I was hoping to be able to start competing in ccs, but im not sure which class is more for beginers, i heard something abut a 250cc class, which would be convinient since im on a tight budget. well thank you for all the information that anyone can give me hear. :biggrin:
Well, you have to start as an amateur.
Some classes will cost you more in terms of replacing tires, brake pads, etc.
Many start racing on a bike they have currently.
A 250 class...Well, yeah, there are classes for purpose built 250cc bikes, there are classes for 250cc street bikes. It's different from MX where really the only thing that is raced is an MX bike where you've got 250 C, 250 A, etc.
So, what bike do you have now?
Well there isn't really a "250" class in CCS.... They have lightweight classes - such as Lightweight "GP - Superbike and Supersport - then they have the GT Lights class.... All of the classes have different rules as far as what you can and cannot do the the bikes and what specific motor configurations are allowed.... I started in the Lightweight classes on an SV - I would suggest to anyone that has never raced before - that starting on a smaller bike is the way to go - at least until you get a good handle of the basics.... Dollar for dollar you can't get much cheaper or competitive then an SV.... They also require less regular maintenance then a two stroke...... You can check the rule book on the website and that will give you an idea as to what you can do with a certain bike........ Good luck
i currently have a gs500f with some mods (exhaust,sprocket,air filter)
Quote from: nvill003 on December 31, 2006, 03:19:34 PM
i currently have a gs500f with some mods (exhaust,sprocket,air filter)
Theres a lightweight class bike right there. Have the forks redone and rear shock and add a bellypan and yer good to go.
sweet thanks for the advice
Actually, I think the GS500 would be legal in Ultralightweight Superbike even.
Go to http://www.ccsracing.us
There will be the new rule book that you can download, and that will give you some specifics.
The GS isn't what we can call a top of the line race bike, but it can get you started at a low expense.
Minimally, it will have to be safety wired according to what CCS requires, not a lot, steel braided brake lines are always good, and a lower fairing that will hold oil in the event that the bike's engine pops or just blows out coolant or oil.
You'll need to be certified as a rider for a road racing license too.
ok, so i have a little bit of work ahead of me to do on my gs. I know this may sounds a little stupid, but How do i get certified on my gs for a "road racing license"? :ahhh:. im a little lost with the racing scence :p and im just now starting from zero. thanks once again for the great info :biggrin:
We're leading you a bit.
Scotty and I teach a riding school that also can certify you for your road racing license. What is certification? It's putting you through a program that measures your ability to deal with on track situations, track side communication, and the processes of racing, registration and the like.
Where are you located?
We don't do certifications exclusively. There are some programs in different parts of the country that offer these services during the CCS weekend program. I used to do that with CCS, but I wanted to work more on the mechanics of riding, suspension, etc. We work with licensed road racers in some of our programs.
well i figured you guys are much more experience than i am and thats cool that you guys teach other people. I'm currently located in Miami,fl but ill be moving over the summer to Jacksonville,fl. now what riding schools could you recommend that would teach enough so that i could everntually become certefied for a raod racing license?
Ok, I don't have any links...
Penguin Road Racing School comes to Florida during the winter and does some stuff..
I think Frank Kinsey might still does some stuff.
And Henry Degow runs the CCS Florida region...he might have a program there.
Those would be my initial ideas for you. Hopefully, some of the Florida dudes will chime in with some info. Scotty and I are up in the Chicago and Milwaukee areas teaching at http://www.blackhawkfarms.com and http://www.hpt.com
Puts us a couple miles from you... :biggrin:
Ed Bargy puts on racing schools at Jennings GP sometimes. Its a sweet track and good place to go to a school. Its fairly economical too. Check the website out.
http://www.edbargyracingschool.com/
thanks for all of the info super dave :cheers:, guess ill have to take a roadtrip to chicago :biggrin:. i was reading about the Frank Kinsey school, i think ill try that if not ill have to wait till jennings during june. well happy new years to everyone and thanks for the help
As above, Ed Bargy puts on good stuff too.
Hope it all goes well. Make sure you have fun!
will do, thanks. any recomendations on any affordable leathers or boots? i was looking around and i found some cheap ones on starcycle (tecknic CHICANE LEATHERS and sgv sports the DIABLO Leather 2PC Suit). well thankls for any info
Call Lithium Motorsports. They have some great deals on leathers right now. Plus they know what they're talking about since they race in the stuff, unlike your average shop.
Call them at (712) 546-7747
Also check the commercial classifieds on this board, they are blowing out some stuff on ebay.
And don't buy cheap leathers/boots/helmet.
Cheap leathers are that. Unless you can find a used set of good leathers. I might be selling my Vanson Leather rental fleet. Those are great leathers. Even after you go down on a set, they still have value and protection.
Boots. Well, I've crashed in a lot of boots. Never had any foot injuries racing. There are boots that have protection for the flex at the ankle, and I like that idea. I don't know if it is completely necessary. Again, if you can find a used set, better yet. Oxtar and Sidi seem pretty consistent. Alpinestar seems to make a good looking set, but as a person always on a budget, I never had great longevity from them, or their gloves.
I will agree with JBraun, Lithium has great prices on gear and everything else. 1(800)894-7190 is their toll free number.
Getting started you could check out Sportbike Track Time trackdays at Homestead before you move north. Good luck and have fun :thumb:
www.newenough.com,, but BOB (big contributor here)at www.Lithiummotorsports.com has a great deal with $399 suits and sportbiketrackgear.com gets a big vote - If you keep checking want/ads gear for sale here,you may do well also depending on your time/needs - Your gonna love :boink: this stuff!Happy New Year! :thumb:john in nj
I don't know Bob, but Rob at Lithium has always taken good care of me. :thumb:
Yep, I'll recommend Lithium too. Rob (and everyone else there) have always take great care of me. Best bang for the buck is the MotoGP suit.
The Vanson suits are great suits as well. I've "tested" more than one set in the past.
For boots Sidi's are my personal preference.
One thing you DON'T want to go cheap on is your safety gear. You live a lot longer to enjoy this sport. Get the best helmet money can buy, good leathers, boots, and gloves and you should be fine for your off track excursions. Trust me, you don't want to be crashing wearing cheap stuff. Stay away from Starcycle, their prices are too high. Goto www.sportbiketrackgear.com, www.1888fastlap.com, or www.indysuperbikes.com for all your racing needs.
sweet thanks for all the great info u guys, i really apriciate it and look into all of it. I alrady got a helmet the other day an hjc and some used gloves from my neigbour, now just need the leather and the boots :cheers: and happy new years!
CCS has a race at Homestead Feb. 10th-11th. Come hang out and talk to the racers, and you will learn alot. My teammate and I will be there. CCS 187 (ME) and CCS 521. I used to race MX too. I miss being able to race on a sane amount of money. Say good buy to your wallet.
if your 190-225-6 foot tall, i have a 2pc whitredblack no scuffs $125 shipped usa- email johnweinssen@hotmail.com, i'll send pics! John in NJ
thanks, but im 150 and 5,6
should a known another guy to woop me down the straights! good luck!john
jgalt187 sure will do bro, i love that track