In a mailing from Fusa this winter,there was a comment on a rule change, saying that lite weight multi's can only be up to 400cc ,as per the fzr 400.But what about the 'fz' 600 which is a two valver?The fz was eligible in '02.They stated displacement but made no comment on anything else.I'm I missing something here or what?Any info (good/reliable info) would be appreciated.
Ray
Go back to the CCS website and check out the 2003 rulebook. You should be able to get your answer there.
As found in the 2003 rule book:
LIGHTWEIGHT SPORTSMAN (Amateur & Expert Divisions)
Single cylinder, unlimited displacement, production frame
Single cylinder, up to 500cc, unlimited frame
Two stroke, liquid cooled, up to 410cc
Two stroke, air cooled, up to 550cc
Twin cylinder, air cooled, non-desmodromic valves up to 700cc
Twin cylinder, air cooled, desmodromic valves, up to 650cc
Twin cylinder, air cooled, 2 valve, push rod, up to 895cc
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 515cc
Four cylinder, air cooled, 2 valve, up to 625cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up 410cc
NOTE: Ducati/Bimota/BMW Supermono, Woods Rotax, Yamaha TZR, Honda NSR & Aprilia RS machines are
excluded from this class.
MIDDLEWEIGHT SPORTSMAN (Amateur & Expert Divisions)
Single cylinder, unlimited displacement, unlimited frame
Two stroke, liquid cooled, up to 515cc
Two stroke, air cooled, unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, air cooled, non-desmodromic valves up to 900cc
Twin cylinder, air cooled, desmodromic valves, up to 805cc
Twin cylinder, air cooled, 2 valve, push rod, up to 1050cc
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, pre-1999 model year, up to 700cc
Three cylinder, non-fuel injected, up to 900cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, pre-1987 model year, up to 570cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, 1987 to 1992 model year, up to 500cc
Four cylinder, air cooled, up to 750cc
Harley-Davidson Sportsters of unlimited displacement
NOTE: Ducati/Bimota/BMW Supermono & Woods Rotax machines are excluded from this class.
THUNDERBIKE (Amateur and Expert)
Single cylinder, Unlimited displacement
Two stroke, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, air cooled, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 3 or less valves per cylinder, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 4 valve per cylinder, non-desmodromic valves, up to 800cc
Three cylinder, non-fuel injected, up to 1200cc
Four cylinder, air-cooled, up to 1200cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, 1990 to 1992 model year, up to 650cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled (oil or water), pre-1990 model year, up to 860cc
All air-cooled, 2-valve, unlimited displacement
Dawn....
I know your assistance is greatly appreciated...but...as that all you do is cut and past all day?
Mike
;D
QuoteDawn....
I know your assistance is greatly appreciated...but...as that all you do is cut and past all day?
Mike
;D
Sometimes....
I'm just here to help.
Dawn ;D
P.S. I sent you an e-mail ;)
I just noticed the new XB9R and pre99 SV's are legal for Middleweight Sportsman. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that may be real hard on everybody else. I guess if it get's out of hand they can fix it mid season.
QuoteI just noticed the new XB9R and pre99 SV's are legal for Middleweight Sportsman. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that may be real hard on everybody else. I guess if it get's out of hand they can fix it mid season.
The first model year for the SV's were 1999.
I do agree on the XB9R, CCS may need to address this in the future.
Dawn :)
XB9R in Lightweight Supersport as well?
QuoteXB9R in Lightweight Supersport as well?
This is what is eligible:
LIGHTWEIGHT SUPERSPORT (Amateur & Expert Divisions)
Single cylinder, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled 2-stroke, up to 450cc
Two stroke, air cooled, Unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 675cc
Twin cylinder, air cooled, up to 805cc
Twin cylinder, push-rod, up to 1000cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 450cc
Four cylinder, air cooled, 2 valve, up to 675cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, pre-1987 model year, up to 565cc
Harley-Davidson Sportsters of unlimited displacement
NOTE: Ducati/Bimota/BMW Supermono/Woods Rotax are excluded.
