That's the sentiment of so many people, and I can understand why and totally agree with them.
(enter rant mode)
This Saturday afternoon, I had to pick up a guest from O'Hare. On my way back North, 294 to 94, I followed a group of 6 complete ASSHATS on the freeway who spent 30 miles spread out across all 3 northbound lanes, cranking standup wheelies at 75mph.
Every time they'd do it, the cars behind them would jack the brakes and it made a mess out of things.
First time, I let it go.. Second time, I got a little pissed.. 3rd time, I hit 9-1-1.
Unfortunately I wasn't around to enjoy the cops pull them over and harrass the ever loving shit out of them (which they'd certainly whine about later on an internet forum). It completely disgusted me to be in any way/shape/form associated with sportbikes.
They have no clue how they messed up traffic behind them and put EVERYONE on that road in danger from their own idiocy. If you want to hoist wheelies, have at it!!! Just don't do it on the F**KING freeway! And if you happen to know who this was, let them know exactly how effed up it was.
And before you go bitching about me calling the cops, how about I show up to your kids birthday party with 6 friends and start playing with loaded weapons. Tell me how comfortable you're gonna be...
Jeff - I've got your 6 on this one and entirely support what you did. Effin idiots put everybody at risk and give every other motorcycle rider a bad name. I hope you were able to give the police the tag numbers from the bikes as well as very good descriptions.
George
Quote from: Jeff on August 13, 2007, 10:35:54 AM
That's the sentiment of so many people, and I can understand why and totally agree with them.
(enter rant mode)
This Saturday afternoon, I had to pick up a guest from O'Hare. On my way back North, 294 to 94, I followed a group of 6 complete ASSHATS on the freeway who spent 30 miles spread out across all 3 northbound lanes, cranking standup wheelies at 75mph.
Every time they'd do it, the cars behind them would jack the brakes and it made a mess out of things.
First time, I let it go.. Second time, I got a little pissed.. 3rd time, I hit 9-1-1.
Unfortunately I wasn't around to enjoy the cops pull them over and harrass the ever loving shit out of them (which they'd certainly whine about later on an internet forum). It completely disgusted me to be in any way/shape/form associated with sportbikes.
They have no clue how they messed up traffic behind them and put EVERYONE on that road in danger from their own idiocy. If you want to hoist wheelies, have at it!!! Just don't do it on the F**KING freeway! And if you happen to know who this was, let them know exactly how effed up it was.
And before you go bitching about me calling the cops, how about I show up to your kids birthday party with 6 friends and start playing with loaded weapons. Tell me how comfortable you're gonna be...
Don't blame the bike, it is the ass that is riding it that needs killing!!!!
I didn't get close enough to them to read a plate. None of them were mounted in a visible location anyhow.
Yeah, Guy, you're right, it's not the bike at all. The problem is that assholes like this change the views of EVERYONE that's around them, and then wonder why people have no tolerance for them...
I get even more insensed because I may have taught some of these idiots the MSF BRC/MRC rider classes and they're well on their way to worstening statistics. Can you spell natural selection? The interesting thing is that if you got any one of these Awps on the track, they'd be the ones ripping past you on the straights and parking on the corners.
that's what i was out doing sunday on back country roads. i didn't think wheelies where that big of a deal.
Jeff -
Your an asshat.
For waiting until the 3rd time it happened to call.
This is another reason I don't ride a sportbike on the street anymore.
Quote from: Court Jester on August 13, 2007, 12:40:42 PM
that's what i was out doing sunday on back country roads. i didn't think wheelies where that big of a deal.
On a back country road or some parking lot somewhere, it's not a problem in my book. On a freaking chicago interstate it's a huge issue... Nobody in a car knows how to react when somebody does that on a bike and so their natural reaction is to hit the brakes. It can and does get dangerous quick. Not to mention if/when somebody goes down, there's a chain reaction accident waiting to happen.
And I'm not talking a little front wheel air on the on-ramp. I'm talking stand on the seat, standups for 20 - 30 seconds at a time, sit on the tank and crank one out, just general stupid shit...
It really boils down to endangering other people for your own thrills. Wheelies on back roads or on a deserted parking lot are fine - no harm no foul. Another rant subject is drunken driving a large SUV - excess selfishness, endangering others for no good reason.
What? No chase vehicle recording it for posterity? Check youtube in a few days, they might show up there.
