We are currently putting together some dates to host some seminars for January and February. I would like to know what topics (racing and trackday related only) people would be interested in. Please Email me at Jim@4and6.com
Everyone wants to know about suspension and tires. Nitrogen in tires even.
Locally, CCS banquet on January 12 and the Three Hour ice race on the 19th are bad weekend dates.
I agree with Dave. Suspension and tires are popular topics. Other topics ideas: throttle control, braking & cornering, overall riding technique...
BTW: it was nice meeting you guys last weekend :cheers:
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For the record, not me. :biggrin:
cool name, however. Spyders rock.
I think that is Burrito.
But you're from L.A...
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(I'm milking that one 'cause I enjoyed it so much...LOL!)
Quote from: ronhix on December 27, 2007, 01:40:13 PM
I think that is Burrito.
Yup. :thumb:
another topic idea: gear ratios
Quote from: Super Dave on December 27, 2007, 01:52:58 PM
But you're from L.A...
:biggrin:
(I'm milking that one 'cause I enjoyed it so much...LOL!)
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Not many people can use that one Dave, I gotta ride it for all its worth!
I think an advanced seminar on data aquisition would be good too. Its getting more popular and I think its like anything else regarding technology, only a small percentage of its full capabilities are used.
Sean Wyatt would be the perfect speaker along with Jim.
Quote from: spyderchick on December 27, 2007, 01:32:14 PM
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For the record, not me. :biggrin:
cool name, however. Spyders rock.
Spyders scare me. I cant even watch that Netflix commercial with the giant spider crawling up the building. :cheers:
so what's nitrogen in the tires do?
Quote from: Court Jester on December 28, 2007, 04:44:48 PM
so what's nitrogen in the tires do?
Nitrogen maintains more consistant pressures as the tire heats up and cools down.
Or, as the tire heats up, pressure raises less...
So, in effect, you can start with a slightly higher pressure when cool and be at riding pressure sooner.
:banghead: there goes the seminar on nitrogen. Bar's open... :cheers:
Just what I was waiting for...................... Cap't and coke please
How about a seminar on Helium in tires. :biggrin:
teach me how to quit crashinhg
Nitrogen is passe
CO2 is the new shiznitz
Next question-What is the co2 advantage over nitrogen- and does anyone use this stuff ? :err:
Quote from: Noidly1 on December 28, 2007, 06:13:40 PM
Nitrogen maintains more consistant pressures as the tire heats up and cools down.
Or, as the tire heats up, pressure raises less...
So, in effect, you can start with a slightly higher pressure when cool and be at riding pressure sooner.
auh... makes sense. thank you
Teach me how to install some performance parts on an SV and charge lots of money!
You guys got that one down!
I can actually start a business out of doing that, with some help.....
As usual it doesn't take long before a moron to chime in. You try to do something nice for people on here and get bashed. So lets thank Steve for me cancelling any seminars. i can spend the time with my kid's at home instead.
Have a Happy New year!
Quote from: L8brake731 on December 31, 2007, 01:03:46 AM
Teach me how to install some performance parts on an SV and charge lots of money!
Do it yourself. Have fun.
Quote from: 1WITHOUT1 on December 29, 2007, 08:27:19 PM
teach me how to quit crashinhg
dont run into anything, dont let anything run into you, dont exceed the traction limitation of your tires for any given condition, dont fall off.
... that'll be $39.95. paypal to sfperformance@gmail.com
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I guess I would have to say "your welcome", if anyone wanted to step up and say that it saved them time and money.
I make no apologies for my comments; just have to say you guys have some brass balls to offer information to drum up business on this forum.
Don't challenge me on this, I can personally attest to your work.
FYI, you might want to keep your little sarcastic retort off the forum lest we need to name names, dates and prices.
Happy New Year!
Be my guest , Deep Throat . If you ever attended one of my Seminars i never even tried to drum up business i give out usefull information, There never is a charge when we have them. So name names , prices , whatever floats your boat. My record helping riders over the years is well documented in race wins and championships. So flame away , it's been done before by better morons than you. Have a Happy New Year!
Quote from: L8brake731 on December 31, 2007, 11:05:19 PM
I make no apologies for my comments; just have to say you guys have some brass balls to offer information to drum up business on this forum.
Don't challenge me on this, I can personally attest to your work.
FYI, you might want to keep your little sarcastic retort off the forum lest we need to name names, dates and prices.
I guess I can attest myself. I race and I'm on track A LOT. I don't seem to have problems other than the ones that I cause myself.