What motor does the XB9R have?
Dawn :-/
Aaahhhh I knew I had the specs somewhere.
2003 Buell XB9S
Engine: Air cooled, Four Stroke, 45 degree V-Twin
Displacement: 984 cc
Bore & Stroke: 3.5 x 3.125 in./ 88.9 x 79.38 mm
Power: 73.8 HP @ 7200 rpm / Torque 58.6 ft-lb @ 5500 rpm
Gearbox: 5 speed constant mesh
Carburetion: 45 mm downdraft DDFI fuel injection
Ignition: CDI
Frame: Aluminum Frame with Uniplanar powertrain vibration isolation system
Front Suspension: Showa® inverted fork with adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload
Rear suspension: Showa shock absorber with adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload
Front Brakes: ZTL type brake, 375 mm stainless steel floating rotor, 6 piston caliper
Rear Brakes: 240 mm stainless steel rotor, single piston floating caliper
Wheels: 6 spoke cast, 3.5x17; Stardust Silver finish
Front tire: Dunlop® D207 FY 120/70 ZR17
Rear Tire: Dunlop D 207 U 180/55 ZR17
Wheelbase: 52 inches
Rake and Trail 21 degree / 3.3 in./83 mm
Weight: Dry weight 385 lb/ 175 kg
Fuel Capacity: 3.7 Gal./14 liters
Seat Height: 30.1 in./ 765 mm
Colors: Midnight Black, Sunfire Yellow
Warranty: 1 Year, unlimited mileage warranty (US)
MSRP: $9,995
4 Stroke, 45_ V-twin Air cooled, Pushrod-operated overhead valves with hydraulic self-adjusting lifters, two valves per cylinder, Dry sump, Dynamic Digital Fuel Injection (DDFI), Inductive, Free-Breathing 2 into 1 collector, Ram Air Intake
So based on the above information, it appears that it would qualify for LWSS.
Dawn
Oh it's got push-rod's, anything else would be how should I say "modern". There I knew I could be polite about it.
QuoteOh it's got push-rod's, anything else would be how should I say "modern". There I knew I could be polite about it.
LOL!!!!
But there are not too many out there that can plunk $10,000 down for the bike plus another $1300.00 for the chain conversion plus.....
Dawn :)
Four cylinder, liquid cooled (oil or water), pre-1990 model year, up to 860cc
Hmmmm. Take a 1988 FZR400 frame, use the YZF bore with the FZR6 stroke, Carillo rods, 660cc, add flatslides and fuel.....
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hey! A certian cute little girl with tatoos told me last weekend that my FZR last year was rumored to have been making 126HP!!! That really makes me proud, because it means that people were so stunned by my incredible riding that they were guessing me 40 extra HP! Dang I'm good!
(Just for the record, according to the FZR mailing list, the best 560cc motor ever dynoed made 94 HP. I lacked the headwork, the high compression pistons, and the Newtec, but I'm such a good mechanic that I could build a 126HP motor on a card table at Blackhawk in the middle of the night out of junkyard parts!)
LOL. But that's exactly how Mike Lower built that 94 HP FZR. I't's also how he won 9 regional lightweight championships in one year BEK. (before Ed Key)
Spec...LOL!
http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/modelspecs.html
My Lightweight Sportsman bike's original specs are listed under column "H1". ;D
Quote I lacked the headwork, the high compression pistons, and the Newtec
Yeah, but the 4-stroke to 2-stroke conversion you perfomed in that 400 block was a stroke of genius, pun intended! :)
Dave if you can get that ol' triple to turn like a XB9R I'll be VERY impressed, just don't run over them on the straight. Be careful on that thing, Kamakasi riders earned their reputation.
I think the rules were intended for older sportsters and Super deep thi... uh, jus hangin on white knuckle Dave.:)
I am making the bike to scare people... ;D
So, when I pass around the outside, don't crash in amazement! 8)