Yeah, they do it on Highway 100 by my house, too. No helmets, chicks on the back, doing stoopid shit that makes us all look bad. That and the sport tuner types running 3 wide across all lanes crawling down the road, throwing thier micky Ds trash into the median. texting with one hand and smoking a ciggy in the other.
Jeff, you don't get it. They are Sooooo Coooool. You just be an old man now.
I don't know. Kind of mixed feelings on it really. I can understand the part about being wizzed off by seeing them do stupid stuff. But then again, "Almost" all of us have done the same thing and one point or another. I just get bugged by phone calls to the cops. Because I have 7 bikes and one person has a cell phone, I had the cops at my house twice this weekend. Once because two guys ditched a sheriff deputy and once because someone passed a car in a no passing zone doing a wheelie. Constantly hearing "someone called in a complaint about blah blah blah. You know anything about that?" gets real freaken old.
I can see both sides though and I still think stand-ups between cars are cool.
"Almost all of us?" interesting. I never knew that about the people I know.
Almost. not pointing the finger or anything. but I can't name a single person i ride with that can say they've never done some stupid stuff out on the highway.
Quote from: Court Jester on August 13, 2007, 06:22:50 PM
I don't know. Kind of mixed feelings on it really. I can understand the part about being wizzed off by seeing them do stupid stuff. But then again, "Almost" all of us have done the same thing and one point or another. I just get bugged by phone calls to the cops. Because I have 7 bikes and one person has a cell phone, I had the cops at my house twice this weekend. Once because two guys ditched a sheriff deputy and once because someone passed a car in a no passing zone doing a wheelie. Constantly hearing "someone called in a complaint about blah blah blah. You know anything about that?" gets real freaken old.
I can see both sides though and I still think stand-ups between cars are cool.
Something tells me there is a reason the cops always show up at your house when something goes wrong with motorcycles, and im pretty sure its not the fact that you have seven of them.
Those guys on the highway deserve to be put on their ass and put in line, if im ever on my streetbike ill be more than happy to do it to them.
Quote from: Court Jester on August 13, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
Almost. not pointing the finger or anything. but I can't name a single person i ride with that can say they've never done some stupid stuff out on the highway.
again, case in point.
The ability to refrain is harder than the wheelie.
what about the people bar hopping on hogs ,is that worse PR?
Quote from: benprobst on August 13, 2007, 06:42:53 PM
again, case in point.
so why call the cops? what's the reward?
Quote from: Court Jester on August 13, 2007, 06:46:26 PM
so why call the cops? what's the reward?
To punish stupid people for doing stupid things. or more politicaly correct : to punish dim people for doing really stupid things.
Calling to often may be like crying wolf
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Quote from: benprobst on August 13, 2007, 06:47:53 PM
To punish stupid people for doing stupid things. or more politicaly correct : to punish dim people for doing really stupid things.
So what do you recommend we do to Pres. Bush?
call the cops.
If we all called someone for doing something stupid, I'd never put my cellphone down while driving.
I think it's stupid that they do it, but I'm not about to call the cops about it.
I'd rather call them for the idiot that's backing up on the highway cause they missed their exit, or for the dumbass that decides he want's to jump in line, so he passes 500 cars that are in line, then decides to stop on the highway right before the exit so he can get over. THAT fucker deserves to get his ass kicked. Or what about the person that can't merge cause they get on at 40 MPH or the person that accidentally got in the turn lane, but instead of turning when the arrow goes, they'd rather wait and make the 20 other cars behind them pay for their mistake. What about those people?
Quote from: r1owner on August 13, 2007, 07:44:51 PM
If we all called someone for doing something stupid, I'd never put my cellphone down while driving.
I think it's stupid that they do it, but I'm not about to call the cops about it.
I'd rather call them for the idiot that's backing up on the highway cause they missed their exit, or for the dumbass that decides he want's to jump in line, so he passes 500 cars that are in line, then decides to stop on the highway right before the exit so he can get over. THAT fucker deserves to get his ass kicked. Or what about the person that can't merge cause they get on at 40 MPH or the person that accidentally got in the turn lane, but instead of turning when the arrow goes, they'd rather wait and make the 20 other cars behind them pay for their mistake. What about those people?
