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Title: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Speedballer347 on October 07, 2007, 10:55:37 PM
Like to get a new set, mine are way heavy and stiff.  Lot of padding, but thick and wear me out as soon as I get them on.

My priorities are lightweight/comfort and crash-protection.  I do not crash very often (knock on wood) so having a suit last through 30 crashes is not that high on my list.
Would also like to have a good selection on graphics.
Do not want Kangeroo, even though it is lighter.  I do want a lightweight suit though. Lightweight/flexibility is prolly my very top priority.

The two brands I am looking at is either a custom XES suit from Moto-Heaven or RS Taichi.

Thanks for any comments/suggestions.  This is the last suit I will ever get, so I want to make the right decision.
I am planning to order it after Xmas, for 2008 season.
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Super Dave on October 08, 2007, 07:54:37 AM
Well, first, wearing a suit a lot, and wearing it a lot and sweating in it, causes the material to deteriorate.  So, potentially, I'm gonna say that looking for the last suit you'll ever buy might be shooting at a target that doesn't exist, unless you're just not going to wear it more than some special occasions.

Comfort can usually come from just being ordered to fit you rather than off the rack. 

I'm older and I've done this for a long, long time, and I need my life to be easy.  Comfort is important to me.  Protection is paramount.  My selection is different than yours, but my leather choice isn't light.  It doesn't affect my performance even in hot conditions on track or keeping them on, and getting out of them easily, off track.

Alexa will surely chime in.

Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: racerhall on October 08, 2007, 09:40:46 AM
get a komodo suit
they make them custom to size and color and are very durable and can put on all logos
tell lee i sent you and maybe he will give you a deal
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: spyderchick on October 08, 2007, 10:16:39 AM
I've PM'd ya.
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: mikendzel on October 08, 2007, 02:47:55 PM
Dainese has the D-Stone fabric that's lighter than leather and breathes very well....
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: BigJerm7 on October 08, 2007, 02:59:23 PM
+1 on komodo.  they are an up and coming company and support racers better than any company i have seen.  ty howard and troy green wear them and they won the overall moto-st championship.  do some research on them and don't rule them out.
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Super Dave on October 08, 2007, 03:12:24 PM
Ok, if everyone it going to wave a flag, I'll do it too.

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.visionsportsridingschools.com%2Fimages%2F235_235_Vanson.jpg&hash=2c0c5751051d5012fc028ea4211cd391781c5a0f) (http://www.vansonleathers.com)

I wear 'em, the Wood brothers wear 'em, the Hayden's wore them before big contracts came...

Yeah, I crash well.  But I have help. 

I've seen riders buy other leathers, fall down, and then look at their leathers...after one crash and say, "I guess I'm another guy that's thinking, 'I shoulda bought Vansons.'"

Good luck!
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Speedballer347 on October 08, 2007, 03:35:20 PM
Thanks for all the info and advice, everyone!

Dave, I know you are right as far as Vansens....I know it is best protection and longest lasting.  I could be way wrong, but I thought I remembered them being thicker/heavier than I really wanted.  I'll take a look at R1owner Scott's Vansens. 
I am so out of shape, that my heavier/thicker/stiffer leathers are knocking my energy for a loop.  They are Bonsacks old leathers, and are so old they will stand up by themselves, like a manequin(sp) :)
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Super Dave on October 08, 2007, 03:53:16 PM
Maybe Todd's got bad karma in those...LOL!

Yeah, they are thickier, which is heavier...

But how much, really?  Stop eating bread or something and you'll lose the body weight that is the difference in the leathers.  Might make you feel better anyway.

I still have my leathers from '94.  They are really spent, but nothing else would have been through so much.  I don't think most manufactuers are figuring out how to make better cows, but they are figuring out how to use less of it.  Lower cost leathers has caused more leather sales, but I find the durability of some of those leathers to be appalling compared to what was available even from the same manufacturers less than ten years ago. 

