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Title: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Grashopr on May 15, 2009, 04:06:41 PM
Anyone see their contingency show up on the XTRM website?  Round 2 is just around the corner, and I am hoping that the contingency shows up in time to be able to suppliment the tire budget for next weekends races.  I've never qualified for contingency before, so maybe I did something wrong?  I had Michelin listed on my sponsor sheet, got checked off at tech-in, had he minimum entries to qualify, placed high enough to qualify, and I put my placements up on the XTRM website, where it said that they were being sent to Ron Wood.  I see on Ron's news that they are paying out Michelin contingencies from a bunch of other CCS and ASRA rounds, but I haven't seen anything for HPT Round 1. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: benprobst on May 15, 2009, 06:02:55 PM
Quote from: Grashopr on May 15, 2009, 04:06:41 PM
Anyone see their contingency show up on the XTRM website?  Round 2 is just around the corner, and I am hoping that the contingency shows up in time to be able to suppliment the tire budget for next weekends races.  I've never qualified for contingency before, so maybe I did something wrong?  I had Michelin listed on my sponsor sheet, got checked off at tech-in, had he minimum entries to qualify, placed high enough to qualify, and I put my placements up on the XTRM website, where it said that they were being sent to Ron Wood.  I see on Ron's news that they are paying out Michelin contingencies from a bunch of other CCS and ASRA rounds, but I haven't seen anything for HPT Round 1. Any ideas?

did you sign up with Michelin (bibmen) and XTRM?
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Grashopr on May 15, 2009, 06:29:14 PM
I checked Bibmen.com and it says that

1. Competitors must register and purchase tires from Authorized Team Michelin race tire distributor or associate.   Check
2.Competitors must list Michelin as a sponsor  Check
3. Display minimum 12" Michelin decal on both fairings,Mr Bib decal on both sides front fender  Check
4.Michelin patch on leathers  Didn't have the patches available before that race, but was cleared by CCS.. Check
5. Must run Michelin on front and rear to be eligible for Team Michelin Dollars.  Check, Check
7.Each class must start a minimum of 10 riders for contingency dollars to be paid 1st- 5th, 6 riders to pay 1st -3rd.   And Check
(MINIMUM 6 riders to earn contingency).
6. Register online with XTRM to receive the automated payment on the www.xtrm.com/michelin 24/7 access to your account    Check


I registered on XTRM and put down Michelin as a sponsor, but it still shows them as an 'unofficial' sponsor.  I turned in my finishes on XTRM, and it said that they were sent to Ron Wood, but haven't seen anything from it so far, and it's been a few weeks now.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Eric Kelcher on May 15, 2009, 06:30:03 PM
With regard to HPT the results had issues and when those were sorted I was able to then process contingency, which was done last Thursday. Due to this slower than normal results processing and a death in my family this week, contingency processing of NHMS, Road America, PBIR and FIR was delayed but all races to date should be processed by Tuesday. We should be back on track next week to results and contingency processing the Wed following the event.

In general the first awards from a company take longer (4-6 weeks), some the first ever, some the first for the calender year, then they speed up to 2-4 weeks after an event once you are in their system. If you have not received contingency money in a timely fashion then I can research it to verify all steps were met and nothing fell thru the cracks either by our office or paperwork that was not completed.

Here are links to various forms

Contingency requirements and awards
http://ccsracing.us/forms/2009/contingency/2009%20asra%20ccs%20contingency%20awards.pdf

Dates for CCS sponsors that have only select dates for contingency
http://ccsracing.us/forms/2009/contingency/ccs%20selected%20contingency%20schedule%203-12-09.pdf

Dates for ASRA sponsors that have only select dates for contingency
http://ccsracing.us/forms/2009/contingency/asra%20pro%20selected%20contingency%20schedule%203-12-09.pdf

Contingency status request form, if you have not received awards in a timely fashion
http://ccsracing.us/forms/2009/contingency/contingency%20status%20form.pdf
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: R1Racer99 on May 15, 2009, 06:39:02 PM
Just making sure but you don't have to do anything after the races do you? I thought that the results would go to XTRM automatically.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Team_Serpent on May 18, 2009, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: Grashopr on May 15, 2009, 04:06:41 PM
Anyone see their contingency show up on the XTRM website?  Round 2 is just around the corner, and I am hoping that the contingency shows up in time to be able to suppliment the tire budget for next weekends races.  I've never qualified for contingency before, so maybe I did something wrong?  I had Michelin listed on my sponsor sheet, got checked off at tech-in, had he minimum entries to qualify, placed high enough to qualify, and I put my placements up on the XTRM website, where it said that they were being sent to Ron Wood.  I see on Ron's news that they are paying out Michelin contingencies from a bunch of other CCS and ASRA rounds, but I haven't seen anything for HPT Round 1. Any ideas?

