Just got out of a little conversation with my boss. Apparently someone complained to HR that I come in early, and leave late ::)
The person who ratted on me, was in trouble for the exact same thing, so I guess they thought it would be great to try and drag someone else down with them. I have no enemies here (so I thought)
This sucks, I have been with this company for 3 years and really work hard. I work from home afterhours a lot and always check work email. I also travel sometimes for them, use my own personal phone and never ask for a dime. I don't even ask for comp time for all the hours I spend waiting in the airport. I have gotten all great reviews here too, not one bad one. I always get thank yous from my boss for going the extra mile.
The worst part is I put in a lot of hours while at home. But now my boss is worried about making the whole group look "bad" because of this issue HR brought up. So I had to have this talk with him. This is the first time I've needed to have a "talk" here too. So I told him I will come in at 8 and leave at 5 and work standard hours. What I didn't tell him is that I will now NOT be putting in extra (free) hours at home. Work will stay at work. If they could step back and see the big picture, they would see what they're doing is counter-productive.
It just sucks that someone else can disrupt your life, when you really have been doing nothing wrong. More reasons to go racing I guess. I have a house, car payment and live by myself. So when work issues like this comes up, it really gets stressful.
Hourly or Salary? Same for the "rat"? Why does your company dislike deticated employees?
I tell my team (10) of them. I don't care if you come in at 6 am or 8 am, but I need you to work on average of 45 hrs per week and more if you work load needs it. Don't come in early or stay late if you don't need to. I tell them that I'll pay overtime if it's needed but I won't give time away.
Was this person doing abusive things while coming in early/late?
I'm salary, so is the person that got the talking to last week.
They were supposedly "working from home" a lot. Working from home is allowed here for certain positions. However, when someone tried to reach this person, they were not available. This person isn't even in my group by the way. They were basically saying they were working, and just goofing off more than likely.
So because of their stupidity, a magnifying glass is being applied to other groups here. And this person took it upon themselves to tell HR I leave early. Hell, even my boss said today (during the talk) that I always get my work done.
Also may I state that our HR person loves to flex their muscles for no reason. I guess I am at the receiving end of this. Just sucks I will be watched from now on. Not a good feeling. Feel like I am back working for the government
HR is not your friend in any company, especially large ones. Tell them as little a legally possible.
As far as work goes, sounds like you are a dedicated, conscientious worker, and those are in short supply lately. Go find a position with another firm that will appreciate those qualities.
Dude don't loose sleep over it. I am like you, a workaholic. My platoon Sergeant calls me his pitbull because I come in on my days off and try and get stuff done. In the military micro managing is part of the job and it seems it is part of yours. The next time your boss ask why something wasn't done just tell him that there is not enough work hours in the day and you will take care of it tomarrow.
I would have your boss confront HR for you. If you boss truely appreciates you, they would have your back.
I know with my "kids", I let them know when the screwed up but I also make sure they know I got their back when I need to.
Davidv, you hit it right on the head bro when you said its more reasons to go racing. Cause micro-managing paper-pushers don't got the stomach to grid. So we can find a refuge! It seems like in every office there is always someone who stirs the pot, spreads the gossip, tries to kiss up or is just plain jealous. I know in mine its that way, and we got guns! I think you will find that your reputation is well respected by those whose opinions matter, you sound like a dedicated employee. The troublemakers and weak leaders will soon find something else to spas about, while you are burning off stress in turn 10.
thanks guys, thanks for the support. I guess no matter where you go, you have to put up with the same BS. There will always be an asshole, there will always be people who try and make you fail etc. Kind of sucks that people are so miserable that they try and ruin other people's lives, but what are you going to do
Here's to dropping green flags
Quote from: DavidV on September 03, 2007, 04:50:00 PM
thanks guys, thanks for the support. I guess no matter where you go, you have to put up with the same BS. There will always be an asshole, there will always be people who try and make you fail etc. Kind of sucks that people are so miserable that they try and ruin other people's lives, but what are you going to do
Here's to dropping green flags
Pretty much puts things in perspective for me. You're going to have to deal with unfortunate things wherever you work. I probably don't have it as bad as I thought.
I cant figure out why you're upset that you can't work for free! If it will make you happy I have a garage that needs a good cleaning. Heck I'll even let you do it for free! Then again it may be better for you to just go racing. I have never been an advocate of bringing work to the house especially if I'm not on the clock. The only people that get something for free is a racer that needs some help puttin together a wadded bike, other than that you gotta pay for work. Maybe my priorities are screwed up but it sounds like they did you a favor.
you know how to work on big trucks and heavy equipment? I wish I had your bosses problem I got one good man and 3 slugs.watch American body shop on comedy channel that's my shop half the time (wife still dosen't see the humor in it) tell your boss to shut up and eat.