:biggrin: You drive in traffic everyday too huh, HW70 for me. Anyway, there is a bit of a difference between jumping line and doing a stand up wheelie in traffic on the highway and I think the punishment should be different too. Ohh and I dont think im allowed to say what I think should be done to GW and half of his cabinet.
Welcome to Chicago
+1
Maybe they just made a "bad choice".
:biggrin:
Quote from: r1owner on August 13, 2007, 07:44:51 PM
If we all called someone for doing something stupid, I'd never put my cellphone down while driving.
I think it's stupid that they do it, but I'm not about to call the cops about it.
I'd rather call them for the idiot that's backing up on the highway cause they missed their exit, or for the dumbass that decides he want's to jump in line, so he passes 500 cars that are in line, then decides to stop on the highway right before the exit so he can get over. THAT fucker deserves to get his ass kicked. Or what about the person that can't merge cause they get on at 40 MPH or the person that accidentally got in the turn lane, but instead of turning when the arrow goes, they'd rather wait and make the 20 other cars behind them pay for their mistake. What about those people?
The problem here is that those 6 morons are making a bad impression on car drivers that those drivers then stereotype onto ALL riders. I would not hesitate to make the call that Jeff did. I don't want to be affected by the actions of those idiots. It is riders like them that get laws enacted that I have to follow, laws that those riders will not obey any more than they obey the laws they broke in front of Jeff. I on the other hand do obey traffic laws and will be stuck obeying new laws enacted as a knee jerk response those idiots.
They're only laws if they're enforced.
Quote from: Court Jester on August 13, 2007, 06:22:50 PM
I just get bugged by phone calls to the cops. Because I have 7 bikes and one person has a cell phone, I had the cops at my house twice this weekend. Once because two guys ditched a sheriff deputy and once because someone passed a car in a no passing zone doing a wheelie. Constantly hearing “someone called in a complaint about blah blah blah. You know anything about that?” gets real freaken old.
Jester,
I got a solution for you. Set up a web cam at home so the cops can instantly tell whether you're home or not. Now if they happen to look for you while you're 'out with your friends' you might have some 'splainin to do!!
For clarification purposes here... the word "YOU" is not anyone in particular (even though I did address Jester singly at one point). It's anyone...
I really had mixed feelings about making the call. It pissed me off to have to do it. Like I said, the first time I shook my head, the second time I got a bit pissed and finally when I realized they weren't going to exit, move over or stop their idiocy, I called.
People who do shit like this on the freeway DESERVE every thing they get. They have zero consideration for anyone else, and will scream bloody murder when the cops harrass them or they get merged into by a semi. Well, honestly after seeing some of this shit, I understand it! Profiling? Call it whatever you want.
Jester, I've owned well over 100 bikes and have been very public about it in every neighborhood I've lived. Not *ONCE* have the cops showed up at my house because there was a complaint or they thought it might be me. Not once.
I've had a neighbor though who thought it was cool to leave his house at 6:30am running 35 in 1st gear just to hear how loud his freaking D&D could get. The cops were 'harrassing' him constantly. See the connection? Was he guilty every time? Hell no. However, through his actions, he caused the shit he got.
I'm just saying, HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION. Consideration for those around you who don't want to hear your bike. Consideration for those who don't want to be ridden past while you're doing a standup wheelie (which I will admit, I wish I could do, but I can't so whatever). Consideration for the fact that if you drop a bike at 75mph in 6 lanes of traffic, you have the ability to kill MANY people as that bike flips over the short median barrier into oncoming traffic, and people ass-pack each other trying to avoid the carnage. Far fetched? possibly, but it's quite realistic.
We've all seen how far bikes can fly. Why the hell people line up at Road A or BHF or wherever to watch a stunt show 5-10 feet away is beyond me. They've obviously never tried to pick up a downed bike and then thought "hmmm, how would that feel if I tried to CATCH it in mid air?"
Fact is, doing things like this is uncool and for me personally, unacceptable. You bet I'll call the cops on your ass.
Again, consider how uncomfortable you'd be if I showed up to your kids birthday party with 6 friends and started tossing around loaded weapons or drawing down on people... There is no difference here in my opinion.
Jester - after what you posted, do you really wonder why the police always come to your house after there are reports of reckless motorcycle riding? For the record, I have never done any of this going down the highway - I don't think its cool and I don't believe "everyone" else does it. Maybe all your riding buddies do, but then again, that seems to be part of reason you have a problem with the law enforcement officers...
