OK, I'm hoping this turns out to be a good thread, and I think this is worth discussing.
There are 1000's of pages of rules for CCS, ASRA, WERA, AMA, AHRMA ect.....
What are the unwritten rules of racers? A lot may be personal, a lot may be known publically throughout the pits.
If you make a bone head move on the track and bump somebody or scare the crap out of them, look that person up in the paddock immediately following that race or practice session and say "sorry" or "oops, I didn't mean to do that".
Always give the cornerworkers a thumbs up, and if you have the time when you see them in the paddock, say thank you. Also, thank the staff, they work hard, long days too!
Always be nice to the leather lady. She could save your ass some day!!!!
Quote from: h2o_motorsports on November 01, 2006, 01:28:14 PM
Always be nice to the leather lady. She could save your ass some day!!!!
:biggrin:
Veterans and Experts....be forthcoming and proactive with information, wisdom, and facts on this forum, in the paddock, at Rider's meetings.
clean your wheels before you drop em off at the tire vendor... :cheers:
a good general rule of thumb that applies to many different areas of life..."take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but foot prints"
this goes for scrub tires, and empty gas cans to safety wire scraps and hand towels...
1. don't be too proud to say you're sorry (even if you think you're right).
2. don't be too angry to forgive someone
3. lend a part or a hand to your competitors
4. help your neighbor with his/her stand when nobody else does
5. offer others some food or drink
6. throw your noisy generator off a cliff
7. pick up after yourself
8. pick up after your dog
9. remind others to follow #7 & #8
10. bring water to someone you don't know during a red flag
There's 10 that I thought of off hand...
11. don't stand at a fence and talk bad about someone you don't really know who is on the track. You never know who is standing next to you that knows/loves that slow poke..
Quote from: Jeff on November 01, 2006, 02:15:21 PM
1. don't be too proud to say you're sorry (even if you think you're right).
2. don't be too angry to forgive someone
3. lend a part or a hand to your competitors
4. help your neighbor with his/her stand when nobody else does
5. offer others some food or drink
6. throw your noisy generator off a cliff
7. pick up after yourself
8. pick up after your dog
9. remind others to follow #7 & #8
10. bring water to someone you don't know during a red flag
11. don't stand at a fence and talk bad about someone you don't really know who is on the track. You never know who is standing next to you that knows/loves that slow poke..
:cheers: :thumb:
Having a White Plate does not make you a God. Remember that inexperienced (read novice) racers share the track with you. Your rank does not give you the right punish/repremand/discipline or espescially kick at novice riders when they are in your line.
Buy all your parts trackside from Lithium Motorsports!
Keep Jeff's list going...
12. You can never wreck on the warm up lap
13. You can never wreck on the cool down lap
14. When you wreck, get up, make a point to let the corner works know you are ok (assuming you are), and get out of the impact area...Tons of Red Flags cause people stand there like :wtf: do I do now...Pick you bike up and get it out of the way if you can
15. Don't be super slow in the warm up lap...People and bikes get hot on the grid waiting for you...
16. Always clean your Rims before you bring em' to the tire guy to be changed
17. Make sure your pit bike is not as loud as a Weedwacker...And if it is, don't take it to the bathroom at 3:00am while you do wheelies...
The overtaking rider has the responsability to make the pass clean.
When overtaking, show the rider a wheel before you get to the apex or give them lots of room.
help the guy/gal coming into his/her pits and put the bike up on the rear stand for them
just remember the rules af karma
You are not Nicky Hayden or Valentino Rossi and you won't be tommorrow......leave your ego and attitude at home, they're not needed at the race track
You cannot win the race in turn one on the first lap.
Donate to the Red Flag and RRW air fence funds.
Mentor newbies, just as you were once mentored to. It is the only way to repay that karmic debt. And if someone you're teaching ends up able to smoke you, be proud of that, not bitter about it.
Don't try a pass that has a high percentage of crashing the guy you're passing.
If you FUBAR totally and put yourself into an unsavable situation, racer's honor demands that you crash yourself rather than taking out the other rider.
Never steal from anyone at the track. Seriously injure anyone you catch stealing, then tell everyone from the race director to the cashier at the concession stand about the lowlife thief. (This is an all-purpose rule suitable for everyday life as well.)
Share anything you have with those in need. You'll either make a friend for life, or you'll get fucked. Either way, you'll know how to deal with that person from now on....
Ask anyone for anything if you're in a jam, and make damn sure you pay them back.
If you can't pay them back right away, call them every few weeks just to remind them that you remember that you still owe them.
If you're chilling and drinking beer while some guy you never met before is two pits down the road trying to rebuild his bike with bleeding hands and sprained wrists, you're just an unfeeling piece of shit.
