Well what a great weekend it was, Homestead and all. except that the 1098s kicked ass inn f40 just as the 1198 did because it pulls 15 bike lenghs out of a 2nd gear corner as I pointed out to Kevin Elliot AND THE REST OF THE CCS CREW on the front straight on the 1st lap of the f40 race......... oh, by the way...... Barret Long WAS RUNNING A 1098s in the shootout that was running 3rd, I guess THAT IS AS FAIR AS A 750 RIGHT, THAT iS WHAT I WAs POINTING OUT ON THE FIRST LAP OF THE F40 RACE Mr. Kevin Eliott, that was 20 bike lenghs from t13 to the middle of the front straight. He did that on the back straight, but I closed back to within 2 bike lenghs AND HE DID THAT ON JUST THE FRONT STRAIGHT....and THE DWIRE AND Lars Remsen and the rest of south Florida gets beat by Barret on a 1098s, NOT AN 1198R.... well it might just be an unlimited bike? Any of you snowed in pussy's who got some shit to say can suck my asss, how is that? GO FUCK YOUR SELF WOULD BE BETTER PUT, YOU PUSSYS CANT GET OFF THE COUCH SO STFU. You should have showed up bitches. I know I'm not so fast, only winning a few expert races last year in the se AND THE FLA REGION and getting the #7 plate in expert, but when Shawn Dwire, LARS REMSEN AND EVERYONE BUT JEFF WOOD gets there teeth kicked in by an 1098(ESSSSS) BY JONLONGS SON on their 1000s there is not much chance anyone can hang with getting out dollar ed on the race track. That's why
I ask you kEVIN ELLIOT if they were still legal just before the f40 race, AND WHY i WAS POINT ING TO THE 1098 IN FRONT OF ME AFTER HE PULLED THAT MUCH (20) BIKE LENGHS ON JUST THAT ONE STRAIGHT, IS THAT ENOUGH TO CONVINCE YOU? OR DO YOU NEED MORE PROOF.; I beg everyone to protest, hell lets boycott the class!!!!!!!! and I will stay on my 600 with pump gas, or
I'm going to kill the class with my 750 sb and HOW MANY MORE CLASSES ARE WE GOING TO LET DUCATII TO DESTROY? THEY HAVE DESTROYED LIGHTWEIGHT WITHT THE 1OO0, AND WHEN THEY GET THE 848 RIGHT THEY WILL DESTROY MW?
HAMUROBBY BITCHES, AND YES MELKMAN YOU OWE ME A TACO FOR NOT TAKING YOU OUT AND CRASHING MYSELF BEHIND (TOTALLY MY FAULT) PJ Jacobson IN GTU (HE IS GROWING INTO HIS LEATHERS!) and thanks to Grub and Alex Miniaci for not running over me!!!!! :biggrin: :preachon:
AND YES I LOVE DUCS, RIDING ONE IN MOTOST AND I LOVE YOU ALL :ass:
ITS ALMOST AS Interesting AS WERA AND i WONT GET BANNNED LADIES :biggrin:
YOU SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, SO SAY IT OR ASK IT,AND BRING IT!!!! Thats what a forum is for!!! :jerkoff: :thumb:
I think someone was drinking last night.
Jesus Christ, did you run out of Ritalin?
(a) protest in the proper channels (and bubba this isn't it)
(b) suck it up
(c) break out the check book and buy a ducati
Mike, he has gone through the "channels" and more than a few have complained. A well sorted 600 can run with a 750 on corner speed and just that most of us club racers cant use all the throttle anyway, but these inline 4's have NO chance against these 1000cc Ducs. That's why my $ won't go to a F40 class that i actually looked forward to riding a couple years ago. Not now.
I know some 848's are pushing 140 LEGAL hp , with 2x the torque of a 600 inline. Im not sure what the fix is for the class, but F40 is broken.. I know Robby and Mavros are PISSED. There are others too but wont post names as they are not as vocal.
thanks for not takin me down Robby. Taco with sour cream on the side commin up.
