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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: Scooter969 on April 09, 2008, 04:41:18 PM

Title: Road Atlanta
Post by: Scooter969 on April 09, 2008, 04:41:18 PM
Will CCS be racing at Road Atlanta in the future?
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Sig on April 09, 2008, 05:58:35 PM
Who has the crystal ball?

Obviously not this year but I think it would be crazy to speculate beyond that.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Super Dave on April 09, 2008, 07:38:12 PM
And recent past would have one speculate that CCS isn't returning there necessarily soon.  Might be a rental cost issue, etc. 

WERA has the GNF there, and they have another event there. 
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Gixxerblade on April 09, 2008, 08:38:23 PM
From the looks of it the management ruined the track (turn 12) anyway. I think it's like taking the Corkscrew out of Laguna Seca.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Super Dave on April 09, 2008, 09:05:03 PM
Boy, I don't know about that.  It's hard to make up time in the Corkscrew, but you can loose time there.  Turn 12?  Well, you're in fourth with a wall, compared to second at Laguna.

Seems like they could have came up with something different though.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Scooter969 on April 09, 2008, 09:31:09 PM
The mgmt had input for t-12 but so did alot of AMA guys. It was a safety issue even in a cage.  I think it would be a good track to turn a few laps on.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Sig on April 09, 2008, 11:02:05 PM
I still can't figure out why they didn't just plow out a large run off area and leave the original turn in.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: ahastings on April 09, 2008, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: Sig on April 09, 2008, 11:02:05 PM
I still can't figure out why they didn't just plow out a large run off area and leave the original turn in.
have you ever been there? the track surface is about 6-8' below the pit lane which is where the wall is.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: quicktoy on April 10, 2008, 05:35:29 AM
ya millions of dollars of renovation, versus, slapping a lil asphalt in.  when they get to keep the turn now for the cars and only lose it for the bikes
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Super Dave on April 10, 2008, 07:37:40 AM
Additionally, the change has been needed forever.  It isn't like it was a new problem.  It was a problem last year, ten years ago, twenty years ago.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: cardzilla on April 12, 2008, 06:36:47 AM
+1 on another classic track biting the dust!  Being old school I loved gravity cavity... the feeling of bottoming out, then going uphill and slamming it down on your knee under a bridge is indescribable.  So I finally get used to the new version and they add a target parking lot corner to the track?  Let's see, should we move this little wall here or should we completely redesign the track around it and completely ruin the flow.  T12 was the most dangerous corner in racing, but the solution wasn't to make a 90 degree corner... oh well, I guess there's still Roebling... oh wait, we don't go there either...
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Super Dave on April 12, 2008, 07:31:33 AM
LOL!  Yeah, I loved the Gravity Cavity.

CCS doesn't do little Tally either, right? 
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: benprobst on April 12, 2008, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: Aristotle Kristatos on April 12, 2008, 07:31:33 AM
LOL!  Yeah, I loved the Gravity Cavity.

CCS doesn't do little Tally either, right? 

correct.

The new T12 was a slap in the face to the motorcycle guys. And truth be told there isnt much we can do about it. The ama guys bitched and  bitched about it, and eventually the track guys got tired of it and said ok. Spent 5 minutes with a sharpie and a napkin and came up with a new design. They dont care about the motorcycles, they are car guys and they get more money from them. So is the way of the world when it comes to big race tracks.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: Mongo on April 13, 2008, 12:57:30 PM
Actually they got a lot of input from motorcycle guys and came up with the best they could within the limitations they had mostly budget.  They dropped over a million bucks to make it safer for motorcycles and I have no idea how long it will take to recoup that from the bike events but it won't be soon. 

They are car guys yes.  But Doc Panoz didn't spend a hell of a lot of money for the cars.  He did it for the bikes.
Title: Re: Road Atlanta
Post by: steelcityracer on April 13, 2008, 01:38:13 PM
Quote from: Mongo on April 13, 2008, 12:57:30 PM
Actually they got a lot of input from motorcycle guys and came up with the best they could within the limitations they had mostly budget.  They dropped over a million bucks to make it safer for motorcycles and I have no idea how long it will take to recoup that from the bike events but it won't be soon. 

They are car guys yes.  But Doc Panoz didn't spend a hell of a lot of money for the cars.  He did it for the bikes.

Well said... now fix your damn bbs so I dont have to post on this one.