Has anyone done a good comparison between Michelin PRC's and the Dunlop D209's? There is about a $100 difference between the two compounds and I am seriously thinking of witching to Dunlops. I just want to get a good idea of what other CCS racers think of the Dunlop's especially for the Florida region. Thanks!
Juan
I have riden both, and pay the extra money for the Michelins. Probably a rider mistake, but the D209's put me on my ass(actually my head, but my wife says there isn't a discernable difference) the second time out on them.
Are you talking the american or great Britain 209 Dunlops?
I am talking about the American D209's. I didn't know there were different versions. I will buy these straight from the Florida region distributor. Does anyone else have any thoughts on these Dunlops.
jgalt187, is there a reason why you don't like them?
Hey Mr.Drucker,how've you been??You'd be the guy to ask....the new 209's vs the Britsh 209's.I was running the 190/60 rear last year and liked it,and was comfortable with the front's,what's the major difference with the new vs. old and how do you feel the new 190'55's will stack up against the 60's and will I have to adjust my ride height at all??Thank's in advance.I was running the Med.compound.
Jiggs!
In order for Drucker to give you a comprehensive evaluation he needs to know all the facts; you forgot to tell him you are a recent FS graduate.
May the speed be with you!
It was good seeing you and the guys at corse.
Hey bro!!Good seeing you guy's too....the only thing is Ron Hix was right,It'll take a while to adopt the material,so same ole' me for a while.Really interesting though.Great corse.
the uk dunlops are harder to get, more expensive, and well worth it. They have better traction and last longer, all sponsored riders use the uk tires by choice
Can you still get the UK tire's??I know race tire service doesn't have them...thank's
like i said they are difficult to get unless your a sponsored rider, they are around, you would have to talk to your rep and order then ahead of time
Quote from: Toves33 on January 28, 2008, 07:01:07 PM
jgalt187, is there a reason why you don't like them?
Yes, because I busted my ass the second time using them. lol To me it seemed that the rear didn't give any warning before it went. I could have just been ham fisting it that day, who knows. My buddy ran them without any issues. If you feel comfortable with them, then use them.
I run at the front in expert as racerhall does. THe uk dunlop 209gp has ridiculous grip, it lasts and its super predictable. LOVE DUNLOPS!!! I run in the florida region a bit....
Aren't both tires going to be replaced this year? I heard that Dunlop is coming out with the D211 and Michelin has a new PR, and that both will be even more expensive, like $400+.
Quote from: R1Racer99 on January 30, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
Aren't both tires going to be replaced this year? I heard that Dunlop is coming out with the D211 and Michelin has a new PR, and that both will be even more expensive, like $400+.
Michelin is likely to have 1 new front and 2 new rears. All coming out at different times. Hopefully we see the updated rear early in the year, the front not far behind and the new rear about halfway through the traditional season. But you never know with those dagom' french sum bitches.
yes dunlop are coming out with new tires for this year with a new tread pattern and some new sizing, thats all im allowed to say at this point
Hey Jigs two words for you (chen-shin) and comes with free bodywork. LOL
Oh yeah??How much??LOL! :spank:
What's the main difference between the D209 and the D209 GP? Is it the dual compound technology and price?
I ran the UK Dunlop NTec tires at Homestead this past weekend and I absolutley loved them. I dropped my times by three seconds. These tires stick very well and I am sure I will be using them for the rest of the season.
Quote from: jigs on January 29, 2008, 10:35:50 AM
Can you still get the UK tire's??I know race tire service doesn't have them...thank's
I just bought 5 sets of D209 NTec from RTS. I thought NTec was the UK tire...?!?!
I was told that there there were two NTEC compounds. One was from the UK and the other is from the USA. From my understanding the NTEC is a dual compound tire and the D209 was a one compound tire. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
The new PRC is out.
just talked to race tire services and they said that the new ntec tires will and are available all year, the 211 is the new tire that replaces the 209, either way they both are great tires and are available
you can contact race tire services for info and ordering or buying
1-800-772-tire
Money talks, dont buy cheap tires, dunlop or michelin, buy the good dunlops or the good michelins
i suggest the good dunlops
I tried the dunlops last year for two race weekends and concluded that going back to used pirellis was like night and day as far as control and confidence. I was not told by the distributor that the tires racerhall was using are different than the ones I was sold. I hadn't heard of the uk vs us tire issue before. None the less, I'll be on Pirelli's again this year - No surprises.
But... for someone else's sake, please explain how the new 211 Ntec relate in performance to last years 209 uk's vs us tires.
The more I think about this, the angrier I get. I'm CERTAIN that if I had been sold the correct tires that I would have been able to put up racerhall like lap times. Damn those shady distributors. :wtf:
Yeah right! not even I believe that one.
Right.......and maybe if Pirelli sold you the same tires Farrell was running you`d be able to turn RacerFarrell lap times! :jerkoff:
Ok...so can anyone tell us whether or not the NTec tires are US or UK or both or neither or maybe they're just retread Pirellis.
The N-Tecs are only UK made.
Quote from: mikendzel on February 14, 2008, 10:05:46 AM
The N-Tecs are only UK made.
Quote from: Tornado Bait on February 14, 2008, 09:54:59 AM
Ok...so can anyone tell us whether or not the NTec tires are US or UK or both or neither or maybe they're just retread Pirellis.
Brian posted the number for Steve Brubaker at Race Tire Services , call them and get the info you need.
1-800-772-tire
The new michelins are due to be out very soon. The coments about "i put em on and i fell down".. you did something wrong with your bike or your riding. I assure you it was not the tires fault. Different brands have different characteristics i will give you that.. try different brands as see what works for you, dont leave it to us to say what will work for you. THat being said.. get on the Michelin's .
Absolutely! Anytime you exceed the available traction, it is your fault. I wasn't trying to blame the tire, just stating that my perception was that there was less feel from the Dunlop rear. I also stated that my buddy uses them without issue.
Does anyone have a decent amount of experience using the ntec's vs. the normal (uk) 209's? I've heard that the setup with these tires is substantially different - more so than just accounting for the difference in diameter. I heard something about having to change spring rates - any truth to this?
If you are switching from the Michelins to the NTecs, you will definitely have to adjust the suspension. I don't know about the spring rates, but you will definitely have to account for the taller profile.
how do you tell the UK 'lops from the US ones?
I just scored two sets of them from someone in CT so I can try them out.
Quote from: gntbldr on March 02, 2008, 04:24:53 AM
how do you tell the UK 'lops from the US ones?
I just scored two sets of them from someone in CT so I can try them out.
Should be on the sidewall. "Made in Great Britain" if from the UK.
awesome. Thank you