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Title: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: PJ on January 23, 2007, 01:29:16 PM
Buell just announced a $1,000,000 contingency program for 2007, with more than $300,000 up for grabs for ASRA and CCS racers.

The Buell contingency program will reward Buell racers competing on all XBRR and 2003 and newer XB model motorcycles. Cash contingencies will be posted in the following classes at every ASRA Pro Series national and CCS regional event; there is no minimum grid requirement.

Complete details of the 2007 Buell contingency program, including the racer registration form, are available at buell.com in the Racing Support Section.

http://buell.com/en_us/mania/racing/racingsupport.asp#parts (http://buell.com/en_us/mania/racing/racingsupport.asp#parts)

ASRA ThunderBike
1st - $2,000, 2nd - $1,500, 3rd - $1,200, 4th $1,000, 5th $800, 6th - $700, 7th - $600, 8th - $450, 9th - $400, 10th - $350, 11th - $300, 12th - $250, 13th - $200, 14th - $150, 15th - $100

ASRA ThunderBike Season Championship Awards: 1st - $3,000, 2nd - $1,250, 3rd - $1,000, 4th - $750, 5th - $500

ASRA SuperBike
1st - $3,000, 2nd - $2,000, 3rd - $1,000, 4th - $700, 5th - $400

CCS SuperTwins Expert at ASRA national events (only second race on twin sprint weekends).
1st - $1,000, 2nd - $800, 3rd - $600, 4th - $400, 5th - $200

CCS Middleweight Superbike Expert
1st - $500, 2nd - $400, 3rd - $300, 4th - $200, 5th - $100

CCS SuperTwins Expert
1st - $500, 2nd - $400, 3rd - $300, 4th - $200, 5th - $100

CCS ThunderBike Expert
1st - $500, 2nd - $400, 3rd - $300, 4th - $200, 5th - $100

CCS ThunderBike Amateur
1st - $300, 2nd - $200, 3rd - $100, 4th - $75, 5th - $50
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: 251am on January 23, 2007, 04:08:22 PM
 Uh oh!  That's a lot a greenbacks!     :ahhh:

Have you gotta run Pirellis?
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: Court Jester on January 23, 2007, 06:34:55 PM
only one amateur class???
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: deltadave on January 23, 2007, 08:21:04 PM
Last year Buell had the best contingency program in ASRA and CCS.  I didn't think it would get any better, but it did.  They have increased the stakes and added a class.  The bikes are fun to ride and the company is great to be associated with.  BTW,  when your at the track on a Buell,  you really do feel like you're associated with the company.
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: TrophyGal on January 23, 2007, 08:45:08 PM
Darn!  You beat me to it!  I've been waiting for the Buell PR guy to get back with me with an "official" statement from them.

It really is awesome.

BTW .. other contingency requirements & awards are posted on the CCS website now.  (PDF file)
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: catman on January 23, 2007, 08:47:04 PM
And they just sound so right!
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: dylanfan53 on January 23, 2007, 10:01:01 PM
How many other companies pay out on four year old bikes?
Thank you, Buell! 

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:


Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: PJ on January 23, 2007, 11:31:20 PM
61ex: You can run whatever tire you want. Personally though, I think the Pirellis suit the XB chassis really well.

Court Jester: Actually Buell pays amateurs in two classes since you can run ASRA Thunderbike as an Am. I don't think too many other manufacturers pay amateurs, do they?

TrophyGal: Sorry, I sent you the "official" statement just before I posted on the forum. Just wanted to share the good news.

Catman: Yep, you just gotta love the sound of a made-in-Milwaukee twin at full honk on a racetrack. Especially sweet coming down into the tree lined entrance of T5 at Road America, then accelerating up the hill...

Dave and Don, great racing with you this year. See you guys out there next season!
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: cbusa on January 24, 2007, 08:26:00 AM
Wonder why they left out LW classes?
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: Jeff on January 24, 2007, 09:57:00 AM
Wow... that is HUGE...  Way to go for Buell in stepping up the support for the club guys! 
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: h2o_motorsports on January 24, 2007, 10:07:54 AM
Mabey I need to get a Buell.
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: Super Dave on January 24, 2007, 01:21:48 PM
Note...

Thunderbike has been eliminated in the Great Plains region.  So, the combined MW/GP region events at MAM and GIR will not have Thunderbike, or 125GP or HWSB as they have been eliminated also.
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: Super Dave on January 24, 2007, 01:23:04 PM
Huge thumbs up to Buell, by the way.
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: imafrogg420 on January 25, 2007, 12:16:52 AM
were are all the lightwight classes?
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: dylanfan53 on January 25, 2007, 12:38:55 AM
Thunderbike and Supertwins are lightweight classes.
In the Amateur grids, you can run Thunderbike CCS and Thunderbike ASRA.
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: Stinger562 on January 25, 2007, 08:07:43 AM
It's nice to see a thread where Buell is not getting bashed.
If you are not on a buell, consider it, the support structure and the people involved are great.  And it's patriotic for pete's sake!!
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: PJ on January 27, 2007, 10:03:11 AM
Quote from: cbusa on January 24, 2007, 08:26:00 AMWonder why they left out LW classes?

Buell has supported the Thunderbike class for a long time at the national and regional level. The class rules allow for a fairly high level of modifcation, but stock displacement (LW legal) XBs can bump up and be competitive. SuperTwins was added for XBRR racers, but XB racers can also bump up.

