully enough to "get" my point. I NEVER accused YOU of causing ANYTHING; I said, quote:
Quote from: ZXYBCH on July 28, 2009, 05:23:27 PM
I suggest, sir, that you owe him an apology for casting such nasty aspersions on his riding.
You accused him of a dirty pass, and of smacking into the other rider. The video does not show that.
I've got no dog in this, so please don't flame me. My old eyes must be going bad, 'cause it looks like the rider on the left (wide, sweeping entry) is the one that crashed after impacting the rear wheel of the rider on the right (tight line).
And Kyle, taking shots at corner workers, ESPECIALLY marrc peeps, is really poor form. If you see MARRC in a persons sig line, give 'em some respect. The next life they save could be yours. :thumb:
Quote from: dsting on July 28, 2009, 09:04:06 PM
I've got no dog in this, so please don't flame me. My old eyes must be going bad, 'cause it looks like the rider on the left (wide, sweeping entry) is the one that crashed after impacting the rear wheel of the rider on the right (tight line).
No flaming at all. The guy sweeping in from the left stayed up. Bobby (guy on inside).....not so much.
Well I didn't see the rider on the right go down so I had to assume it was the rider on the left that was Bobby. No? I apologize to Bobby if I made that mistake. It was the guy on the lefts fault no doubt. At any rate there was no reason for his blasting me and even now he isn't man enough to apologize. All I said was I would post the movie up as soon as I could. I was so upset I might have hurt somone because we flew through there and I didn't see the incident just somone sliding to my left..I really thought it happend behind me. I could post up like he did the things that did not make sense in his explanation but I am trying to let it be. You told me he told you it was a yellow bike and I was really afraid something had happend behind me I didn't know about. I was so apologetic just on the thought it could be me and it could be me some day I could make a mistake. You guys like him because he is fast. Well there is more to life. Also everyone is in a race to assume the guys with the faster bikes should back off for you. I mean I feel for ya because I ride an SV too i know what its like. For all that guy knows his competion is right behind him.
As for MS corner worker I'm tempted to file a complaint to MARC on her comments about me crashing in her corner. I didn't read anythign wrong I'm pretty sure. I'll be in her races next year with the ULSB and I wouldn't even joke about such a thing.
I'm done with this. I proved it wasn't me. I only spoke up because I heard he thought it was a yellow bike and I knew I was in the area. My bad for doing that. My apology for loosign my temper when I read his post and that is to everyone. I do wish I had not.
Kyle
Quote from: yetidave on July 28, 2009, 08:57:40 PM
You do realize that Bobby is the rider on the right, right? There is no way Bobby could have known that dude was coming. He was NOT racing Bobby, he overcooked turn one, panicked, and threw it into Bobby, knowing full well Bobby was there. That's the nice version of what may have been going through that guys head. The other possibility is that he was pissed a little bike passed him (even though they were in different races), and decided he was going to get by him at any cost. Fucked up, either way.
And Bobby is one of the cleanest racers I've had the pleasure of racing with.
And btw, I'm really glad it wasn't you, Kyle. And I'm really glad you got it on tape.
The only rider who crashed was the rider on the left so I would have to assume that is Boby and going by his own words he said the same.
Quote from: yetidave on July 28, 2009, 08:57:40 PM
You do realize that Bobby is the rider on the right, right? There is no way Bobby could have known that dude was coming. He was NOT racing Bobby, he overcooked turn one, panicked, and threw it into Bobby, knowing full well Bobby was there. That's the nice version of what may have been going through that guys head. The other possibility is that he was pissed a little bike passed him (even though they were in different races), and decided he was going to get by him at any cost. Fucked up, either way.
And Bobby is one of the cleanest racers I've had the pleasure of racing with.
And btw, I'm really glad it wasn't you, Kyle. And I'm really glad you got it on tape.
The video I just watched showed the rider on the outside going down, not the inside bike.
I won't judge who is at fault as I wasn't on either bike at the time.
I have raced with KTD on many occasions and he is one of the nicest guys I have met both on and off the track. I think he has received a completely unjustified load of crap from both Mr. Kim and the female cornerworker. He had absolutely nothing to do with this incident and was just trying to provide a video and was attacked by both of you.
Sorry to you Mr. Kim that you went down, glad you are not injured more severely.
You might want to watch it again, the inside rider went down.
What I don't get is if the slower bike was in front, why would he be beginning his turn in the center of the track? It seems like if you thought you were alone you'd be on the outside of the track on corner entry.
