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Title: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Fast4fun on April 14, 2007, 01:24:46 AM
I heard that Pirelli was changing from the supercorsa pro to diablo's this year. Does anyone have more information about where they are going with their tires this year?
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Team_Serpent on April 16, 2007, 03:58:46 PM
Quote from: timsrc51 on April 14, 2007, 01:24:46 AM
I heard that Pirelli was changing from the supercorsa pro to diablo's this year. Does anyone have more information about where they are going with their tires this year?

How about a Podium sweep of the Daytona 200!

Yes the new tire is the DIABLO SUPER CORSA, I ran them at Daytona and they are AWESOME!

What do you want to know?
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: PJ721 on April 16, 2007, 05:31:33 PM
they are still making the SuperCorsa Pros....


http://www.pirellityre.com/web/catalog/moto/moto_catalogoDett.page?categoria=/catalog/moto/racing/racing_supersport&vehicleType=MOTO
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Team_Serpent on April 16, 2007, 05:51:54 PM
Quote from: PJ721 on April 16, 2007, 05:31:33 PM
they are still making the SuperCorsa Pros....

You are correct, and they are still excellent tires and I have a few new sets I'll be running at HPT
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Fast4fun on April 17, 2007, 06:45:03 PM
Are they still coded SC1 for super soft etc...?
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Team_Serpent on April 18, 2007, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: timsrc51 on April 17, 2007, 06:45:03 PM
Are they still coded SC1 for super soft etc...?

Yes, the codes are SC0 - White = Super Soft, SC1 - Blue = Soft, SC2 - Green = Medium, SC3 - Yellow = Hard

The codes are the same but each compound has been tweaked for better performance / longevity.  I'm assuming they have carried the compound improvements over to the Supercorsa Pro as well but have not asked that question directly.
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: catman on April 18, 2007, 11:25:24 PM
yea diablos podium-only because  SCOTTY 727 and Duhamel didnt finish......... :ass: :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Sig on April 18, 2007, 11:41:07 PM
I'm pretty sure Pirelli considers the blue supersoft, green, soft and yellow medium.
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Team_Serpent on April 19, 2007, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: Sig on April 18, 2007, 11:41:07 PM
I'm pretty sure Pirelli considers the blue supersoft, green, soft and yellow medium.

Ok, so white (SC0) is?  Super Super Soft?

There is no description to the compound codes in any of the Pirelli literature or on the website that I have seen, so I guess you can call them anything you want but I'm pretty sure my post above is correct when talking with Pirelli engineers.
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Sig on April 20, 2007, 03:32:04 PM
I'd always hear a SC0 called a qualifier.
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Team_Serpent on April 20, 2007, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: Sig on April 20, 2007, 03:32:04 PM
I'd always hear a SC0 called a qualifier.

I stand corrected!

Shane from Racer Supply has indicated the following:

SC0 - White = Super Super Soft or Qualifier, SC1 - Blue = Super Soft, SC2 - Green = Soft, SC3 - Yellow = Medium


Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Fast4fun on April 20, 2007, 06:18:55 PM
What are the advantages of a qualifier tire? Will they last a whole weekend or are they just for a race or two?

Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Sig on April 21, 2007, 01:25:11 PM
SC0 is VERY soft, very sticky but will wear out very fast.

Personally, I'd stay away from it unless you have money to burn. :)

I usually go with a S1 front and SC2 rear. However, at CMP they were out of SC1 fronts and I went with an SC2 front and it seemed to work just as well. CMP is a very course track, tough on tires.
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: REM6a on April 23, 2007, 05:17:40 PM
I just used them this weekend at Summit Point and WOW what a sick tire.
For the extra $40 from the Supercorsa pro, this tire was NASTY.
I did stuff I never should be doing on a normal tire.
Just a controllable nice tire to run.
Still the Supercorsa is a great tire as well, but this thing just wears better.
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: Fast4fun on April 23, 2007, 11:15:11 PM
REM, Are you referring to the qulifiers or the Diablo's in general? I just finished my first track day at Grattan and was very impressed with the new tires. They wear evenly and grip fantastic and look as though they'll last a full weekend with ease. Running SC1f and SC2r. Yet again, i have to work on my skills to find the limits of this tire. A noble cause indeed!

While I'm at it, I have a noob question:  What tire pressures do you run? Do you measure when cold or hot? Do you underinflate a cold tire by a pound or two and let the heat raise the pressure? I noticed that lap times improved as I dropped the pressure bit by but, but only up to a certain point.
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: ekraft84 on May 02, 2007, 02:16:04 PM
We ran 31/29 hot last year and have been told 33/29 with the new Pirelli's. 

Trying them this weekend and can't wait.  Hey Jason!
Title: Re: Pirelli Tire Changes
Post by: ekraft84 on May 02, 2007, 02:21:39 PM
Update:

Shane says:  33/29 hot
Moose says: 32/28 hot

Your results may vary.  :D