All in all, it's a pretty damn good program. Especially since it pays at every CCS weekend.
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: proechel539 on January 28, 2007, 05:06:00 AM
So what is the basic set up for a competitive Buell and what would it cost to get one race ready?Which is the better bike a xb9 or xb12?
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on January 28, 2007, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: dylanfan53 on January 23, 2007, 10:01:01 PM
How many other companies pay out on four year old bikes?
Thank you, Buell! 

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:



If you win enough money, maybe you can buy another flowery helmet!  Actually, Icon is making a pink lid now, and it's pretty reasonably priced....   :kicknuts:
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: catman on January 28, 2007, 11:04:53 AM
 :spank: :banghead: :err: :lmao:            'nuff said
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: dylanfan53 on January 28, 2007, 12:12:44 PM
Too late, Sizzlechest.  Rob at Lithium already took care of me.  Brand new model and still has that "new car" smell.

:boink: :cheers:  :boink: :ass: 

(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs192%2Fdylanfan53%2FDSC00934.jpg&hash=b3de032b88a73f21ac5d63e066ecd1440cebd65c)
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: catman on January 28, 2007, 12:31:03 PM
Hey Dylanfan- :thumb: noticed an old technique ( actually current)of mine ), FLOWERS :biggrin: go good at times of (purchases)such  as your picture shows! Been to the florist alot lately ,i can cut my trips there down- da bling is goin on this week! PEACE
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: cbusa on January 28, 2007, 12:45:27 PM
Quote from: dylanfan53 on January 25, 2007, 12:38:55 AM
Thunderbike and Supertwins are lightweight classes.
In the Amateur grids, you can run Thunderbike CCS and Thunderbike ASRA.

No they aren't really LW classes, a lot of LW bikes run in them. I am curious why Buell left out LWSS, LWSB

Charlie
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: PJ on January 28, 2007, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: proechel539 on January 28, 2007, 05:06:00 AMSo what is the basic set up for a competitive Buell and what would it cost to get one race ready?Which is the better bike a xb9 or xb12?

The XB12 runs in all the same classes that the XB9 can run in. They both share the same bore, but the 9 is a short stroke. If you want to build the motor, a 9 can be competitive, but stock vs. stock, go with the 12.

A stock XB12R is pretty competitive in LWSS, and with minor mods can be made competitive in all the other LW classes. A good rider can also run up front in Thunderbike and SuperTwins, especially at tighter, more technical tracks.

The chassis is excellent. And the stock suspension is top shelf OE. Fully adjustable Showa forks and rear shock with remote reservoir. You may want to consider replacing the stock dual rate rear spring with a single rate, and perhaps stiffer (if you're, ahem, a plus size racer like me) spring. But I have raced on the stock set up, and it's pretty good.

The stock belt drive works fine. Guys have won races and championships with it at the Am level. It's 75% lighter than chain drive. But, it does restrict your gearing and will be shorter than you'd like for Road America, Daytona, etc. The engine is pretty tractable, so even with a chain conversion (from Halspa.com), I use my Daytona/RA gearing for Blackhawk and just use 4 gears instead of 5.

For Superbike, you can replace the stock XB12 pistons with XB9 pistons for higher compression. A lighter flywheel also helps acceleration. That's been a pretty reliable and competitive package for me.

Beyond that, if you want to make serious power, you'll need to spend some money and increase displacement. That, of course, will make your bike illegal for the LW classes, but positions you nicely for Buell bucks in Thunderbike and SuperTwins. I've had pretty good success running a LW Superbike-legal configuration in those classes, but I pretty much get killed on long straights.

What does it cost to get one race ready? I know of guys who've found mildly crashed XB12s on ebay for between $3500 and $4500. Fix the damage and add a $100 belly pan and fresh tires and you're good to go.

There's plenty of Buell racers who will be happy to share their experiences. PM me if you want to talk live.
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: PJ on January 28, 2007, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: cbusa on January 28, 2007, 12:45:27 PMNo they aren't really LW classes, a lot of LW bikes run in them. I am curious why Buell left out LWSS, LWSB

See my prior post.

Quote from: PJ on January 27, 2007, 10:03:11 AM
Buell has supported the Thunderbike class for a long time at the national and regional level. The class rules allow for a fairly high level of modifcation, but stock displacement (LW legal) XBs can bump up and be competitive. SuperTwins was added for XBRR racers, but XB racers can also bump up.

Buell's racing support program goes beyond contingency too. Racing Manager Henry Duga attends each of the ASRA National rounds and provides technical and parts support. He sells race only parts through your designated dealer and is a great resource.

Buell has never forgotten its privateer racing roots.
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on January 28, 2007, 04:27:30 PM
Quote from: dylanfan53 on January 28, 2007, 12:12:44 PM
Brand new model and still has that "new car" smell.

Is that the Godspell Edition?  Nice photo.  "Still life with helmet and flowers."
Title: Re: Buell Posts $300,000 for ASRA and CCS Racers in 2007
Post by: ahastings on January 28, 2007, 11:23:17 PM
It's funny, looks like Buell has the best contingency of any manufacture and guys are complaining about classes they don't pay or only paying one amateur class. Be glad they pay any amateur class, it is call amatuer for a reason, and Buell is the only motorcycle manufacturer that pays an am. class.