If you don't like the attention that the actions of you and your friends generate, keep the agressive riding to private property - not public roads. How can you expect the police to respect you, when you don't respect them or the other population on the roads?
George
I knew it , I knew it, I knew it!
From the first day I saw Jester's helmet with the 'mohawk' on it I knew there was something different about him. Now I know.
Jester is a REBEL!
Oh snap dawg. It's not worth arguing or finger pointing. Like I said, I can see both sides of the issue. I just chunked out my two cents. If that's how you decide to handle it, then cool. I wouldn't handle it the same way, but then everyone is unique in their own respect. I'm not pointing the finger and calling you or anyone else a bad person for calling the cops. The have a job to do and that is their job.
And honestly, I really don't have a problem with the cops. I know they are just doing their job and I can respect that. Though I don't respect the fact of how most of them present themselves at times. Such as showing up and telling my kids their going to take me to jail because someone complained about sliding to a stop and taking off fast. If they come and question me for something I did, it's cool. I'll talk, I'll be super nice, offer them a drink, whatever. I have two tickets for ADMITTING to doing a wheelie that people complained about. But I have been known to tell a fib to the pole-fuzz from time to time too. But when I have never even once pulled a wheelie through Lancaster on the bike, I have seldom topped 5mph over the posted limit within 5 miles of town, and I have a stock pipe on the 929, I do get a little bugged when the cops follow me all the way through town and stop me at the edge of town to complain about my "Loud bike" while I was in second gear most of the time anyway. "I could hear it from back there in my car Mr. Middleton." Yeah, he had his window down. That's freaken retarded cop crap.
When I get out and ride stupid, I keep it confined to back roads most of the time but 151 does have this super cool hill that I can't resist topping on one wheel. I've taken the bike between rows of cars at 100mph on one wheel, done the same with Harley riders, I've skimmed them on the right at 170 something, I've passed Harleys and cars with a knee down through a clover leaf. And I do get in trouble for it some times. Is it smart? Oh god no. I'll admit it's bordering on mental retardation, maybe even a bit over the boarder line. But it's fun and something I just never consider while I'm doing. Can I claim A.D.D. on that??? Either way, when I do crap like that, I fully expect to talk to the cops and I always take the long way around to hit the back roads into town to avoid it because I've learned that even 4 counties over makes it back to Lancaster's Glock Squats before I get home. But if it's for something I did, I honestly don't have a leg to stand on with a complaint about the cops bothering me. It's 100% my fault.
What does get me are the folks that feel they are the road police and there for obligated to snitch, cry, call the cops, get out and scream at you at a stop light, or try to run you into a ditch just because they didn't like what you were doing. The cops can't do anything if they don't see it. Unless you are drunk and belligerent when they show up. They don't like being called poor, uneducated, fat, sloppy, Glock egoed, dim wits. They can and will talk to the city attorney and find a reason to mail you a ticket later. Freaken white people. Which means it has nothing to do with the law, but rather a power struggle so they can puff their chest a little.
God, this is way long. Anyway, no, I don't think all cops are all bad. No I don't think people should be allowed to do stuff like that on open roads. No I do not think it is smart to do stuff like that on open roads. Yes I do think it's fun to do it. No I do not think they have "No reason" to bother me. Yes I do expect to be bothered. Yes I do expect them to act like professionals in their field of service while they talk to me. No I do not think it is right that they bug me as much as they do when the local cops here have only pulled me over for going 7mph over the posted limit in my truck. Yes I do think I should probably lose the Mohawk when riding on the street. Yes I do think most cops (NOT ALL COPS) are poor, uneducated, fat, sloppy, glock egoed, dim wits who break more laws than they uphold and have to carry a prick persona to over compensate for their own ignorant short comings. But then some would say the same about me I suppose. No I'm not a rebel. No I don't try to be. No I don't think it is right to call the cops. And most importantly; no I don't think it is wrong to call the cops either. Like I said, mixed emotions on it.
C'mon there Jester, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. :biggrin:
Consider the person that runs over them with their car cause the assmunch dumps it while doing the wheelie. I couldn't give two shits less about the guy on the bike. Brought it upon himself. But what about the poor driver that has to live with the fact of possible killing some one? Stupid is as stupid does. I work in Chicago every day, and doing a wheelie ANYWHERE there is just fucking stupid. :finger:
Quote from: Court Jester on August 14, 2007, 06:10:28 PM
The cops can?t do anything if they don?t see it.