If you don't know the answer, don't make shit up. The guy you lie to may risk his life based on your bogus advice.
Have some integrety. If your sponsor turns out to be untrustworthy, don't continue to pimp the guy just because he's taking care of you.
If you're still physically capable, pick up your own damn bike and get it the hell out of the way! You're wearing a lot more protective gear than the corner workers are, and you put the bike there in the first place!
For the Profesional level Amateurs out there that are running lap times capable of getting them on the grid of an AMA Pro race:
YOUR NOT RACING THE EXPERTS WITH THAT YELLOW PLATE ON YOUR BIKE! It's great you've been able to sandbag as long as possible without having the integrity to seek upgrading yourself, but don't be doing BS over aggresive block passes on Experts your not even racing against as you go up thru the field (future Karma comes to mind here). You've proven your point by being so fast, now be a man and get a white plate and stop cherry picking!
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When you see another racer stranded along the Interstate with truck or trailer problems stop and offer assistance or a ride to the track, even if it will force you to miss getting that prime pit location or miss some practice time.
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Think of the others at the track, including the spectators. Don't set-up your pits so that it doesn't allow people to freely walk along the fence surrounding the racing surface. There's always somebody that doesn't leave room for people to walk along the fence as they spectate, take pictures, or video the racing - very selfish. Leaving 5 or 10 feet between your pit space and the spectating fence is appreciated by all.
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Don't be the person that screws it up for everyone else by being an idiot at the track, total disregard for those 'stupid pit bike rules' may eventually result in all of us walking and not having pit bikes at all. Oh ya, wasn't that a major factor in how the pit bike 'fee' at BFR came to be in the 1st place? :finger:
If you have a noisy generator, bring enough long extension cords yo get if as far away as you can from everyone else.
If your camping and listing to your car stereo at night, be respectful of your neighbors that are camping and turn it down, some people are trying to get a decent nights sleep!
Karma is circular, always help out those in obvious need. I can't even count how many times I've been bailed out by a fellow racer who is a total stranger.
Second is something Pedrosa needs to learn... when you decide it's time to pass you need to be sure that the tighter angle is something you can handle without crashing because it's not just you that's going down.
ALWAYS HAVE FUN!
I know it's been kind of mentioned but...
If you take someone out (like I was at Daytona during the Am SS race) be a man or woman, find the guy or girl and apologize! I know I've made some questionable passes in the past and went out of my way to find the person and apologize. So far all I've herd was something like "It's cool, good pass." I just wanted to make sure it was "cool".
PICK UP YOUR SAFETY WIRE! -Snack
As a slower rider, although follow the race line but leave 18" on either side of you so that faster riders can safely pass.
Do not hold up riders with a different plate color than your own or put them at risk.
Do not subject other riders to risk you are not prepaped to face.
Do not cut across slower starters after the green unless you have at least a path lenght and they are slower than you.
If you see someone wrestling with their EZ-up by themselves, walk over and give them a hand. Even if they appear to know what they're doing, I guarantee you they will appreciate it.
Quote from: tshort on November 02, 2006, 12:55:28 PM
If you see someone wrestling with their EZ-up by themselves, walk over and give them a hand. Even if they appear to know what they're doing, I guarantee you they will appreciate it.
Tom I would gladly help you put up your ez up. But you never do appear to know what you are doing.
Quote from: deltadave on November 01, 2006, 01:09:35 PM
If you make a bone head move on the track and bump somebody or scare the crap out of them, look that person up in the paddock immediately following that race or practice session and say "sorry" or "oops, I didn't mean to do that".
I'm all for that, so which one of you was out of control and crashed into me pushing me into the wall in turn 4 at Summit Point on July 2nd in the middle weight gp amateur race? hmmm?
I have one that I feel very strongly about.
If someone is kind enough to help you in your hour of need after a crash and give you a critical part to get your bike up and running again. Please by all means, remember how important that part was and how critical it was for you to borrow it.
Make it equally as important to get that part back to the lender as it was to borrow in the first place.
Z
Great topic and responses...
A couple more that come to mind:
Try to keep an eye on your neighbor's pit area when they're out on the track.
Respect the paddock speed limit and slow down around kids, dogs and other folks there to enjoy the races.
Buy your tires from the vendors there supporting the racers.
No matter where you are in the paddock or what you are trying to do at that moment, please stop what you're doing, remove your headgear and stand for the singing of the National Anthem.
Never assume the tire guys have put the correct amount of air pressure in your tires!!!
No matter where you are in the paddock or what you are trying to do at that moment, please stop what you're doing, remove your headgear and stand for the singing of the National Anthem
As a veteran I strongly agree!! And NEVER take anything for granted!! :cheers:
Quote from: PJ on November 02, 2006, 09:41:37 PM
No matter where you are in the paddock or what you are trying to do at that moment, please stop what you're doing, remove your headgear and stand for the singing of the National Anthem.
