That's the conclusion I have come to, how could you not have AMA racing on TV, on a race weekend. Either Speed is screwin the pooch or DMG has it all screwed up! This is some frustrating shit. If only I was a NASCAR fan I would be in heaven. Speed really really sucks this year. It sucks worse every year!
I feel a little better now.
Remember Two Wheeled Tuesdays? Yeah, they replaced that wiht a bunch of crap.
You are correct though- NASCAR fanatics probably jiz when the station comes on. Good grief....left, left, left, left, left AARRRRGGGHHH!!!!!!
Come on guys, pool together your money, make your own network, and put AMA races on live for free to the AMA and other motorcycle racing programs. :biggrin:
I think its the DMG not speed. besides most of the AMA races on tv the last few that i watched sucked anyway. idiots for anouncers who you would have never guessed they even rode motorcycles let alone knew anything about racing. they showed the same top bikes the whole show. and if a factory guy crashed or didnt finish well they mentioned him and showed him. only mentioned one or two priveteers the whole season.
same thing with that shitty magizinge road racing world they would talk about the top few then jump all the way to the back to talk about the factory fags who didnt finish the race and skip the priviteers.
Races will now be shown on SPEED every Saturday night with a 1-3 week delay from when the event actually happened, the new show is called 'AMA Pro Prime Time'. Ironically tonight (3/21/2009) is the 1st night of that new schedule and according to the info I'm seeing on Directv they will be playing the Sportbike and Supersport races from Daytona.
DMG was indeed responsible for the change because so many people were complaining about the randomness of when the races were being shown on SPEED and the inconsistency of which classes, I read somewhere that they are going to show the same classes from every event. DMG was also able to secure the same time slot every week for (I believe) 22 weeks straight on SPEED so people could set their DVR's to record the programs at the same time every week if they weren't available to watch (coverage should always start at 11pm EST). The only variation I remember in the programing schedule will be the amount of races shown per week, for example this week is only 1 hour long but some weeks will be 2 or 3 hours long.
Who the hell wants to watch a race 2-3 weeks after it actually happened and you know the results? This is just stupid! This is why I love Europe (EuroSport) they show all of the practice and qualifying for all of the classes as well as all of the races.
Remember back in the day when TNN covered the races, Hell those rednecks did a better job than Speed, from what I can remember!
My DVR had no problem last year finding all the races and recording them. If I wanted to know when they were being shown, I just checked the list of shows to be recorded.
I like that the show on the 21st is 1 hour. So 2 races in a one hour show.
Anyone know who is hosting the show? Probably Ralph Shaheen and Greg White, I can hardly wait.
BTW I think you have succeeded in insulting the communists.
My bag, I probably did insult them ( they would probably do a better job) bottom line is Speed really sucks and I wish someone else could take over the broadcasting! Last year my DVR did just fine also, Hell they could have all the races on from 3am till 6am and that would be great, then I could zoom zoom with my DVR.
Apparently Directv's info was wrong, they actually showed the Superbike race tonight.
Whoever made the deal that gives us Sat. night motorcycle racing two weeks after the fact, failed at their task, it's not a good thing, and it is communist like.
I ain't happy about it, but that's the way it is.
20 million nascar viewers vs 100,000 motorcycle fans, can't be real shocked, but what a crappy deal. Last few seasons they at least pretended to care about same day delayed or at least the same weekend.
Another communistic outfit I think is superbike planet, these guys seem to really hate DMG and all their trying to do, no support for anything DMG.
Every article I read over there is so obviously biased it makes me wonder who or what entity is behind all of their BS.
Never any info on CCS, sometimes on WERA etc.
There's something wrong over there.
I saw one of their stupid poles tonight, 4 stupid choices to their smartass question about the Buell winning at Fontana, downright un-American I say.
some folks don't like the new rules, but that's what is, deal with it.
I have a suspicion that MIC is behind all of their snidely remarks, dogging DMG at every opportunity, cheap attacks, poorly hidden amongst the flurry of wise ass words.