Well, an incoherent "cock sucking, mother fucking, pussy asshole" this that & the other filled rant isn't going to have much of an effect other than putting a large pointy DUNCE cap on the author.
Robby you crack me up man!
Quote from: Jeff on February 09, 2009, 11:16:25 AM
Well, an incoherent "cock sucking, mother fucking, pussy asshole" this that & the other filled rant isn't going to have much of an effect other than putting a large pointy DUNCE cap on the author.
can't disagree with that..
Wait wait wait, did you say Mavros is pissed about someone using a cheater bike? tehe tehe 09 is going to be a fun year!
Quote from: garrettrick on February 09, 2009, 01:46:02 PM
Wait wait wait, did you say Mavros is pissed about someone using a cheater bike? tehe tehe 09 is going to be a fun year!
that is funny, good one ...ROFLMAO
Despite the vigorous expression, the question is valid.
My opinion doesn't even count for two cents but this is how things are where I come from-
Twins are limited to 1000cc in all classes with the exception of.... you guessed it... the over forty class.
The over 40 class is a "run what ya brung" format. But, its not a championship series.
It really lives up to its name as race for older guys that are only in it for the fun.
I'll give F40 a try at this first race. If the difference is really that bad (and it would have to be bad!) I'll race the other classes.
NICE JOB ROB I could not agree with you more. This is a sad ass situation. I have been over this subject till I'm blue in the face. :wtf: In many peoples opinions the people in charge at ccs (KE & EK) have really dropped the ball this year on this one. I went thru the proper channels last year only to get excuse after excuse! I barely pulled the AM championship out of my ass because my main comp. could not keep his 1098 upright and still cant as he was registered for the EX F40 race sunday but crashed out early in the day and did not make the grid or you would have had 1098's running 1&2. :finger:
Last year manny people complained and all that was done is the 1198 was eliminated! BIG THANX FOR NOTHING. What are there like 3 1198's running in all of ccs yea eliminate them big help to the class!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm with you ROB and others I will DROP F40 in protest if we can get it organized. SO lets see last year Mike R and others dropped out of f40 now this year already we have lost Melka and possibly Rob, myself and maybe Charlie M. Nice soon they will only have 4 riders gridding up.
Like I stated last year looks like Ducatti is in bed with ccs and trying to claim some championships and sell more bikes.
+1, well said (with less explitives that Robby..lol)
What some may not understand is the way the big twin makes power. the extra ponies may not sound like a big deal. Not being able to use the throttle cause we are not pros may not either. The big twins put the POWER DOWN BETTER than the inline 4's.. period. They are able to get more hp down easier as they dont spin the rear as much. It is a sight to behold and a fact documented in respected technical magazines by knowledgeable test riders.
While a purely speculative statement, I have to giggle at the thought of Ducati being in bed with CCS to sell more bikes. If that were the case, you'd be running the Ducati Cup, or the X class sponsored by Ducati...
I'm pretty sure that's high on Kevin's wish list, but far from reality...
Hmmm....interesting to see this P.O.V. from the F40 guys. I can unerstand why this pisses some people off. 1098s is a badass bike!
On the complete opposite side of this coin, I am pissed that my ten year old 996 is limited to so few classses. And also why the 748's aren't allowed in LW (Didn't WERA allow them in finally?)
Its just funny, in my eyes, it seems CCS HATES anything with Desmodromic valving, but allows the quentisential Duc beast 1098 run off with it in other classes.
Sounds like F40 needs a new structure. I unerstood the run what ya brung mentaility back in the day, but now, 40 years old isn't even "middle age" so, to think anyone runnning it is only there to whimsically lap the track all in the name of fun, seems a bit of a provencial attitude these days, dontcha think?