You've got choices. 
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Speedballer347 on October 08, 2007, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: Super Dave on October 08, 2007, 03:53:16 PM
Stop eating bread or something and you'll lose the body weight that is the difference in the leathers.  Might make you feel better anyway.

I need to stop eating a lot more than bread to knock this 30 lbs of fat off my poor body  ::)   :thumb:
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Super Dave on October 08, 2007, 05:20:36 PM
Hey, I'm down 13 because I know what my allergies are.  You can do five.   :jerkoff: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: gonecrazy on October 08, 2007, 09:46:35 PM
Hey baller I know of a very intresting shop downtown that custom makes leathers, i take mine there for repairs, but I wouldnt go there just for fun unless you got a steel plate rivited to your azz
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: resurection on October 08, 2007, 10:19:54 PM
Does bread have that much affect ?
On second thought I think I may have bread habit.
Does pizza dough count,Beef sandwiches,biscuts and gravy.
Dam!
Every thing I ate this week had bread with it.
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: spyderchick on October 09, 2007, 09:33:14 AM
Quote from: resurrection on October 08, 2007, 10:19:54 PM
Does bread have that much affect ?
On second thought I think I may have bread habit.
Does pizza dough count,Beef sandwiches,biscuts and gravy.
Dam!
Every thing I ate this week had bread with it.

Well, SD's doctor has diagnosed him with an allergy. But you are eating high glycemic foods, which have a profound affect on the body.

Flour is a carbohydrate which basically turns to sugar in your blood stream. Too much sugar promotes inflammation in all the body's tissue systems, including your blood vessels. It also causes all of the organs to work harder, stressing the body further.

The American diet is high in empty calories and low in nutrients, so we have a higher incidence if high blood pressure, diabetes, and heart disease. We have a lot of processed sugars, foods that have been striped of vitamins and minerals then re manufactured, and fats that are bad for you in our diet. (Think fast food and convenience foods)

It's like your bike, bad fuel in, poor performance. Good fuel in, good tuning of all the components, much improved performance. 
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: vosnick52 on October 16, 2007, 10:43:16 AM
KOMODO   :thumb:
Incredible suits and customer service.
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: vnvbandit on October 16, 2007, 04:56:51 PM
I have had  ::)Alpinestars and I like them. I have crashed once and they worked great! They are ready for another crash, BUT I'M NOT!!!!
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: steelcityracer on October 16, 2007, 09:55:59 PM
I have had: alpinestars-good  motogp-bad

I plan on getting komodo over the winter since I have heard nothing but good things about them.  I have seen too much road rash from crashes where the rider was wearing motogp ... the knee area seems to be particularly weak..... 
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Speedballer347 on October 17, 2007, 07:49:04 PM
Lot of good replies about komodo.

I'm going to look into the XES, Vansons, and komodo.  Prolly get one of the three.
Thanks everyone
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: stk0308 on October 17, 2007, 07:58:53 PM
I'm curious, why no Kangeroo?
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Speedballer347 on October 17, 2007, 08:41:39 PM
Cause I like Kangaroos  8)

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boreme.com%2Fmedia%2Fyr2003%2Fi_kangaroo.jpg&hash=633344253886a2991b3e89ce9eb6a7d3a6fdb8a8)
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: Noidly1 on October 18, 2007, 01:10:04 AM
Don't know about anyone else but I like my Tecnik's.
Got 'em for $500 bucks at Jan's County MC parts in Hazelwood.
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: proechel539 on October 18, 2007, 08:45:35 AM
HELIMONT great protection, craftsmanship, and wear like iron. crash tested twice and only had scuffs.
Title: Re: Recommendations on new leathers?
Post by: wolf44 on October 18, 2007, 11:47:57 AM
I've crash tested Syed's and the top of the line AGV products this year and they both held up great.  I like the armour in teh syed's better than the AGV but the AGV stuff will get upgraded this winter.