I look for a email address or contact page, can't find it, their hiding out.
They are damaging the sport in America in my opinion.
Damn.
Quote from: tug296 on March 22, 2009, 05:08:45 AM
Another communistic outfit I think is superbike planet, these guys seem to really hate DMG and all their trying to do, no support for anything DMG.
Every article I read over there is so obviously biased it makes me wonder who or what entity is behind all of their BS.
Dean Adams.
I do find the communist reference humorous. Totalitarianism is probably a better description.
well I watched there show last night
wasnt worth watching the guy in the studio took away from watching racing but they didnt show much anyway. not worth recording. Freddie Spencer should go away as well as seheen or what ever the hell his name is.
DMG should turn there racing over to CCS
Give them a break. They at least showed a couple of laps of racing in between all of the commercials. LOL
Its not fair that the L.P.G.A. gets more airtime than A.M.A., I know that a lot of people on here like golf, I still dont care-golf sux. Even if SPEED showed the races in the wee hours the next morning, its better than watchin it two weeks later. I think there is a market for a camera crew and reporter to webcast practice, qualifying, and the race. I would join an online membership to see all of those live. It would have to be dedicated to providing live, and extensive coverage. Anybody got a camera?
Quote from: GIGOLO on March 22, 2009, 11:31:10 AM
I know that a lot of people on here like golf, I still dont care-golf sux.
Baseball sux, and it's not even owned by communists.
Watched today. It was pretty bad. Timing well thought out so they could not have any in studio guests.
Last year was much better. Not sure who thinks this is a better format.
OMFG I thought it was HORRIBLE! Freddie sounded drunk. Or at the very least like he tried to quit caffeine cold turkey after a ten cups of coffee a day habit. I usually blow it off when people rip him on these forums but that was horrid. At one point when going over the grid he said Neil Hodgson was on the Corona Suzuki!!!
Quote from: GIGOLO on March 22, 2009, 11:31:10 AM
Its not fair that the L.P.G.A. gets more airtime than A.M.A., I know that a lot of people on here like golf, I still dont care-golf sux. Even if SPEED showed the races in the wee hours the next morning, its better than watchin it two weeks later. I think there is a market for a camera crew and reporter to webcast practice, qualifying, and the race. I would join an online membership to see all of those live. It would have to be dedicated to providing live, and extensive coverage. Anybody got a camera?
OTT does a pretty good job! www.onthethrottle.tv
last year they had some coverage of the CCS races @ VIR. that was pretty cool to see myself railing through T3 ! (well, at least i "thought" i was going fast!)
with all the channels i've got on dish network i can't beleive there's only one hour of racing all weekend and i fell asleep in the middle . please pinks 'pinks all out pinks unplugged then there's the stunt bike show how many BS wheelies can you watch. even the skate boarders have more shows . maybe the ama wants too much for a smaller channel to take a chance on filming i did see a film crew at palm beach probably a spanish network . but that's ok at least its something.
Quote from: tug296 on March 22, 2009, 05:08:45 AM
Another communistic outfit I think is superbike planet, these guys seem to really hate DMG and all their trying to do, no support for anything DMG.
Every article I read over there is so obviously biased it makes me wonder who or what entity is behind all of their BS.
Never any info on CCS, sometimes on WERA etc.
There's something wrong over there.
I saw one of their stupid poles tonight, 4 stupid choices to their smartass question about the Buell winning at Fontana, downright un-American I say.
some folks don't like the new rules, but that's what is, deal with it.
I have a suspicion that MIC is behind all of their snidely remarks, dogging DMG at every opportunity, cheap attacks, poorly hidden amongst the flurry of wise ass words.
I look for a email address or contact page, can't find it, their hiding out.
They are damaging the sport in America in my opinion.
Damn.
So what you're saying is you don't like Superbike Planet?
First of all "communistic"???? I won't even go there.