F50, anyone? :biggrin:
OK, I'll shut up now before I receive more spite hits on my karma... :pop: :pop: :pop: :pop:
Quote from: MELK-MAN on February 09, 2009, 10:59:32 AM
Mike, he has gone through the "channels" and more than a few have complained. A well sorted 600 can run with a 750 on corner speed and just that most of us club racers cant use all the throttle anyway, but these inline 4's have NO chance against these 1000cc Ducs. That's why my $ won't go to a F40 class that i actually looked forward to riding a couple years ago. Not now.
I know some 848's are pushing 140 LEGAL hp , with 2x the torque of a 600 inline. Im not sure what the fix is for the class, but F40 is broken.. I know Robby and Mavros are PISSED. There are others too but wont post names as they are not as vocal.
thanks for not takin me down Robby. Taco with sour cream on the side commin up.
+1, I'm one of the others, and I've also made inquiries with CCS. Also, besides F40, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't HWSB an issue still, even with only the 1098's (not the 1198's) being legal? It's just not an even competition. Look at these stock (tested, not claimed) #'s:
HP:134-----127
TQ:70-----58
The first column is for a Ducati...but an 848, not even a 1098! I believe that the 1098 has a claimed HP of 160 - so I don't know what that actually measures out to at the RW, but I'm guessing at least in the 140's. That kind of power on a 750 requires a very high-grade, full-on SS build (to get to the low 140's). Then, if the 1098 has anything at all done to it, the gap increases, and then you're talking about full-on SBK builds for the 750's.
Even if one makes the argument that the cost evens outs because of the higher purchase and maintenance price for the Ducs, the fact is that Duc with the stock or SS motor is going to have a reliability advantage over the 750SBK, not to mention the torque advantage.
I just don't see how, when a 2-cylinder bike is given a 20% displacement advantage over its 4-cyl competitors (i.e., 1198's vs. 1000's), and it regularly wins, how a 46.67% displacement advantage for a 2-cyl over a 750cc 4-cylinder is fair. The performance gap between twins and inline 4's (given other technology being equal, like liquid cooling, multi-valves, etc) is just not that great any longer.
1098 is legal hwsSPORT too.. not just superbike.
Quote from: MELK-MAN on February 09, 2009, 11:44:37 PM
1098 is legal hwsSPORT too.. not just superbike.
no it isnt.
HEAVYWEIGHT SUPERSPORT (Amateur & Expert Divisions)
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 1000cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 775cc
All other engine configurations, Unlimited displacement
think about this guys. the 1098 was only made for in 07 and 08, so there will be no progression in that bike. Also, look at the cost of a 1098. If you put that amount of money into building a true superbike 750 within the rules it would be plenty competetive with a 1098. And for the guy that said it wouldnt be as reliable as a Ducati, you have obviously never raced a Ducati.
The problems are with HWSB and F40 (that goes by HWSB rules)
HWSS seems fine as they were wise enough to allow only 1000cc v-twins
The real deal is that prolly 95% of the people running HWSS also run in HWSB with the same SS bike.
How many do you know that have a second SB machine??? Very few I assure you, most are there on 1 bike and it is almost always a SS.
There fore with the 1098 in HWSB I do not run that class and now am considering dropping F40 also!
I think this sucks cause I like the F40 but do not want to throw money away either.
I may be over 40 but I don't go to the expense and take the risks for the hell of it I go to WIN!
I thought people whined less as they got older.... :)
Quote from: RAISING CANE on February 10, 2009, 01:26:12 AM
The problems are with HWSB and F40 (that goes by HWSB rules)
HWSS seems fine as they were wise enough to allow only 1000cc v-twins
The real deal is that prolly 95% of the people running HWSS also run in HWSB with the same SS bike.
How many do you know that have a second SB machine??? Very few I assure you, most are there on 1 bike and it is almost always a SS.
There fore with the 1098 in HWSB I do not run that class and now am considering dropping F40 also!
I think this sucks cause I like the F40 but do not want to throw money away either.
I may be over 40 but I don't go to the expense and take the risks for the hell of it I go to WIN!
that is the most twisted logic I have ever seen for removing a bike from a class. Because you dont build your bike to the class rules they should take another bike out. By your logic 750s shouldnt be allowed in the heavyweight class either because in reality 95% of that class is 600s anyway. I just dont see the problem with the 1098 in hwt sb. And i raced an 848 last year and the only time I got beat by a 1098 all year was at Daytona. And this year I am racing a 750.