Before Ed, Shawn (at the time), and Jim ever did anything to my stuff, I'd known them for a long time. Longer than I have taught my schools even. I did go to one of Jim's seminars, and it was nice not to be sold anything. There were plenty of newer track day riders and racers there, and I would say that Jim recommended brake lines, maybe some springs, and good tires. The don't have stuff like that lying around a the shop, and that's stuff that a rider can, and should, know how to do themselves, if not now, at some point.
We talked a lot about geometry, springs, different styles of springs...rising rate and straight rate. I'm not sure how much money others are going to spend on experience, but, hey, a day where someone that has worked with riders on a lot of levels, with a long list of equipment, even with prototype production development parts...
And it's free? Shit, even if someone knew everything, it would still be valuable to listen. It would either reinforce what you know, develop new lines of thought, or you just would have spent time with other racers and track day riders in the late part of the off season.
Happy New Year!
Saturday the 18th would be great, Jim. I know I'll be there if at all possible. I'm still not finished learning.
Got to wonder why someone so giving on "Free information" would be the subject of such flaming BEFORE by better morons than me? Or not.
BTW; nice save Dave.
you can't learn everything yourself. If you only learn one thing from one person it is worth it to me. If someone is willing to talk
i would be willing to listen.
Quote from: Super Dave on January 01, 2008, 09:58:51 AM
I'm still not finished learning.
Hear, hear, Dave's correct. Anytime that you can put yourself into a learning environment (and learning mode) you should benefit.
To have the chance to pick the brain of someone of the caliber and experience of Jim Rashid is an opportunity which I would definitely avail myself of (of course I live in Kansas City and getting anyone to come out here is a challenge!).
I for one cheer Jim and 4&6 for wanting to do seminars. If "just a guy racer" knows everything already, and doesnt think he can learn anything from a pro, then sit home. Why ruin it for the others? There are many riders/racers that want to learn more about their bike. You sink thousands of dollars into these things and I would doubt if more than a small percentage of us actually get 100% out of what we can do to our bikes.
I have attended several shop run seminars, with Super Dave as a speaker (Corse) and never had it be a sales pitch. It was all on the level information.
And if "just a guy racer" knew everything, why is he not riding or wrenching at an AMA level like Jim is?
"Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
Doc
I will CCP this to your email as well, But what I think allot of ppl, including me need help with is "When my bike is doing this, I should go this direction with my suspension settings and see if it gets better or worse" coupled with riding technique. I cant count the hours spent bench racing on this topic with no facts to back them or knowledgeable person to offer input.
What do ya think?
Looking forward to the seminar, whatever it turns out to be!
Eddie
I'll be there if I can make it out .... Let me know....
Quote from: L8brake731 on December 31, 2007, 01:03:46 AM
Teach me how to install some performance parts on an SV and charge lots of money!
You guys got that one down!
I can actually start a business out of doing that, with some help.....
I recently met Jim through a referral from a friend and he was all about keeping the parts I don't need to waste money on & focus on the little inexpensive things, things that cant be bought, borrowed or stolen. Only learned from people like Jim with 30+ years of riding and racing experience. For the work I am having done there his labor rates and parts pricing were MORE than reasonable and the education I have received thus far from has been nothing short of phenomenal & worth more than what I am paying BEFORE the work. It's awesome to have someone with as much knowledge as Jim nearby and I for one am honored to have my bike at his shop and am looking forward to anything further Jim offers to teach me.
Jim is not a "parts pusher" He is passionate about racing and wants to share it....not everyone was raised to share I guess.
The First Seminar date will be Saturday January 26th at 11am.
Hey i'm up to 74 smites, I like that number it was Todd Harringtons race number
Don't sweat the smites Jim, I already got 994 smites and I just started posting a couple weeks ago...and I haven't even been trying! Just think what I could do if I actually applied myself a little!! :biggrin:
Quote from: fourandsix on January 04, 2008, 04:48:28 PM
The First Seminar date will be Saturday January 26th at 11am.
Hey i'm up to 74 smites, I like that number it was Todd Harringtons race number
DUDE! NO ONE even knows who Todd is !! Other than me and Super D......and we`re OLD (well, Dave LOOKS old anyway!)
UT OHHHhhhhhhh, wifes birthday weekend she's gonna be pissed! Oh well, its easier to get forgiveness then permission....see you there! :cheers:
Does she say that you never take her anywhere?
Bring her along.