Sounds like you did everthing right except waiting until your hair is grey to get your pay out :)

All kidding aside, some pay faster than others and some have adopted new systems/services to speed processing.  One thing seems to be constant - it never comes fast enough :)
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: benprobst on May 18, 2009, 05:22:02 PM
Quote from: Team_Serpent on May 18, 2009, 02:55:42 PM
Sounds like you did everthing right except waiting until your hair is grey to get your pay out :)

All kidding aside, some pay faster than others and some have adopted new systems/services to speed processing.  One thing seems to be constant - it never comes fast enough :)


Except with Michelin. Ive had money in my account before getting home from race weekends before. The new system flat rocks.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Team_Serpent on May 19, 2009, 09:52:06 AM
Quote from: benprobst on May 18, 2009, 05:22:02 PM
Except with Michelin. Ive had money in my account before getting home from race weekends before. The new system flat rocks.

I was kidding, see the smiley faces and reference to "All kidding aside"?

I said "some pay faster than others and some have adopted new systems/services to speed processing."

Were you responding directly to me/my post?  Or just quoting me to give others reading the thread useful information?
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Super Dave on May 19, 2009, 09:56:18 AM
The Easter Bunny hates you... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn8ztwVSAPc)
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: vnvbandit on May 19, 2009, 11:35:30 AM
Eric, sorry to hear about your loss. Prayers to you and your family.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: c147go on May 19, 2009, 01:29:25 PM
This is my first time collecting contingency also. I should have some coming from RA and haven't seen any yet. I'm in the same situation as you, checking the XTRM account and balance still says zero deniro. A good friend of mine who collects regularly says it is a very sllloooowwwww process. It would be nice to have the cash for tires at Blackhawk. Maybe it takes longer because it's a new account? I left a message for Tom Mason just to get some questions answered and he hasn't gotten back to me. I'm not sure he has anything to do with the process but thought he might have more info on it. I guess just wait it out but it makes you feel as if you are missing something or didn't register properly.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Eric Kelcher on May 19, 2009, 03:04:06 PM
Thanks Brian

The vendors in general cannot answer contingency questions regarding reporting.
I process all the info and forward to the respective companies so unless they sent you an awrd they cannot tell you why you would not have been on an awards report.

IE if you have a question about payouts, or status or anything regarding contingency I would be your first contact.

Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: R6Chick on May 22, 2009, 05:26:35 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only new winner having the same problems. Its really exciting to finish and realize you qualified to get paid for racing!!  but then its been a month and see nothing. I've done all the same as listed above so maybe it is just first time delay b/c I know other Michelin riders that say they pay quickly.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: R1Racer99 on May 22, 2009, 10:47:48 PM
Got mine a couple days ago.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: steve p on May 25, 2009, 08:01:12 AM
in 07  i had over twenty 1st and 2nd place finishes.  All my shit was filled out correct, forms, registered, blah blah blah, got my card.  Never got anything.  In fact the only contingency I got all season was from Vesrah.  They did a great job with their program.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Sobottka on May 25, 2009, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: steve p on May 25, 2009, 08:01:12 AM
...i had over twenty 1st and 2nd place finishes. 
track days dont count!  :kicknuts:  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: R1Racer99 on May 25, 2009, 07:14:21 PM
Quote from: steve p on May 25, 2009, 08:01:12 AM
in 07  i had over twenty 1st and 2nd place finishes. 

And you're still an amateur?

That's quite a bit of money, I would have looked for some answers if that happened to me.
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: wfomotorsports on May 25, 2009, 08:50:40 PM
I have yet to see any contingency money either after 3 podiums at Road A :wah:
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: steve p on May 25, 2009, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: Sobottka on May 25, 2009, 02:48:26 PM
track days dont count!  :kicknuts:  :biggrin:

WOW, just because I bust on your custom tire rack you gotta go there, its just not right.
Quote from: R1Racer99 on May 25, 2009, 07:14:21 PM
And you're still an amateur?

That's quite a bit of money, I would have looked for some answers if that happened to me.

Too lazy to update my info.
I tried for a brief time to get it resolved and turned into a mess.  No one new anything, you know like trying to get through an automated phone system when you need to talk to a real person.  In all fairness, Tom Mason was the only person willing to help me and I just don't have the kind of time to go through the whole season, get the results to him and then wait a year for someone to figure it out then tell me sorry you would of had to use it last year, no longer valid, sorry, oh were sorry.
Hell, Suomy couldn't even find my name, I said look in the f****ng results.

Contingency = huge waste of time for me, sorry, oh did I say sorry, were sorry.  
Title: Re: Michelin Contingency from HPT April 24/25
Post by: Eric Kelcher on May 28, 2009, 11:03:17 AM
Quote from: steve p on May 25, 2009, 08:01:12 AM
in 07  i had over twenty 1st and 2nd place finishes.  All my shit was filled out correct, forms, registered, blah blah blah, got my card.  Never got anything.  In fact the only contingency I got all season was from Vesrah.  They did a great job with their program.

Steve,

I hate hearing things like this.
I went and looked through reports for several races and there were several thousands of dollars for a Steve Palelle sent to various sponsors, none for a Steve Palella, if we had been notified of the spelling error or a contingency status check was sent in then this could have been corrected.