Quote from: ahastings on February 10, 2009, 08:21:39 AM
that is the most twisted logic I have ever seen for removing a bike from a class. Because you dont build your bike to the class rules they should take another bike out. By your logic 750s shouldnt be allowed in the heavyweight class either because in reality 95% of that class is 600s anyway. I just dont see the problem with the 1098 in hwt sb. And i raced an 848 last year and the only time I got beat by a 1098 all year was at Daytona. And this year I am racing a 750.
+1. Just because someones bike is slow and they dont build it to the class rules doesnt mean the faster bike should be taken out. These numbers people are puttin out are waaay off too. That or they need to learn to use a dyno. My bone stock 04/05 750 with an exhaust and a cheap lockhart phillips preloaded fuel map box with just a bit of dyno work made 138 dj/hp. And it got walked by every new 750 I ran across torwards the front of the pack. The 1098's I ran across on occasion were nothing like the 1000's when and if they came by you. The only 1098 that I ran across was that silly fast superbike a guy in the MW had built. That thing was ridiculous, but it was a superbike and I was on a SS bike.
ahh. the 1098 is not legal for hwss. Ok. Not sure why i thought it was.. Still a bummer about f40. As far as "not many of them", come race FL region! ...lol.. It is like little Italy down here on race day, and Chris Boy at Motocorse is makin em pretty darn fast. Barret Long is just crazy fast, no matter what he rides.
Exactly Ben,
We're not talking about 7 bike per year builds from HRC or Bimota. These machines are available at the store, for anyone to purchase. You want the best... open you're wallet!
This same crappy line of logic has been circulating the LW classes for years now concerning the XB-12R and 1000DS... Thankfully, bikes continue to inprove, and as they improve the class structure changes.
If you want to be competetive on the same ride for many years, I'd recommend AHRMA or WERA vintage.
Dude... time goes forward not backwards... get over it!
Quote from: Jeff on February 09, 2009, 11:16:25 AM
Well, an incoherent "cock sucking, mother fucking, pussy asshole" this that & the other filled rant isn't going to have much of an effect other than putting a large pointy DUNCE cap on the author.
Do you kiss your wife with that mouth?
The way the guys are whining, I figured I'd see 1098 / 1198's winning every class they are eligible for. I only saw 2 outright wins, Expert Supertwins along with a win in F40 and it was the only Duc in that class.
Otherwise the best finish was a 2nd in Am F40 and a 3rd in Expert GTO.
This was from Firebird 2/7 & 8
Not exactly running away with the wins.
Didn't see any in the results from Firebird in January.
I guess my thought is if you are tired of getting beat by a 1098, go buy one and quit your whining.
Quote from: Cowboy 6 on February 10, 2009, 10:01:44 AM
Do you kiss your wife with that mouth?
Wife, Kids, Mother, sure... I was making a point about the original poster (and referencing basically his own words). I didn't mean to offend you if I did.
Old people are just like babies as we get older we whine and need our diaper changed sometimes. Some of you guys that only race 4 times a year should come down here and race 40 times a year and get a true feel for what is happening on the track.
I understand and can live with the HWSB rules as a SB built 750 may be able to run with a stock 1098 but I have not seen it. I would like to see F40 use HWSS rules not SB.
Seems that this subject is like poitics and religion everyone has their opinion.
I have had my eye open for a 1098 but still a little pricey 4 this low budget racer.
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I just don't see how, when a 2-cylinder bike is given a 20% displacement advantage over its 4-cyl competitors (i.e., 1198's vs. 1000's), and it regularly wins, how a 46.67% displacement advantage for a 2-cyl over a 750cc 4-cylinder is fair.