I'm not saying you stuffed him because you started out in front of him but that video makes it look like the inside rider's fault. But the point is that he shouldn't be racing with someone who is clearly faster than him, if someone is in another class and is going to pull away from you anyway, why would you try to screw around with him?
yeah best i can tell on my 22" screen is old guy A gets taken out by old guy B. i think i've said this before if there was one thing to cause me to start smoking it would be F40 there's like every class they could not fit somewhere else is stuffed into F40 beaten and banging around no eyesight no reflexes no patiance. they did cut close up on the camera bike though otherwise looked like a regular trackday. good to see everyone is physically ok but we might need a lecture from chaplain 220
yes, i was the bike on the right. in that turn, i always turn in from the middle of the track, because you don't need to set up all the way to the left, at least on a lightweight bike, and leave the inside wide open.
kyle - as i said, i misunderstood your post and thought you were telling me that it was you. it's clear that it was not you. i apologize for that and appreciate you posting up the video to show what really happened. i'm sure we will see each other at the track and i will apologize properly for the case of mistaken identity.
as for the cornerworker, i know her well and she did not imply that she would give you any less assistance than anyone else. i think she was just suggesting that you should appreciate the hard work they put in before getting into it with any one of them. and she's pregnant. her hormones are raging.
Does anyone know what the color of the offending bike is?
I ask cuz in that same race, I had someone almost take out 2 of us who were coming up on him pretty fast entering the light bulb. To me, the guy appeared to be having a mechanical cuz he was all the way on the inside, looking over his shoulder and going real slow. Just as we were approaching this guy up and decides to slide over to the middle of lane almost taking out the guy's (in front of me) rear wheel with his front and leaving me with practically nowhere to go but trying to squeeze between the two of them.....we definitely touched but it could have been just my knee hitting his....I dont know. I do know I was very pissed off since something that stupid happened on one of the faster parts of the track.
Kyle, people don't like Bobby because he's fast. There are plenty of fast guys who get no respect because they're assholes. People like Bobby because he's the definition of a stand up dude. Spend 5 minutes with him at the next race and you'll understand what I'm talking about. He's easy to find, he's the little asian dude who always has a smile and a handshake for anyone who approaches him. And his wife is impossibly hot. 8)
Seriously, dude. It ain't about who's faster than who. No one cares. This is about right and wrong, pure and simple. And if it were you who were taken out like that, you'd get the same support.
thanks, dave :thumb: i really appreciate the support.
btw, i'm not that little. where i come from, i'm a giant :biggrin:
just read this thread. Bob, I'm glad (again) that you are okay. ktd, thanks for putting up the video.
I've been racing against and with BK for a few years now. He's one of the people I trust most while on the track. Off the track he has never told me "no" when it came to a spare part, a hot meal or a cold beer. This org and racing in general needs more people like him.
Quote from: racer911 on July 29, 2009, 10:08:26 AM
btw, i'm not that little. where i come from, i'm a giant :biggrin:
lol, valid point.
Glad to see this ended on a good note. :kissy:
we still don't know who the kamikaze is.
Holy shit!! I only just found out about this. Bobby I hope you're ok bro.
You probably don't want to relive this, but if you can pm me a few details (date and the race number etc) I'll see if we can get you nominated for some cash from the MARRC Injured Members Fund (IMF). Heal up and let me know if theres anything I can do to help.
hope you are ok and glad you didnt break anything were you up in the front of the formula forty field and was it a blue r6 by anychance that may of wrecked you
simon - i really appreciate that. let's save that money for a more seriously injured rider in the future.
fed - i was in lightweight superbike in the 2nd wave. the results aren't up, so i really don't know how far into the 1st wave i got. in terms of the bike, it happened really fast, but i think i remember that it was a lighter-colored bike. the track official seemed to think the bike was white. to be honest it could've been blue for all i know. why do you ask?
because my dad has a blue r 6 and came in fourth in the race and he was racing with rick beggs idt it was him because i rember watching under the bridge and the red flag came out and he came back he was mad because he was going to try and pass him on the last lap but then the red flag came out and the race ended also i dont think you could have caught up to the top four in formula forty because they were all running 109 easily so i dont think that you would have been able to catch them even though youre a great rider and you tear up the lightweight but you think it was a 1098 there was a guy 254 but he was in 2nd battling with fania so i dont think it was him
i have no idea what kind of bike it was. yeah, i'm sure i didn't get that deep into the 1st wave. i appreciate the heads up, though.
well if they ever come out with the results you might be able to see who it was anyways good luck and see you at summit and feel better
Quote from: racer911 on July 29, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
let's save that money for a more seriously injured rider in the future.
Fair enough and to be honest, it's what I expected you to say. You're a good dude Bobby. Hope you feel better soon.
Quote from: fed585 on July 29, 2009, 11:56:11 AM
hope you are ok and glad you didnt break anything were you up in the front of the formula forty field and was it a blue r6 by anychance that may of wrecked you
It was not your dad since I was to the left of the yellow 1098 when that crash happened and your dad was long gone.
FWIW, that race reminded me of an AM 600 meatgrinder class. Lots of stupid passes and way to much bs for a F40 race (IMO).
hope you get better soon and your bikes. That is a scary turn 1 to go down there,and not the place to make many tight passes at.