Just registered for the michelin program through XTRM and got my confirmation. I see that i need to get a patch for my suit and some decals. I was wondering if anyone knew who i go through to get them? Can i just email michelin or do i haved to get it from a vendor? Also how much do the trackside vendors charge to swap tires out? Any help is very much appreciated.
your regional trackside vendor can provide you with them. If you buy your tires from your trackside vendor, they usually include the tire swap in the price of the tire.
If I have registered through XTRM in the past do i need to do anything for this years contigency program?
I guess if the debit card you got is expired or going to this year you will.
tires being swapped out from trackside vendor is 10 dollars that includes weights for balancing
Quote from: sahli833 on February 09, 2009, 06:39:29 PM
tires being swapped out from trackside vendor is 10 dollars that includes weights for balancing
Hey there Good Lookin.
Quote from: sahli833 on February 09, 2009, 06:39:29 PM
tires being swapped out from trackside vendor is 10 dollars that includes weights for balancing
How much do you charge if you don't mount them backwards??? :kicknuts:
may be $15 this year. Many vendors got together this year and decided to up the prices.
Tire changes for tires purchased FROM THE TRACKSIDE VENDOR is usualy INCLUDED in the price of the tires.
Yes, you must fill out a 1 time per year Michelin contingency form as well as the contingency form for all products EACH race weekend for all contingency (michelin,vortex,pitbull, etc. ) that gets turned in at tech. Not doing so will ENSURE you dont get your money.
ok cool thanks for the help. Is there a michelin vendor present at every weekend? Ive seen the dunlop guys alot
Quote from: ldub143 on February 10, 2009, 12:41:20 AM
ok cool thanks for the help. Is there a michelin vendor present at every weekend? Ive seen the dunlop guys alot
I'm assuming your asking about Midwest races - BHF, HPT, etc: Tommy Mason is your man http://www.masonracintires.com/AboutUs.asp
yep thats what i need thanks.
We normally have the patches along with the required stickers available at tech.
in addition be sure you list any sponsor you are running for contingency from in your personal sponsor list. That recognition is part of the advertising they recieve for offering contingency.
Quote from: Burt Munro on February 09, 2009, 08:44:31 PM
How much do you charge if you don't mount them backwards??? :kicknuts:
Hey, backwards tires have won races.
Hey Melka, you've ridden on these new tires, what's your opinion on the 180 vs. 190 with this tire on a 600? I've heard both opinions and it seems to depend on the brand of tire and the track but I'm wondering if the new Michelins are any different this way than the PRs because Tom Mason always recommended the 180 for me in the past.
just talked to my uncle tommy mason it is going to be 15 for tire swap but is included in new tire purchase as it was in the past
Quote from: R1Racer99 on February 11, 2009, 10:44:07 PM
Hey Melka, you've ridden on these new tires, what's your opinion on the 180 vs. 190 with this tire on a 600? I've heard both opinions and it seems to depend on the brand of tire and the track but I'm wondering if the new Michelins are any different this way than the PRs because Tom Mason always recommended the 180 for me in the past.
Listed to Tommy, he knows whats what. Michelin superdude Robert Jensen im pretty sure prefers the 180s on his 600.
I tried a 190 only a couple times with the past PR series. I ran similar lap times at Jennings as the 180 and at other tracks it did not accelerate as fast or flip from side to side as easy. Im positive you loose some HP with the heavy 190 tire. There has to be some advantage and some disadvantage to a 190 on a 600 as other brands work well for their riders but i dont think dunlop has a good 180, only a 190. . I went back to the 180. I may try the NEW 190 however!! Hope some others post info!
The NEW 180 "A" (softer edges) wears GREAT in the 70deg temps at Homestead. I put over 30 laps on one and it still looks better than a PR3 did with 1/2 the laps. It grips BETTER than a 3 if that was possible. You will notice the hard middle compound appear more pronounced as the softer edges wear but it did not seem to affect feel.
The "A" and "B" fronts are stiffer carcass with 5 plys, and the 4ply triangulated "V" front REALLY turns the bike in and I thought would be faster lap times. I think i like the firmer A front as i never even came close to the tires limits but ran same laps as the fast turn in "V" tire..
BOttom line, each of the NEW michelins appear to have a use for certain conditions. THe sticky sided firm carcas "A" for cooler days and the "B" on hotter days, and a "V" if you like that fast turn in. The rear "A" lasts longer, and the "B" should work well at those tracks with long fast turns were the 3 would get hot.
I'll throw my comments out here about the 180 vs the 190...
When I was testing tires for Michelin on the Safety First team in 07' - We tried both the 180 and 190 PR's. Usually the tires I ran/tested weren't the same as what was available to the public - Kind of a pre cursor to the tires that are available this season. Based off what I learned in 07' - I decided to run the 180's on my 600 last season in 08' and the 190's on my 1000..
I completely agree with Greg on this: On the 600 - the 190 does flip from side to side slower, and it does accelerate a bit slower.... Additionally, the added grip that the 190 offered mid corner always seemed to push the front more then I thought was acceptable. The only real upside that I experienced with the 190 was that I could open the throttle sooner then on the 180 - it did offer a bit more side grip... For me the trade off wasn't worth the hassle....
Now I haven't touched the new tires yet - I haven't had a bike of my own to ride or test since September of last season... So I can't comment on them, But I know Ron always spoke highly of Greg's feedback, So I trust what he has to say....
Thanks Scotty, im trying to translate the know-how to go-fast !! lol.. Thanks for the info on the 190. I didn't ride em much to form much of an opinion but i could see at at track like Jennings GP where your almost always leaned over, the extra side grip could come in handy. Hope to see you on another bike soon, and your really going to like the new tires.
Thanks much for the info, very helpful. It should be nice to have options for different conditions, with the old tires I always just used the same combination.
Is it mise the vendor for MA region? Thinking of during to the darkside....................... :spank:
i'm pretty sure mize motors will be the local rep-- i talked to Q a couple of weeks ago and he seemed pretty excited about the new mich lineup.
Quentin(sp) is East/Northeast (VIR, Summit)- Walt schaffer is South East(Daytona,Atlanta)
Quote from: Scotty Ryan on February 15, 2009, 05:42:07 PM
Quentin(sp) is East/Northeast (VIR, Summit)- Walt schaffer is South East(Daytona,Atlanta)
Yeah, but what's Moose covering now?
Quote from: Super Dave on February 15, 2009, 05:52:59 PM
Yeah, but what's Moose covering now?
I think he is bouncing around the east/mid central for the STT side of Michelin.
Quote from: Super Dave on February 15, 2009, 05:52:59 PM
Yeah, but what's Moose covering now?
My understanding is that he is going to be dealing with the trackdays side more then the race side.. He is based outta Tennessee I think.
Hey once you sign up on the XTRM/Mcihelin site how long does it take to get some info back? I've signed up but yet to hear anything for more than a couple of weeks?
probably wont hear anything untill you recieve an award
a couple of weeks sounds about right. you should get an XTRM/XBUX credit card in the mail sometime soon.
once CCS posts your results back to XTRM, then you'll get your money.
be prepared to get a 1099 at the end of the year. my winnings added up to over a grand. BUT, i didn't have to pay any tax on it. ends up that you are able to deduct your racing expenses, UP TO THE AMOUNT OF YOUR WINNINGS.
Kool thanks.