LIghtweight is the same deal. Buell and BMW with their 1200 cc have a 56% displacement advantage over the actual lightweight bikes in the class that only have 650cc. For some reason oil or air cooled HP doesn't propel a motorcycle as well as watercooled HP. I checked BMW specs for the R1200S HP= 122 w/ TQ = 83 stock! SV 650 HP=70 w/TQ = 42 stock. Yeah, that's about even. Hmm 122, that's even a little high for a middleweight bike. What about weight you say? Well, yes the BMW weighs in a 470 lbs, but that is WITH 4.5 gallons of fuel, ready to go. The SV? 438. That's only 32 lbs. The 2007 Ninja 650? 65.5 HP and 439 lbs. Buell VB12R? 103 HP,,84 lbs TQ at only 385 lbs! A 2007 GSXR 600? 99 hp and 438 lbs.
Pounds / HP? Pounds / ft lbs Torque?
Ninja 650===== 6.70:1 9.98:1 "Lightweight" bike
SV650======= 6.25:1 9.73:1 BMWR1200R=== 3.85:1 5.66:1
Buell XB12R=== 4.25:1 5.21:1 not "Lightweight" bike
GSXR 600===== 4.06:1 8.93:1If that isn't enough, how many REAL lightweights can even approach a 1:16 at Summit?
Quote from: Jeff on February 10, 2009, 10:45:40 AM
Wife, Kids, Mother, sure... I was making a point about the original poster (and referencing basically his own words). I didn't mean to offend you if I did.
No problem, just kind of foul. No use stooping to his level.
If you're race prep'd SV weighs 438 with 20 gallons of fuel... you've got a problem!
Like I said before, if your bike ain't the new hotness, then go buy the one you think will make you faster.
If you're not spending 40-50 hours a week improving you're ride, you've got no reason to bitch. There are stupid- fast SV's, as well as GSXR-750's... but it takes some ambition to get there. It also takes ambition to maintain Ducatis and Buells.
If you sit around on you're ass, watching tv all winter, and expect you're 10 year old SV to still be competive you're living the fantasy.
As far as I can tell, stock sv's and ex650's have been pushed down to ULSB so they can continue to be competitive. Is that fair to guys on Hawks and EX500's... nope, but that's how progress works.
By the way, my 1000SS has P/W of 3.2 hp/lb (340lb and 107hp), which is just about where a properly built SV700 should be (300lb and 95hp). A Honda RS250 has about 2.8 hp/lb, so is it not a lightweight bike?
I don't know about everybody else here, but I'm a pretty untalented rider. I realized quite a while back that "it's me" not "the bike". But I guess ego's and introspection are mutually exclusive.
Quote from: 123user on February 10, 2009, 12:19:38 PM
If you're race prep'd SV weighs 438 with 20 gallons of fuel... you've got a problem!
I was quoting off the showroom floor for all bikes to keep apples with apples. If you want to get ridiculous, drive on. I'm out.
Try to remember what a superbike is. Not everyone is here just to prove their riding skills. Many compete for the challenge of building a better bike. Superbike is a test of rider skill, mechanical knowledge, and risk management. As an engineer, I can find many opportunities to build a better race bike from almost any stock machine. The 1098 is a little different. The stock machine is very close to an all out race bike, so there is not a lot left for a club racer to do. That being said, I have infinitely more respect for the racer/builder who takes a street bike and makes it fast than someone who opens their checkbook every couple of years and buys the latest and greatest from Bologna. The point is the class allows for nearly unlimited modification, and if you do not to take advantage of that, then you should not expect to be competitive. The same is true if you are up against a 1098, or an AMA quality GSXR 750. In the end, any bike legal in the class if taken to the limit of the rules would have a dramatic advantage, and an astronomical price tag.
I understand what you're doing. But one must analyze realities when making comparisons between bikes. If you compare P/W on a new GSXR750 to a new RC51, it would appear that the GSXR-750 was better "off the showroom floor". I think that HRC proved that wasn't the case a few years back.