Quote from: Super Dave on January 05, 2008, 08:27:38 AM
Does she say that you never take her anywhere?
Bring her along.
LOL! Build it up like its gonna be a big cool surprise for her and then act disappointed when she has a poopy face cuz she would rather be on a shopping spree at woodfield? I can make that work ~Laughs~ Thanks Dave!
Naw, but seriously, I might...she does ride a Daytona 650, shes just scared of the track....ANNNNnnndd thats ok, cuz I can hardly afford me doing it let alone two of us!
Quote from: fourandsix on January 01, 2008, 12:21:48 AM
So flame away , it's been done before by better morons than you. Have a Happy New Year!
You gonna give a GMD Computrak demo?
Hey now Tommy...a former racer here in my hometown, Thane Burnight, is always talking about this Tod Harrington guy. Sounds like a ton of talent that never followed through.
Well, if winning an AMA Supersport race isn't following though...
so what is it going to be about and where
i would like to hear about data aquisition
Quote from: Super Dave on January 10, 2008, 07:30:53 AM
Well, if winning an AMA Supersport race isn't following though...
At Road America, I was there!
It must have been 1996 because it was the summer before my senior year.
If I remember correctly he got caught cheating later that season.
Didn't he get a ride with Muzzy after that?
Why in the world would anyone want to go to a FREE seminar put on by Jim? I mean, why learn something from someone who knows for free when you can get all of the information you need from reading stuff on the internet!? Doesn't everyone know that if it's in writing it means that it's true? :rollseyes:
Oh, and not to date myself, but I remember Todd Harrington as well. He was kinda quick...
Quote from: JBraun on January 10, 2008, 10:17:20 AM
At Road America, I was there!
It must have been 1996 because it was the summer before my senior year.
If I remember correctly he got caught cheating later that season.
Didn't he get a ride with Muzzy after that?
I thought it was in '98 on the new generation 6R, but I can't remember. I believe the problem later was appealed. Yeah, Todd rode for Muzzy after that. Didn't end up the same as his previous year.
Hey guys, for $80 a month, I'll run hater ads for you.
Remember to bring a pen and paper !
What are the topics going to be and I see it starts at 11 till ....
Directions to the new shop?
Quote from: Super Dave on January 10, 2008, 10:24:15 AM
I thought it was in '98 on the new generation 6R, but I can't remember. I believe the problem later was appealed. Yeah, Todd rode for Muzzy after that. Didn't end up the same as his previous year.
Todd raced for Muzzy in 1997. He had a great season in 1996 with 4&6. If I remember right he had some broken bones in his wrist in '97 that were not detected until late in the season that gave him problems.
If Chicago wasn't 8 hours away I'd go...anyway we've got too many sheep around here to leave though...
Location?
What is the basic skill set assumed? Hard core racer, will the trackday rider be overwhelmed?
I vote for suspension setup as a topic.
The last one I was at with Jim had AMA road racers and guys that were going to be new track day riders.
Location?
http://4and6.com/site/contact.aspx
Attard has been steadily getting better with each round and scored a season best fifth at Pikes Peak. His Attack Kawasaki has the kind of power that could put him in a real position to win at Road America. If he does he would be the first privateer rider to win the race since Todd Harrington did it on a Kawasaki in 1996. (taken from roadracing world)
I believe I was there that day.
Cheez.
Quote from: Jeff on January 10, 2008, 06:22:57 PM
Hey guys, for $80 a month, I'll run hater ads for you.
Wow, that's Cheap!
My cable bill is more than that a month. Hey......if I cancel my cable can I run a comcast hater ad? :biggrin:
Bump for the seminar today at 11:00!
4&6
2448 E OAKTON ST
ARLINGTON HEIGHTS,IL 60005
Hope to meet a few of you there!
Eddie
I had a good time Saturday..... As always - Jim was a comedian - and I thought there was a lot of valuable information for everyone..... I'm willing to bet everyone walked away having learned at least one thing they didn't know before.... Even if it was only that I went through 7 sets of boots last season :)
Quote from: SCOTTY727 on January 28, 2008, 01:40:36 AM
Even if it was only that I went through 7 sets of boobs last season :)
Fixed it for ya!! :thumb: (sorry Meghan! :biggrin: )
Quote from: Burt Munro on January 28, 2008, 01:50:43 PM
Fixed it for ya!! :thumb: (sorry Meghan! :biggrin: )
Opps - Mind must have been somewhere else :)
Thanks Tho