Secondly, SP is run by Dean Adams, a huge fan and historian of racing. The material is his own, save for a handful of contributors. There is a lot of opinion and satire, but last I checked we still have freedom of speech and expression. I absolutely hate Bill Maher but he's entitled to share his opinions for the entertainment of the people who agree with him. I don't watch his show. See how simple that is?
Do you know what MIC is?? Motorcycle Industry Council. A non-profit organization like the AMA. I'm certain Buell is involved, along with the other OEMs. I don't think they're behind the Buell smearing. That's rediculous.
And lastly, why is it "un-American" to pick on the rules of the Daytona Sportbikes class? No one is ripping on the Buell, (if they were, it would be un-American, un-Canadian, and un-Japanese since the bike is basically equal parts of each) Most are upset that DMG classified an 1125cc liquid cooled dohc twin with 600cc fours. Rightfully so, but I wont get into that here. Its a shame that this has to reflect poorly on Eslick, because he's an exceptional rider and great kid, but that's another story.
Quote from: tzracer on March 22, 2009, 08:38:27 AM
I do find the communist reference humorous. Totalitarianism is probably a better description.
maybe people are looking at it historically, ie, the application of communism has often had a totalitarian theme during the 20th century....just a thought.
gotta admit, though.....Speed's version of "coverage" of AMA sucks, no matter what label it stuck on it.
Quote from: backMARKr on March 23, 2009, 02:12:27 PM
maybe people are looking at it historically, ie, the application of communism has often had a totalitarian theme during the 20th century....just a thought.
gotta admit, though.....Speed's version of "coverage" of AMA sucks, no matter what label it stuck on it.
LOL.
True about the application of communism, really just communism in name.
But at least F1 is starting this weekend.
And what is up with Stewert throwing away another win.
Quote from: tzracer on March 23, 2009, 02:20:02 PM
LOL.
True about the application of communism, really just communism in name.
But at least F1 is starting this weekend.
Brian
Understood.....have been doing "Animal Farm" with my Historical World Lit class the last couple weeks so application of communism has been a topic of coversation ( Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, etc).
I just look forward to WSB myself....fun to watch and not so much drama. :biggrin:
M
Quote from: tzracer on March 23, 2009, 02:20:02 PM
.And what is up with Stewert throwing away another win.
Hitting neutral is something I think that we all have done, but the first crash was pretty embarrassing. Chad and the rest of the guys have to know that straight up they cant beat him. He will occasionally beat himself. I dont think you will see chad win anymore races, Bubba's gonna get his shit together.
as a big two wheel racing fan i am disgusted by the new television schedule im the type that if i know the outcome of a race i find it really hard to watch the race wheres the excitement in watching i find it somewhat a waste of time and its pretty hard to not look on the internet an not see the results you would have to pretty much stop looking at any site that deals with road racing im only going to be able to watch wsb moto gp an supercross/motocross go stewart
I've been reading his stuff for many years, and know full well of his enthusiasm for motorcycle roadracing, I met him at Daytona during the vintage races a few years ago. He's always had quirky fun type material and I enjoyed reading some of it, but since AMA went to DMG it's been nothing but piss and vinegar directed at Roger Edmondson and DMG.
Could be personal, I don't know, but in my opinion his demeaner has changed toward what is now the AMA, he never ranted on like he's doing now against the old AMA, he jabbed when it was called for, but never with such obvious and blatant apperant anger, like his paycheck was going to be cut in half if DMG took over.
The poll about the Buell could have been any make, my race bike is a Honda, lots of his "polls" are similar, quirky light and goofy etc, this one just seemed so in your face and anti-DMG, like that Buell is running in the class illeagaly thanks to DMG and the new rules they brought with them.
Remember, the poor Buell only has half as many pistons, another day.
The communistic term was just to stay with the theme of the subject about Spud Channel, my input about SP was in addition to.
I just think to have a somewhat influential sight on the web, then put up a nonstop barrage of attacks is detrimental to the sport.
Guess I'll just enjoy the pictures from now on and not read the material.
Love that freedom of speech.