I also don't totally agree that somehow twins are magically easier to ride. All of those I've owned (3 hawks, a 1000ss, and a TL1000) did some pretty nasty stuff on corner entrance and downshifts. Can you get on the throttle earlier... I don't know... can YOU?
Since I realize that I'm a talentless, 6'2", 230lb, ogre, I concentrate on the bike building process to help me finish. That's what I enjoy. If some little midget is fast but doesn't know which way to turn a bolt, I don't feel too bad for them.
Quote from: RAISING CANE on February 10, 2009, 10:46:36 AM
Old people are just like babies as we get older we whine and need our diaper changed sometimes. Some of you guys that only race 4 times a year should come down here and race 40 times a year and get a true feel for what is happening on the track.
I understand and can live with the HWSB rules as a SB built 750 may be able to run with a stock 1098 but I have not seen it. I would like to see F40 use HWSS rules not SB.
Seems that this subject is like poitics and religion everyone has their opinion.
I have had my eye open for a 1098 but still a little pricey 4 this low budget racer.
f40 was hwss rules up for a couple yrs but people bitched so they switched it back to hwsb now people are bitching again. if you can afford 40 weekends a yr you surely can afford a ducati if its such a huge advantage. at that pace there must have already been about 4 races down there already this year because you would have to race 3 out of every 4 weekends to race that much.
not 40 w/e's........ 40 races a season. 10 w/e 4 races per.
And I do think I can afford a Duc, it's my wife who thinks I can't!
If I could only convince her.
Quote from: RAISING CANE on February 10, 2009, 09:06:16 PM
And I do think I can afford a Duc, it's my wife who thinks I can't!
If I could only convince her.
Sorry! Classes are not centered around you're ability to afford them. For the most part, we're all club racers. Some of us are untalented shills with lots of money, some of us are talented but broke, most of us are somewhere in-between.
Before you claim that you can't afford a $16,000 ducati vs $11,000 UJM... look around. Do you have a cell phone? do you have cable tv? do you eat out at restaurants? do you have a nice car? Do you smoke? Did you buy a helmet with graphics? Did you have someone else paint your bike?
This is all stuff you don't need! I bet there's an extra $5000 floating around in there somewhere. If you really wanted a Duc you'd be shopping at the salvation army, eating PB&J for most meals, and getting rid of all that cable/cell phone/pagers/blackberry crap that just complicates your life anyway!
Agreed!!! If I did not have the wife as the budget director I would just sleep in my race trailer, besides I love the smell of race fuel over glade plug ins.LOL.
But then you have to maintain that Duc.
Quote from: RAISING CANE on February 11, 2009, 10:48:46 AM
Agreed!!! If I did not have the wife as the budget director I would just sleep in my race trailer, besides I love the smell of race fuel over glade plug ins.LOL.
Don't tell me you sleep in a motel... that's crazy expensive! Sell your trailer and truck and buy a Econline 350 in stylish white. If my wife was unwilling to sleep in the van, she'd be staying at home.
I just see an awful lot of people out there with blinged out bikes, nice trailers, and all fancy gear. Hell, I'm too cheap to even buy a fairing.
Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 11, 2009, 11:42:35 AM
But then you have to maintain that Duc.
I do all my own maint. with the exception of having the dealer pull the primary gear (I'll let them screw that up). Lash is adjusted after every weekend, oil every two, brake fluid every 3. None of this stuff is really difficult, but I wouldn't have the time if I had anything even remotely close to a social life. In the end, we make the decision about our dedication. And I've said it a million times, if you're not running a full season, you're not really trying to win- its just an aggressive track day, quit complaining!
1098r and 1198 bikes are not B class compete with 750 class material. There were designed to compete with 1000 cc I-4 bikes period. Maybe F40 should become an open class and just allow everything in, including 1000 I-4's. and then the crying can really start. :ass:
Quote from: 123user on February 11, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
Sorry! Classes are not centered around you're ability to afford them. For the most part, we're all club racers. Some of us are untalented shills with lots of money, some of us are talented but broke, most of us are somewhere in-between.
