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Title: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: Hollywood on June 14, 2008, 02:09:00 PM
is there one? I can't find the info on their site (which takes 10 min to load) about a track day before. I would hate to show up the day of and find it sold out. ::)

somebody post up a link

oh, and how hard are they on pitbikes? I saw lots of hard language about "impounding" and other things. Anybody have any experience?
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: RCR_531 on June 14, 2008, 03:12:39 PM
NESBA has Tuesday and Wednesday but the Track has Thursday.
http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,20621.0.html
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: TrophyGal on June 14, 2008, 05:10:38 PM
I'd call the track if I were you ..  Contact info:

http://www.ccsracing.us/venues/rdamerica.html

SEE THIS THREAD TOO:
http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,20621.0.html
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: Sobottka on June 14, 2008, 05:31:07 PM
I called the track and signed up over the phone, they mailed me a statement/receipt  :thumb:
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: kl3640 on June 14, 2008, 06:52:17 PM
Someone kindly posted this link:

http://www.roadamerica.com/images/races_ccs/ccs_08_test_schedule.pdf

in another thread.  The "Test Day" is on the 3rd, the day before the Festival of Speed begins with the ASRA Team Challenge, CCS GT, and ASRA qualifying events.

I believe that the pre-entry deadline is the 25th of June, a week from this coming Wed.

Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: Hollywood on June 14, 2008, 08:37:02 PM
Thanks for all of the input guys (and gals). I'm wondering how much value a $175 "practice" day will be when I'll be getting 3 sessions per morning and ASRA practice courtesy of CCS. Factor in tires and fuel, it's a

Is this track really hard to learn? I heard it's fast, but not super technical.How is it on tires so I know how many to bring for a 600 with 3 races and ASRA SBK and ASRA Sportbike over the weekend. What say ye, Mid West racers?
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: J Farrell / Speed Tech Motorsp on June 14, 2008, 09:51:28 PM
JUST DO NESBA
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: red900 on June 14, 2008, 10:54:31 PM
Yep, you should do nesba
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: kl3640 on June 15, 2008, 03:01:24 AM
Farrell and red900, Why should he only do NESBA?  The RA Test Day is immediately preceding the ASRA/CCS event, so for those of us who are traveling to get there then perhaps that's one or two days fewer that we need to be off from work and away from home, if we can be there just 1 day early instead of 2 or 3 days early.  Is there some dis-advantage to the Test Day about which we who are not local to RA should be aware?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: Hollywood on June 15, 2008, 05:01:07 PM
Quote from: kl3640 on June 15, 2008, 03:01:24 AM
Farrell and red900, Why should he only do NESBA?  The RA Test Day is immediately preceding the ASRA/CCS event, so if for those of us who are traveling to get there then perhaps that's one or two days fewer that we need to be off from work and away from home, if we can be there just 1 day early instead of 2 or 3 days early.  Is there some dis-advantage to the Test Day about which we who are not local to RA should be aware?  Thanks.

yeah, what he said. I'm not a NESBA member. What gives, is there something we should know?
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: Helmsman on June 15, 2008, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on June 15, 2008, 05:01:07 PM
yeah, what he said. I'm not a NESBA member. What gives, is there something we should know?

Yeah they are sponsored by NESBA and are control riders.  lol

Its cheaper to do the RA day, i don't need to do buy a membership, and i can take one less day off work. I find it amusing that the only people i have ever heard say good things about NESBA were control riders for them.  :) And it ain't been just on this forum. 
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: racrx451 on June 16, 2008, 12:00:17 AM
Im pretty sure Mr. Farrell is not a control rider for NESBA but an AMA PRO RIDER.  I thought the RA day was a bit expensive for limited track time and a lot of traffic (assuming).  I do understand the extra days off though.  You could always do what I did last year at most tracks I went to.... add a GTO or GTU to your list of races w/practice.  Im sure you can figure out the track with that much time. 
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: RCR_531 on June 16, 2008, 12:48:49 AM
Farrell is a CR for NESBA
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: r1owner on June 16, 2008, 07:59:16 AM
Quote from: Helmsman on June 15, 2008, 11:18:26 PM
Yeah they are sponsored by NESBA and are control riders.  lol

Its cheaper to do the RA day, i don't need to do buy a membership, and i can take one less day off work. I find it amusing that the only people i have ever heard say good things about NESBA were control riders for them.  :) And it ain't been just on this forum. 

Oh boy, here we go again!

The 2nd annual bashing of NESBA before R.A. thread! :)
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: benprobst on June 16, 2008, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: r1owner on June 16, 2008, 07:59:16 AM
Oh boy, here we go again!

The 2nd annual bashing of NESBA before R.A. thread! :)


NESBA SUCKS! 