Quote from: JBraun on March 23, 2009, 01:54:41 PM
So what you're saying is you don't like Superbike Planet?
First of all "communistic"???? I won't even go there.
Secondly, SP is run by Dean Adams, a huge fan and historian of racing. The material is his own, save for a handful of contributors. There is a lot of opinion and satire, but last I checked we still have freedom of speech and expression. I absolutely hate Bill Maher but he's entitled to share his opinions for the entertainment of the people who agree with him. I don't watch his show. See how simple that is?
Do you know what MIC is?? Motorcycle Industry Council. A non-profit organization like the AMA. I'm certain Buell is involved, along with the other OEMs. I don't think they're behind the Buell smearing. That's rediculous.
And lastly, why is it "un-American" to pick on the rules of the Daytona Sportbikes class? No one is ripping on the Buell, (if they were, it would be un-American, un-Canadian, and un-Japanese since the bike is basically equal parts of each) Most are upset that DMG classified an 1125cc liquid cooled dohc twin with 600cc fours. Rightfully so, but I wont get into that here. Its a shame that this has to reflect poorly on Eslick, because he's an exceptional rider and great kid, but that's another story.
LMFAO... If everyone who bitched about DMG had to pay a nickel to them, you'd see the greatest racing org on the fucking planet.
It just kills me the amount of bitching that is done about the DMG, from rules to coverage. Specifically on SPEED coverage... Has NO ONE stopped to consider that Speed doesn't come up to DMG/AMA and ask THEM for content? That SPEED actually CHARGES AMA/DMG for their airtime? Now let's keep that in mind and take a look at what happened with the economy...
In all the turmoil within the racing community around the change, coupled with the economy falling off a CLIFF, sponsors, spectators and racers alike backing out or not being able to afford to race or watch; what did you THINK would happen?
Maybe AMA/DMG could afford to have some TV time if they cut 3 weekends from the schedule. Or raised the entry fees for racers and spectators. Or perhaps they can take whatever slots they can get cheap and run whatever commercials they need to, to just put a glimpse of it on the air...
Honestly, all the whining over it makes me wish they WOULD go under just so people would really have some perspective on what they have now...
WABBIT SEASON
Quote from: backMARKr on March 23, 2009, 02:35:16 PM
Brian
Understood.....have been doing "Animal Farm" with my Historical World Lit class the last couple weeks so application of communism has been a topic of coversation ( Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, etc).
I just look forward to WSB myself....fun to watch and not so much drama. :biggrin:
M
I'm with Mark on this one! WSBK has been fun for me to watch and the last SS race was crazy awesome! Was a great race from begining to end!
The DMG stuff is just too much right now. Bunch a riders were fined for not doing autograph sessions and Hacking and DiSalvo getting into it...
It's looking and sounding alot like NASCAR. Uggggh! Sad to see it going they way it's going!
Mike
I wish Speed was communist. We would all own it. We would all control it. We could all watch it. Welcome to Capitalism motherfuckers.
Quote from: Over-ReActor on March 24, 2009, 10:56:43 PM
I wish Speed was communist. We would all own it. We would all control it. We could all watch it. Welcome to Capitalism motherfuckers.
I think socialism is what you were looking for there.
You are right, it is capitalism. They have the right to show what they want, and you have the right to start your own network and show whatever you want. Speed doesn't have a governmental ideology, it is simply trying to sell advertising. Just like you would if you owned a network.
WABBIT SEASON
Whatever the case Speed sucks and that's all theres to it. Will I still watch it? of course what the hell else am I gonna do till may! Can't wait for Memorial Day.
One of my friends said it best as we watched the 200...."NASBIKE".
got to love those pace car starts one less minute of excitement . hope kelcher didn't see that.didn't really think the show was that bad with the interviews and all if they would only play it the same weekend and get rid of the two idiot race commentators WSB and F1 is so much more polished do you think the producers ever watch the other shows? maybe Dave despain and the old Englishmen Chris Carter as announcers