Before you claim that you can't afford a $16,000 ducati vs $11,000 UJM... look around. Do you have a cell phone? do you have cable tv? do you eat out at restaurants? do you have a nice car? Do you smoke? Did you buy a helmet with graphics? Did you have someone else paint your bike?
This is all stuff you don't need! I bet there's an extra $5000 floating around in there somewhere. If you really wanted a Duc you'd be shopping at the salvation army, eating PB&J for most meals, and getting rid of all that cable/cell phone/pagers/blackberry crap that just complicates your life anyway!
I have a cell phone that I claim for work. I make my own xxx rated movies. I eat out between emergency medical calls and those hypoglycemic moments. I ride my wife's 1981 CB750. I watch others smoke. I have a plain Jane helmet and usually on close out if I can. I use buzz bomb to pain my bikes. A total of $12 to pain the entire bike. I still can't afford the Ducati.
Mark
Mark I thought you were in the biz of helping with pain? Why are you paining your bike???? And as far as the xxx movies go you can keep them to yourself!!!!
Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 11, 2009, 11:42:35 AM
But then you have to maintain that Duc.
You got that wright Steve, One of our FL. AM's had tranny trouble last Oct. at Daytona. Cost him 10K to repair. It was an 1198...
Mark,
You also make your own music! "I got sunshi.....ine on a clowdy day........when it's cold outside and ....."
Its still stuck in my head dude. LOL I'll never forget Mark bustin out in song in the awards banquet. Good times
Quote from: d-wire on February 11, 2009, 10:10:41 PM
Mark,
You also make your own music! "I got sunshi.....ine on a clowdy day........when it's cold outside and ....."
Its still stuck in my head dude. LOL I'll never forget Mark bustin out in song in the awards banquet. Good times
i just about needed the hymlic manuver performed on me when i heard Mark start singing..
Quote from: roadracer22 on February 11, 2009, 07:54:17 PM
I have a cell phone that I claim for work. I make my own xxx rated movies. I eat out between emergency medical calls and those hypoglycemic moments. I ride my wife's 1981 CB750. I watch others smoke. I have a plain Jane helmet and usually on close out if I can. I use buzz bomb to pain my bikes. A total of $12 to pain the entire bike. I still can't afford the Ducati.
Mark
Maybe you should try using actors in the movies and they'd sell better :D
Well I am glad that I can make an impression on you guys, I know my riding doesn't. It was good fun all around.
As for the movies, there aren't too many that can do the XXX and martial arts in the same scene. Of course I did my best Jackie Chan impression tumbling through T2 this past weekend, and dang it if I didn't land on my feet running away from the bike.
Dwire, you better be using that romantic moment on your wife. Of course I almost did a song for my girlfriend (Nancy). "I'm your boogie man, that's what I am..."
Mark
Quote from: roadracer22 on February 11, 2009, 07:54:17 PM
I have a cell phone that I claim for work. I make my own xxx rated movies. I eat out between emergency medical calls and those hypoglycemic moments. I ride my wife's 1981 CB750. I watch others smoke. I have a plain Jane helmet and usually on close out if I can. I use buzz bomb to pain my bikes. A total of $12 to pain the entire bike. I still can't afford the Ducati.
Mark
Are you making you're own porn to watch or sell? Because if you are paying "actors", but only to make XXX for you're own enjoyment, that's where all the money goes. Oh yeah, I forgot! Do you have children? 'cause that's a deal breaker!
Quote from: 123user on February 12, 2009, 09:38:08 AM
Are you making you're own porn to watch or sell? Because if you are paying "actors", but only to make XXX for you're own enjoyment, that's where all the money goes. Oh yeah, I forgot! Do you have children? 'cause that's a deal breaker!
I'm in my own porn with my wife, only that there is no film in the camera(no $$) so I just look through the view finder as it happens. At 47 I have two sons 20 and soon to be 22 that now are paying for me on many things. one actually gets me a great discount on parts.
