You know, you guys and gals all have me knee deep in leather, and the only pleasure I thought I would have today was watching the races from Daytona...and it goes and rains like a mofo. Who's fault is it??? Hmmm??? Someone own up.
(spyderchick exits muttering underneath her breath)
Fine, I'll just go finish some more work.
Hey, since I didn't make the trip south this year I figured, hell, I'll take the afternoon off work and watch the races at home. NO SUCH LUCK!!
I burned half a day vacation for nuttin'. >:( But ....
I could have burned three or four days for nothin' if I had gone down there so ... ;D ;D
Hopefull the weather will improve by the 27th when I go to Jennings,FL for the first WERA Nat'l Challenge race with Jesse. 8)
Just think, if it didn't rain that hard, but was still a little wet, Matt Wait may have really given the full factory racers a go for it. I hope to see him perform well this year. Besides, he is one of ours (2002 FUSA Grand National Champion).
Those AMA punks should have to run in the rain like we do >:(
QuoteThose AMA punks should have to run in the rain like we do >:(
I didn't hear speed channel mentioning that we CCS/FUSA raced in the rain and had lots of fun...
World Superbike, 125GP, 250GP, motoGP, WERA, CCS and every other motorcycle racing organization races in the rain. Why didn't the AMA races go on today?
The similarities to NASCAR are making me sick.
QuoteWorld Superbike, 125GP, 250GP, motoGP, WERA, CCS and every other motorcycle racing organization races in the rain. Why didn't the AMA races go on today?
The similarities to NASCAR are making me sick.
I thought they would remember what happened at Loudon... wait they do remember, thats why they canceled the races because the factory guys will get their a$$ handed to them... in the rain, the equipment advantage is probably not as much as they would like it to be. We might actually see a privateer in the top 5... Its a disgrace, not race in the rain
Racing in the rain at Daytona for CCS stuff "might" be ok...
But to expect AMA pro guys to go destroy their career and hit the wall, each other, etc. would not be good for the teams, the sport, and the riders.
Look how bad the crashes have been in the dry at Daytona?
First things first...
Compare your best time to their best times... Where do you find that time? You've got to lay it out there. The reality of racing a motorcycle at that level can be pretty chaotic.
So, I think that it is reasonable for Daytona to hold off the races. And Daytona is the promoter...that's why there was no mention of CCS.
I agree with Dave that the level of competition that they are at and the speeds that they carry would make it dangerous to race at Daytona when wet. The AMA will race in the rain at other tracks, so I don't think that it's because they are afraid a privateer would do well.
Sometimes it amazes me that CCS will race there in the rain. It's a lot better now with the new chicane, but the track is still slippery as hell when wet. I crashed and fractured my elbow coming out of the old chicane back in 92 when I hit a small wet area while barely leaned getting back onto the banking and I was going slow at the time.
Nothing to do with racing....
...but today I would rather have the rain vs. the 6" of snow we are supposed to accumulate today (3" so far and counting).
Oh yeah.... Spring starts on March 21st. ::)
Dawn :-/
QuoteSo, I think that it is reasonable for Daytona to hold off the races. And Daytona is the promoter...that's why there was no mention of CCS.
actually, most of the interviews showed during rain delay were filmed in front of the CCS/FUSA victory circle.
And for the rain... I suppose it is understandable for them to hold it off. but also knows that there are other reasons MORE than just the safety. Everyone will risk their lifes and safety. And it DOESN'T and SHOULDN'T mean the factory guys are worth more. That is the message that I have a problem with. I am worth more than many factory rider in many ways except for racing... does that mean I shouldn't ride in the rain?
Privateers have normal lives and contribute to our society in other ways. If that logic, the Professional Entertainers(factory riders) should ride in the rain and we shouldn't.
further more, the Pro's don't have to destroy themselves. If they had to be held back by someone other than themselves, there is something wrong with the picture.
My best laptime is slower than them crusing around the track, but does it REALLY mean that it is more dangerous for them? Not. Maybe I have a bike with no shocks, 3 year old brake pads, crappy tires and no sense at all. Thats why amatuers crash more. Not because of speed and laptime, but the discipline. If a pro feel dangered by the condition, but have to push beyond his limits nontheless, then I give them sympathy and again feel fortunate that I will never have to be a professional athelete of any sort...
I raced in the rain, because I chose to, and it was fun for me. I suppose I get more out of racing than a pro does.
Should CCS race at Daytona in the rain? Hmm...
As for it being more dangerous for AMA Pros vs you... It is more dangerous for a "pro" rider.
With your times at a 2:06, you have a larger margin of safety. With that time, you could whack it wide open in places and pretty much have no danger of falling down. However, to get faster, you're closing the margin of safety down to a limit, and potentially pushing beyond.
With track conditions awful, it wouldn't be safe. The reasonable margin of safety, what little there is in racing, would be completely gone. It would be dangerous.
Sure, racing is "dangerous", but there are aspects of safety. Racing is not like jumping off a building without a parachute. You do everything reasonable to reduce many aspects of risk.
I say let your concious be your guide. Thats Racing.
i'm with you dawn, we just got dumped on here in minny just under 6" where i am...i'm ready to kick
somebody's a-- !!! less than a month till 1st BHF.
bring on the heat.
benj.
Quotei'm with you dawn, we just got dumped on here in minny just under 6" where i am...i'm ready to kick
somebody's a-- !!! less than a month till 1st BHF.
bring on the heat.
benj.
Thank you!
At least I know I'm not the only one.
Dawn :)
Yeah, I'm 50 miles from BFR and it will be zero tonight. What's up? Global warming? I need to use some more Power Mist Racing Fuel to help out.
QuoteYeah, I'm 50 miles from BFR and it will be zero tonight. What's up? Global warming? I need to use some more Power Mist Racing Fuel to help out.
This is our forecast for tonight according to the National Weather Service:
...WIND CHILL ADVISORY FOR TONIGHT INTO EARLY SUNDAY MORNING...
NORTHWEST WINDS OF 10 TO 15 MPH...COMBINED WITH TEMPERATURES OF 5 BELOW TO 10 BELOW...WILL PRODUCE WIND CHILLS OF 20 TO 30 BELOW ZERO.
EXPOSED SKIN WILL EXPERIENCE FROSTBITE IN 30 MINUTES WITH THESE WIND CHILLS.
Do you want to trade?
Dawn :-/
Back to the rain ........ Nobody should have to race in the rain at Daytona. Period. Pro, expert, amateur, nobody.
QuoteEveryone will risk their lifes and safety. And it DOESN'T and SHOULDN'T mean the factory guys are worth more. That is the message that I have a problem with. I am worth more than many factory rider in many ways except for racing... does that mean I shouldn't ride in the rain?
Privateers have normal lives and contribute to our society in other ways. If that logic, the Professional Entertainers(factory riders) should ride in the rain and we shouldn't.
Well said.
QuoteThe AMA will race in the rain at other tracks
The real problem is that Daytona is not safe period. It's only a matter of time before someone gets decapitated on a guard rail or something rain or no rain.
The AMA should not race at Daytona at all if the track is not safe enough.