I don't think that's entirely correct. First off, in my experience they can always find a way to make you pay.
Second, I think any citizen witness can work with the police to make a "citizen arrest" and they take you away. All it takes is their witness of the activity, but although I've known of that happening I don't know all the details. All I know is that I know of one person who thought he got away with some stuff because the cops didn't see it and was actually in deep shit when the police worked with a local witness. Guess who's word the judge believed.
Mild rant coming... :preachon:
There is this pervasive notion that its the police's job alone to protect society and that to help them is to rat. Most crimes are solved with the help of the public. Order is maintained by citizens acting responsibly in society and that includes taking care of each other by removing dangerous types. The alternative, which we are rapidly approaching, is to have a government crank out laws for every little thing to dictate exactly what you may and may not do, think, say, etc. enforced by a miltary or police force. At that point we get to live in a nanny state with government making every rule so we don't have to think.
Ironically, I've dialed 911 on the road twice in my life and they've both been this summer. The first was a pickup truck of drunk asshats throwing stuff at passing cars, the second was to report two people who parked a car on the on ramp to the Dan Ryan and were trying to stop traffic, pretending to be broken down so they could rob or carjack a good samaritan. (The cops were well aware of these people and their ploy). I hope my phone call got them out of society for at least a little while.
(Crap...why did I bother to write this...I can't believe I got sucked into this post...) :banghead:
Ive herd it takes avillage to raise children.
Are we adults and the police part of the village?
You squid's KNOW whats right and wrong shut the $%^#$% up.!!!!
if you all think that 6 bikes doing wheelies is bad, check out the mass disfunction caused by this group called ruff ryders on a major highway somewhere. the video is on you tube. idiots did it like bikerboys and stopped the flow of traffic so that they could do stunts and stuff on the freeway. they did a mass burnout before they started moving again. there might have been more than 200 bikes during the event. if only it wasnt a sin to run down someone with a truck....
found the links!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnXixdK1Je4
They shut down the whole freeway to do a "STUNT SHOW"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvuOJ...elated&search=
A quick look of the madness from a higher view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJtp...elated&search=
welcome to stl
f-in ass hats do this shit every year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELCjQb-Tmgc
"If you don't git nutin new you don't get no respeck"
"Its basically, hey look at me"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_53Akubhk
you know in france they limit you to 100hp they call it the no fun law there starting to get ill about all this here in fl luckily we don't have as many laws here as other places but that may change i think there my be a point when where bike bikes will be a memory a guy came buy us on I 95 this moning no helmet shorts and a tee shirt .my kids have been trained to call him an idiot . i call him spare parts. kidneys, lungs, liver, forks, rims, motor. hey i need these guys for my ebay account
Fuckin Squids...
C'mon there Jester, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
Now that i'm back , i gotta say cj could carryon a great debate- all alone-I just dislike that insurance :ahhh: :finger: :ahhh:rates rise because of hoolishness :ass:, relegating me (happily) :biggrin:to streeting a (SUZUKI) 1982 GS1100G- cops dont even glance anymore!
I was driving to Blackhawk once on a crowded I90. I had my box van at the time. Traffic was heavy enough that no one could really do anything but stay in line, so I just got in the right lane and cruised there, four carlengths behind the vehicle ahead at 70 mph while the left laners passed me at 75 or so.
I was just driving along thinking about the race weekend ahead when my left ear nearly exploded. A sportbike ripped past at full pin on the painted line, rolling about 120 and actually ducking to avoid taking off my extended mirror with his helmetless head! I NEVER saw this guy coming, and was so startled that I swerved 2 wheels onto the shoulder momentarily. As I gathered it up I nearly killed the two buddies who were following the first idiot.
Now I had my full race program in the back of that Box van and was headed to the track. I was thinking about racing as this incident happened. Instantly, I was mad enough to KILL these morons. If anyone on that highway might have been sympathetic to those riders and their "plight" of not having anywhere to excercise their sportbikes, it would have been me. Nope. I was just glad they didn't crash and jam up the highway, causing me to have to wait as they bled out.
No sympathy. And when I was a street rider, I was quite choosy about where and when I lit it up, both for my own safety and that of others.