Mark
Quote from: roadracer22 on February 12, 2009, 09:57:28 AM
I'm in my own porn with my wife, only that there is no film in the camera(no $$) so I just look through the view finder as it happens. At 47 I have two sons 20 and soon to be 22 that now are paying for me on many things. one actually gets me a great discount on parts.
Mark
You're still making you're own porn at age 47... yuck, we don't need to know that! Sex is fun, but a terrible waste of time.
Quote from: 123user on February 12, 2009, 10:09:30 AM
You're still making you're own porn at age 47... yuck, we don't need to know that! Sex is fun, but a terrible waste of time.
Believe me we have been Honeymooning for the past 9 years of marriage. She is the best thing that has ever happened to me and my racing.
Mark
Quote from: roadracer22 on February 12, 2009, 10:39:18 AM
Believe me we have been Honeymooning for the past 9 years of marriage. She is the best thing that has ever happened to me and my racing.
Mark
Yet another man has been domesticated. Let that be a lesson for you all!
Quote from: 123user on February 12, 2009, 10:56:47 AM
Yet another man has been domesticated. Let that be a lesson for you all!
There are some tings that a man can't say "no" to.
'Sup Robby? Haven't seen ya in a while.
Sounds like the 1098s is the bike to have in HW F40...
I say if the rules favor a specific bike, buy one.
Don't run the class if seems unfair. Just my 2 cents.
There's other classes where the rulebook is kinda whacked (IMO) too.
There's plenty of race orgs and classes to choose from, I'd run what worked for me rather than against.
Good thing I'm not 40, or I might have something of value to add here.
Carry on. =)
Okay, i have spent countless hours lightening my bikes (Ed Key inspired). My ss600 weighs a REAL 349lbs minus fuel ready to race. (most come on the scales at asra races at 387 or so) and my ss600 is THE Rob Jensens 07 bike that weighed 385 when I started lightening it. I have three superbike engines, two 600s and an 815 motor that scares the shit out of me. I have developed (read spent HUNDREDS of hours and countless $) my three bikes (because I'm not so fast a rider) to the point if I take any more weight off them they will vaporize above 100mph. I have lowered my weight to 170lbs (lowest of 162)from 195 plus, and can climb a staircase without getting winded. I'm sorry but its hard to make up 15 bike lengths off each corner to a guy who is cruising around the corners (he is much faster than he was riding) and exploding with that much power onto the straights. Hey I can take getting beaten by Charlie Mavros on his 750 sb, its apples racing apples! Its only a few bike lenghs faster off the corners than a good 600, and if I get upset about that, I can run my big bike too ::) How about a lightweight, middleweight and unlimited class for f40 and how about a f50? Then the 1098 ess can run where it belongs, in unlimited, just a nice thought. Can you tell I am pissed about it? so much for having fun at club races, heck I can afford to race sports cars with SCCA at this pace, maybe I should not have sold my 44ft trailer so soon :banghead: :whine: I will be at CCSDaytona helping some fast racers, and at the 200 helping a certain 848 rider...so stop and say hi. 8)
So youre saying you cant have fun at a club race unless you win? Man, you sure whine alot.
Quote from: benprobst on February 17, 2009, 09:11:07 AM
So youre saying you cant have fun at a club race unless you win? Man, you sure whine alot.
Well... duh... it's not fun unless you win... (LMAO)
No, I'm not saying that winning is the only way to have fun in club racing. In fact, its a great way to not have a good time club racing. I had a wonderfull time riding in the 8hrs at Daytona with my great friends on a ds1000 finishing fifth in class, that was an awesome experience! The competition for me was just trying to keep pace with my buddies lap times and not hold the team back or make a mistake that would cost us. But, the most fun and memorable race that I have been involved in, I finished fourth at Barber in f40. It was soooo much fun tripping over each other in every corner, Patrick Johnson, Mavros, me and three or four others were absolutely having a blast. I wish I could run a race like that every weekend, it really is all about the fun factor, camaraderie, and the experiences for everyone involved, it just needs to be a fair game for everyone to play.