:biggrin:
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: r1owner on June 16, 2008, 09:37:02 AM
That'll be an extra 1000 smites for you Mr. Probst.  :)
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: jigs on June 16, 2008, 10:45:52 AM
The test day I believe is 4,25 min. sessions at 175 bucks,if you sign up after June 26th,it's 225.The NESBA days are 7,20 min. sessions.
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: truckstop on June 16, 2008, 01:09:23 PM
There's pros and cons either way: RA practice day - It's race practice with your competitors, with race rules, the day before the event starts, and there's less time off for travelers. NESBA day - Amateur plates usually have to run "I" group with trackday passing rules, and expert plates can usually get "A" group. You can ask for help from the CRs though if you want, many of whom are very fast, so there's some instruction available and you can potentially learn the track better than figuring it out on your own. It'll cost you $185 +$75 Membership fee. That's $1.75 per minute on track vs. $1.85 per minute. I think that's pretty even. (If I did the math right, I admit to sucking with numbers)
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: r1owner on June 16, 2008, 01:33:59 PM
Quote from: truckstop on June 16, 2008, 01:09:23 PM
There's pros and cons either way: RA practice day - It's race practice with your competitors, with race rules, the day before the event starts, and there's less time off for travelers. NESBA day - Amateur plates usually have to run "I" group with trackday passing rules, and expert plates can usually get "A" group. You can ask for help from the CRs though if you want, many of whom are very fast, so there's some instruction available and you can potentially learn the track better than figuring it out on your own. It'll cost you $185 +$75 Membership fee. That's $1.75 per minute on track vs. $1.85 per minute. I think that's pretty even. (If I did the math right, I admit to sucking with numbers)

Is that cost per minute accounting for tires and gas? 

Cause if you're not going race pace, I think the cost per minute will be less...
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: jigs on June 16, 2008, 01:41:05 PM
 :whine:Yeah I hear ya,I already signed up for Teus.,and I did  it early.Last year there was no test day,so i figured the Advanced group would sell out quickly,now I find out there IS a test day.....oh well...see you there.
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: truckstop on June 16, 2008, 01:48:16 PM
Quote from: r1owner on June 16, 2008, 01:33:59 PM
Is that cost per minute accounting for tires and gas? 

Cause if you're not going race pace, I think the cost per minute will be less...

No, it doesn't include other costs. I ride a turd bike that tops out at 116mph and goes through two sets of tires in a whole season, so I'm the wrong person to ask.  :lmao:

If you're running in Advanced though, I'm sure you'd be pretty close to race pace.
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: jigs on June 16, 2008, 01:54:22 PM
Yeah,'A' pace there is fast,and you can pass on the inside too!!Can you believe it!!
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: ronhix on June 16, 2008, 02:02:47 PM
I'm not real interested in participating in a NESBA bashing thread. 

HOWEVER, as a NESBA CR and a CCS racer, I am interesting in helping other CCS racers that choose to come out to the NESBA events.

That being said, if you feel like you should be in the Advanced group but you do not have an Expert license, I will gladly evaluate you personally during the first Intermediate session to ensure you are not "stuck with track day passing rules".

Again, I'm not gonna try and defend NESBA and its policies and procedures.  I am well aware that many of you hate NESBA.  However, if you want to participate in the NESBA dates then I will gladly work with you in anyway that I can.
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: r1owner on June 16, 2008, 02:19:55 PM
I was kidding about the tire and gas costs!  :)  Shoulda put a smiley there.
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: kl3640 on June 16, 2008, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: jigs on June 16, 2008, 10:45:52 AM
The test day I believe is 4,25 min. sessions at 175 bucks,if you sign up after June 26th,it's 225.The NESBA days are 7,20 min. sessions.

In order to participate in a NESBA track day, is a membership required?  If I'm reading the NESBA website correctly, the pre-entry fee is $185 for June 1st or June 2nd (there is a $15 discount for the 2nd day if you buy both days), with a $20 "late fee."  If membership is required, that's an additional $75 if you aren't already a NESBA member, so that would be $260 total to practice on Tuesday if you pre-register.
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: jigs on June 16, 2008, 06:15:40 PM
I don't think it's required,but I plan on doing more NESBA days this year,so in the long run it will reduce my cost,otherwise it would be a tough call to not do the CCS test day.Not to mention getiing a good pit spot,I got a feeling Fri. A.M. is gonna be crazy.I feel sorry for anyone who won't be pre-registered.Last year was nuts at Registration.
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: Helmsman on June 16, 2008, 11:35:56 PM
Quote from: r1owner on June 16, 2008, 07:59:16 AM
Oh boy, here we go again!

The 2nd annual bashing of NESBA before R.A. thread! :)

Ahh what the hell, i knew it was headed that way anyway.  :p
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: wolf44 on June 17, 2008, 11:55:42 AM
yes membership is required....unless they changed the rules
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: Jwhite316 on June 17, 2008, 12:00:17 PM
how much is it for the RA trackday
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: cshaffer66 on June 17, 2008, 12:33:10 PM
Register by 6/25 - $175
Register after 6/25 - $225

Here's the link - http://www.roadamerica.com/images/races_ccs/ccs_08_test_schedule.pdf
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: TZ_Boy on June 19, 2008, 01:02:29 PM
  Nesba sucks!  Chris how are you going to ride without wheels?
Title: Re: Track Day before RoadAmerica CCS/ASRA in July?
Post by: backMARKr on June 19, 2008, 01:19:10 PM







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