Am looking to buy some tire warmers. Size 120/160.
Richard has monthly sales & typically a give-away on Tyr Sox. Watch the commercial classifieds.
Tenn2 is another company that has warmers who has supported the site here.
Quote from: Jeff on August 02, 2007, 12:48:45 PM
Richard has monthly sales & typically a give-away on Tyr Sox. Watch the commercial classifieds.
Isn't Richard running a special summer price of $175/set?
http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,17495.0.html
Just ran across that myself and will probably buy from them. Thanks :thumb:
I thought I already had a set of Chicken Hawks, but unfortunately was just scammed :banghead:
Buy a set of T2 tire warmers.
Adjustable, digital, great price.
You won't be dissapointed :thumb:
Not to bash anyone etc but I don't think you will ultimately be happy with tyrsox. I've never used the T2 but they have to be better. If you want to ensure your investment then get the chicken hawks. They are the best and they will always be worth something.
I just used my new set of Tyrsox for the first time yesterday and I can't be any happier with them. What's wrong with Tyrsox?
And how can you say something is better if you've never used it, because they cost more?
Quote from: tomholiday on August 14, 2007, 12:16:18 AM
And how can you say something is better if you've never used it, because they cost more?
construction, technology, materials...
I'm pretty sure that cheng shin makes a tire that would fit whatever you're racing. If you haven't used it, how can you say it's inferior to dunlop/michelin/pirelli/bridgestone? Just because it's cheaper??
(for the record, I'm NOT saying any warmer is better/worse, I'm just pointing out the obvious answer to the question)
I'm not trying to be an ass here, its just the simple fact that I have heard *a lot* opinions since i've started racing and about 50% aren't backed up some founded reasoning. Yes, i've done my own research and the theory behind Tyrsox makes the most sense to me, plain and simple. Maybe they won't be worth as much as ChickenHawks if I ever get out of this money pit, but i'm not buying anything to sell it.
I was really just curious as to why he thought they were better and was hoping to hear an answer like, different construction, technology, materials, etc, and not just "you get what you pay for". But even more so, I would like to hear specifics of the differing construction methods, what the technology difference is, and what the material difference is to make it a superior product. It might not be so obvious to someone who has never used T2's or ChickenHawks. I haven't been on this board for very long and I do take peoples opinions into consideration as much as possible, but without factual info i'm probably not drinking the koolaid.
and Rob, if you can figure out how to make me ultimately happy my GF will probably want to marry you :cheers:
It's extremely subjective. Every vendor says their product is BEST because of specific reasons or claims.
What I like about Tyr Sox:
Cheap
Effective at WARMING the tire
Features they don't necessarily have (again, this doesn't make them BAD, it's just a difference).
No variable thermostat
Ease of installation/removal
One piece insulated design over 2 piece blanket design
Testing by RRW a few years back clearly showed other warmers to provide more heat (now whether it was too much heat, enough heat is very debatable, etc).
I've used:
Tyr Sox
Bickle
Chicken Hawk
PDI
Sportsbike
Tire Bakers/Woodcraft
Over the years and there are good and bad in EVERY set. The Tyr Sox are not a bad warmer, I personally prefer some features which they do not contain.
Thanks Jeff. I wasn't aware of the Bickle warmers.
There are probably 50 or more brands of tire warmers available, and ultimately they come from probably less than 5 sources worldwide.
Sounds like Jeff has most of my bases covered here. The heavy duty construction of the Chicken Hawks are ultimately going to show in the longevity of the product. They are better insulated and provide a more even heating of the tire. They are easier to put on and take off unless you don't actually use the sock portion of the tire sox, and then with no insulation they are unable to hold the heat into the tire.
Good posts, guys.
In the summer, tire warmers are pretty easy to use. Better warmers still will do what they are supposed to in cooler weather.
Ultimately, the tire isn't the only thing that is warmed. As the tire warms, the wheel, and the air inside the tire gets warmed. If you can't put enough heat into all of that, the tire will actually go cold because there is no heat behind it all.
In the old days, I hammered the brakes during a warm up lap to put heat into the rotors that would warm the wheel which transfered heat to the tire.
I think one could build a tire warmer that warmed the wheel only to do the job that current "tire warmers" do.
Quote from: Super Dave on August 15, 2007, 08:49:47 AM
I think one could build a tire warmer that warmed the wheel only to do the job that current "tire warmers" do.
hehe... try pulling those off your 10Y magnesium wheels!
Quote from: LMsports on August 14, 2007, 11:58:55 PM
The heavy duty construction of the Chicken Hawks are ultimately going to show in the longevity of the product.
I'll attest to that! I know some dumbass who once went hauling ass out of his pit with the rear warmer still on the bike. After a cord repair, it worked like new! That's durability!
If only I had my camera.... That was hilarious dude.
Hey Rob didnt you (K3) test the tensile strength of the chicken hawk power cord at the AMA round at R. America? :biggrin:
Jason... there's nothing wrong with trying to keep that last bit of heat on the tire before you head out, but I think riding your warmers to the grid is a bit extreme no?
I've got a set of old handed down Tyrsox that were purchased used off of e-bay a few years ago. They're older than dirt and they've held up just fine. Had to reinforce the velcro stitching, but I've seen similar things on other brands. The two layers are kind of hinkey to deal with, but I've used one piece warmers as well and it's not that big of an issue. They do their job, I've got no complaints.
Yeah, the only thing I noticed on Sunday when going from my Tyrsox to T's STG warmers was the velcro on the Tyrsox seemed less substantial than the STG ones. Probably would be the only thing I would change about the product. Other than that they worked great, stayed in place fine, and did their job....and i'm probably gonna get some attention with the purple blankies :)
If I understand correctly the STG one's are made by ChickenHawk. I wonder if there is any quick way to find out what brands are made by what source company/manuf.
i knew i'd get some smites because of this thread...
For the record...I don't smite.
With that out of the way, even the STG's, although made by Chicken hawk do not offer the same level of quality in heating the tire or the durability of regular Chicken Hawks. Dave, the owner of Chicken Hawk also has some literature that he put together with the way his warmers work and explains the more technical side of their superiority. I'll look, but I'll bet he has it posted on his website.
That's good to know, our friend had two sets of the STGs and one of them crapped out on him after a season or so.
Just to clarify, having more features and higher quality in a one piece warmer would be great. I'm just sayin' for what I'm doing, for me, the Tyrsox do their job and I've been happy with them.
knew i'd get some smites because of this thread...
Just means infamy- - HEY ALL - I have a new set of TYR SOX for a 180 rear- $130 shipped ! call973 607 1827 and their yours- they were extra- dont need them -
Holy Crap :preachon:
I have a set of 160 Chickenhawk Pole Position's $300 shipped, includes the hard case.