I just think it's nice to know that there are people out there WILLING to work instead of sitting on their asses. Good luck with your situation though. Hope it works out in your favor.
I had that same problem... You need a new job. Seriously...
my problem was quite similar (you do too much work, nobody else gets a chance to, at your level you should be letting others do this, etc etc etc). Several companies and positions later, I'm quite content to be middle-management and not quite so die-hard to my position.
I get my job done, and do it very well. I put in extra when I need to, but I also can disconnect from it in a second and leave it behind. If the job routinely takes more than 40 hours a week for one person, the company needs more people...
thanks guys. Yea I guess it was stupid of me to work from home for free. I thought they would have appreciated it and valued me as an employee, but I guess no good deed goes unpunished.
I am looking to move around December/January. I will probably move out of state, I've been at this job for 3 years and feel like it is time to move on. Right now I work around 45hrs a week
Here's a rhetorical question for you...What do you do when you find yourself working in a department whose only job requirements are that you have a pulse and you're breathing?
This sounds crazy but at work we had a slow period and the boss still had us working O.T.
And with little or nothing to do so I started working 8hr days ,because I had work @ home .
When working 8hrs the afternoon break is eliminated .
Well I was taking one anyway ,A coworker tattled on me ,when the boss confronted me he told me he would rather pay me time and a half with me taking a break than listen to the tattletail.
He would rather pay me 50$for 45min.than listen to that cry baby.
Your boss may be doing his best to deal with stress created by crying coworkers!!
Quote from: barb_arah on September 20, 2007, 09:19:02 PM
What do you do when you find yourself working in a department whose only job requirements are that you have a pulse and you're breathing?
ummm.... Stash a portable defibrillator in your backpack and tuck an oxygen tank under your arm????
Quote from: Burt Munro on September 20, 2007, 09:43:53 PM
ummm.... Stash a portable defibrillator in your backpack and tuck an oxygen tank under your arm????
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Good one.
Hard to think that I would ever support authority, but... I can see your boss' point, though I wouldn't loss any sleep over it if I where you. Most companies worry as much about Workers Rights issues and Wrongful termination issues more than, or as much as anything else going on in the company. And stuff like that is 100% HR's responsibility. Basically, if the person in question where to be terminated and wanted unemployment or wanted to try to push a wrongful termination case in court, this would come up and the company would have to show that they took at least some interest to investigate the issue with other team members. If they couldn't do that then the terminated employee would have proof that the company did not treat issues with this person fairly or equally in respect to other team members. That doesn't mean you have to solve every issue the same way, but they should be given equal documented attention and resolved by the investigation's findings. My number one question when dealing with other people is "How could a lawyer use this?".
The law is in place for a very good reason. God, I can't believe I just said that. But if things are as you explained them, your boss likely talked to you because he HAD to and not because he felt like he had to alleviate a problem. Every half-wit manager knows that when a bad employee is caught and cornered the first thing they do is point their finger to divert attention away from themselves.
Your boss and the company are likely just covering their own butt's just in case the other team members has to be let go. I wouldn't lose a second's sleep over it.
Ya that's how I saw my issue .
The boss had to say something or he may be accused of showing favoritism
Over the years I have become tunned in on the signs of micromanaging. I keep my resume updated for just such upcoming nightmares. The first signs at a larger company was training my new boss as to what I do. At the smaller end was finding the locks had changed.
When projects at work are getting started the design engineer who's a great guy and does the the job of being younger bro. to the boss.
He's really the boss too.
He can't keep his nose out of my job !When it's crunch time and things all start coming together I think it's Q to run back to design work.
And leave me to finish building the mold.
Work should stay at work, especially if you've got a family. Your priorities are out of whack.
I do however understand your point of view. You should be rewarded for going the extra mile, not chastised.
I think work sucks so we can appreciate the weekends.
Most of us work so we can afford the weekend.And if you still can't afford the weekend that really sucks!
I have to go alone with this on. I was in your situation, and stuck it out for a long time. It did'nt get any better for my side. The end result; I am no longer with that company, and they hired Three people to do the same job when The shit hit the fan. Guess what I have to say about that?
Quote from: Jeff on September 04, 2007, 03:58:28 PM
I had that same problem... You need a new job. Seriously...
my problem was quite similar (you do too much work, nobody else gets a chance to, at your level you should be letting others do this, etc etc etc). Several companies and positions later, I'm quite content to be middle-management and not quite so die-hard to my position.
I get my job done, and do it very well. I put in extra when I need to, but I also can disconnect from it in a second and leave it behind. If the job routinely takes more than 40 hours a week for one person, the company needs more people...