I see that Road America now requires registering pit bikes. Looks like licenced vehicles are OK? The track cites insurance reason. Insurance policies at different tracks must vary wildly!!! @Daytona I had to remove the plates on my PitHawk... Now, at RA, I'll have to leave them on? Blackhawk farms rules make no sense at all. Spectators can ride motorcycles in and out all day long, but if I'm racing/camping I need to register my LICENSED bike to use it to run into town [according to Mr. Clean, that is].
The two clowns that were out "racing" their pit bikes after dark at Blackhawk, you two started this BS, and yet you still feel comfortable showing up to races?? If I had pulled that stunt, I'd be too shamed to come back!
Quote from: 123user on March 30, 2007, 03:49:17 PM
The two clowns that were out "racing" their pit bikes after dark at Blackhawk, you two started this BS, and yet you still feel comfortable showing up to races?? If I had pulled that stunt, I'd be too shamed to come back!
There were more than "two" clowns out there that night a BFR...Where did you read about this? Am I missing the Link somewhere?
Quote from: 123user on March 30, 2007, 03:49:17 PMThe two clowns that were out "racing" their pit bikes after dark at Blackhawk, you two started this BS, and yet you still feel comfortable showing up to races?? If I had pulled that stunt, I'd be too shamed to come back!
Yeah there were more than two clowns. It was the straw that broke the camels back though. This had been building up for a couple years.
And the real good part is, or rumor has it, the clowns were not bike people but friends of the owners who were there just goofing off.
Last year Tom, the security guard, tried to make me register my scooter which is street legal. I flat refused and kept riding it. I told him, "When every street bike in here is registered, I'll register my scooter". He didn't push the deal.
I will do the same this year. If he pushes it I will contact AMA and have them contact the race track for an explanation to why they discriminate against one group of bike owners.
Well, actually as I remember the deal at BFR (seeing as my wife and I almost got hit while walking the track) one of the "clowns" is a racer and was still racing as of last season.
Tom did push the issue with my wife, for riding a LICENSED bike at the 'farms. In fact, when I showed up another time, he passed by and told me not to even pull it off the trailer. However, when my wife got "busted" he came to discuss the matter with me- he thought she was my daughter. She was sitting right there, it was so funny I found it difficult to put up much of a fight.
Gordie, according to the posts that the owners/management (HPT on the board) put up about this last year stated as long as the vehicle is currently street registered, according to I-dot, it doesnt fall under the pitbike rule.
Quote from: weggieman on March 30, 2007, 07:05:25 PM
And the real good part is, or rumor has it, the clowns were not bike people but friends of the owners who were there just goofing off.
Negative ghost rider...The clowns were all racers...
But, to get back to the post at hand, where is the RA info at?
RA info posted on front of web page
ghost rider??????????
Quote from: weggieman on March 31, 2007, 05:19:10 PM
ghost rider??????????
I believe that is in reference to a quote from
Top Gun.
As always, I'm a little confused on the new RA rules. Are the little dirt bikes that people use for pit vehicles ok there?
If confused call teh track and ask their management. Best to get the info from the horses mouth so to speak.
Quote from: r1owner on April 01, 2007, 08:08:14 PM
I believe that is in reference to a quote from Top Gun.
Yep...Nothing more, nothing less... :)
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full :)
Quote from: weggieman on March 30, 2007, 07:20:53 PM
I will do the same this year. If he pushes it I will contact AMA and have them contact the race track for an explanation to why they discriminate against one group of bike owners.
I didn't get any flak for my licensed and insured scooter. Maybe you should shave your head. It could be a bald-brethren thing :lmao:
Question.. What rights do you have on private property? I guess the AMA could make a stink about it and create a ton of negative publicity, but I don't know that they could really do anything. It's kinda like the RV parks that refuse to allow units more than X years old.
Quote from: extrakt0r on March 30, 2007, 08:44:31 PMThe clowns were all racers...
And some were friends of the track in addition to being racers.
It blows, but it is an insurance thing. No consistency between tracks, but I think that's related to state issues in insurance and a track's opportunity for liability. Regardless, times have changed.
My continued understanding, as Jeff stated, is that if you have a licensed and insured bike/scooter/moped, it is allowed without any kind of additional registration. Some racers use scooters that are not licensed or insured as pit bikes, so there can be confusion in recognizing the differences.
I wish things could be differnent. I blame trial lawyers and those that are enabled by them.
QuoteMaybe you should shave your head. It could be a bald-brethren thing
8)
Well I find some of his very interesting in MO, you can't get a license for a Scooter < 50 cc. It is worse than pulling teeth to get the DMV to issue one as it isn't required. Can't legally license it in another state, although I am sure I could if I tried hard, assuming I could find an address to use (which is fraud).
I still wonder what a licensed bike/scooter has to do with insurance, shouldn't that be down to who is operating it. Lets assume you have a licensed scooter but a 10 year old is riding it. Thats OK?
I think it would work the same way as a 10 year old driving a car.
I know that at BFR, you must be 16 to operate a vehicle other than a race bike. So, while 14 year old racer can race and ride their bike to the grid, they cannot operate anything else on the track property.
Since it's the insurance companies defining the coverage, it doesn't have to make sense, right?
Anthony,
For you, the regulations don't make sense... For your wife, well I don't know- Think of it as reducing the opportunity for her to crash your scooter. Just tell her that it's against the rule for her to ride it and save on crash damage
Are you going to HPT?
later,
Scott
Quote from: APP_Racing on April 03, 2007, 03:38:08 PMI still wonder what a licensed bike/scooter has to do with insurance, shouldn't that be down to who is operating it. Lets assume you have a licensed scooter but a 10 year old is riding it. Thats OK?
If the bike is licensed and insured (depending on your home states requirements) it falls on the owner of the vehicle, not the track (normally) if theres an incedent. Just my guess.
Yeah, everytime I have a getti-off the Scooter seems to take more damage. Yes I am planning to be at HPT. Have way to much to get done to the bikes though.