:thumb: Thank you. The national anthem takes about a minute, during which you don't have ANYTHING more important to do. Show some respect and class (and take your hat off for god's sake...)
Quote from: loc_dogg on November 02, 2006, 11:24:46 PM
No matter where you are in the paddock or what you are trying to do at that moment, please stop what you're doing, remove your headgear and stand for the singing of the National Anthem
As a veteran I strongly agree!! And NEVER take anything for granted!! :cheers:
I agree..pisses me off when I see peeps still walkin around. Take the hat off and stop hat youre doing
Quote from: tzracer on November 02, 2006, 03:22:05 PM
Tom I would gladly help you put up your ez up. But you never do appear to know what you are doing.
True that. Flip, tho, usually is the one doing the wrastling... ;-) Me? I save it for the track! Woohoo. :thumb:
Here's a hot one: be discrete about oggling fellow racers wifes/gf and daughters. My eldest daughter's comment after coming home was "White Trash!!"
Quote from: SVR6#231 on November 03, 2006, 01:04:31 PM
Here's a hot one: be discrete about oggling fellow racers wifes/gf and daughters. My eldest daughter's comment after coming home was "White Trash!!"
LOL. I've never :rollseyes: been a victim of that behavior. :lmao:
Quote from: spyderchick on November 03, 2006, 01:24:39 PM
LOL. I've never :rollseyes: been a victim of that behavior. :lmao:
Sorry Alexa your just too damn cute!!!!
I like to oggle all the racers in leather :spank:
Quote from: deltadave on November 01, 2006, 01:09:35 PM
If you make a bone head move on the track and bump somebody or scare the crap out of them, look that person up in the paddock immediately following that race or practice session and say "sorry" or "oops, I didn't mean to do that".
Sorry agian. :kissy:
Don't hit on your friend's girlfriend while he is out on the track racing. Don't tell the girls you're dating to meet you at the track on the same race weekend. Don't eat any track food right before a GT race. Don't wake up the whole paddock at 3:00 am whilst doing doughnuts coming back from the strip club. Never ever let Edgar start buying shots. Just because Evel Knieval did a shot of Wild Turkey before every performance doesn't mean you should. Don't turn the generator off when your buddies tire warmers are still plugged in, with his race up shortly. Don't drink more than 5 Red Bulls on a road trip. While on that road trip limit the amount of beef jerky, hard boiled eggs, Taco Bell and pork rinds you consume, for the sake of those around you. Never wake your buddy up from a nap and tell him his race is up next, watch him run around, even though the race isn't for another hour.
Quote from: TTR174 on November 03, 2006, 04:13:55 PM
Never wake your buddy up from a nap and tell him his race is up next, watch him run around, even though the race isn't for another hour.
I am SOOO doing that to Wu next year!!
Quote from: Spooner on November 03, 2006, 05:05:48 PM
I am SOOO doing that to Wu next year!!
Shit. I was going to do that to you next year.
ALWAYS leave your pit area cleaner than when you 1st arrived, even if it's not your mess it only takes a few seconds to pick up garbage and throw it away.
NEVER leave tires or fuel cans at the track, CCS gets charged for them and that cost get's passed on to us!
Also slip a few greenbacks to your crash truck driver when he hauls your bike back. :biggrin:
Although you usually don't meet at the most opportune times, don't forget to thank your cornerworkers.
Never place a garlic clove in your buddy's mouth vent on their helmet. Never replace Gatorade with a clear alcoholic substance (post race celebration use only). Never turn your buddy's leathers inside out right before a race. This also goes for helping them out, by hooking the helmet strap up while the helmet is on the bench. Never swap your buddy's $$$MR9 with pump gas just so your pit bike has a sweet exhaust smell.
Gas makes bikes go. You may need it. Wear ear plugs.
Don't do the hot-lap with a dime between your teeth.
Don't adjust your rebound with said dime, on the grid.
Don't hand the dime to the guy gridded next to you at the 1-minute board .... confusing him and causing him to think about 'why' you just handed him a dime on the grid.
Don't laugh when the guy is staring at the dime when the green flag drops, and you're gone.
:spank:
Dave? :lmao:
My mantra:
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Heather :cheers:
Don't mean to beat a dead horse (as much fun as that sounds) but when you take someone out (on the last corner of the WARM UP LAP) stick around and see if they're ok. Packing up the truck and leaving ASAP doesn't make friends :finger:
Quote from: Speedballer347 on November 06, 2006, 11:02:34 AM
Don't do the hot-lap with a dime between your teeth.
Don't adjust your rebound with said dime, on the grid.
Don't hand the dime to the guy gridded next to you at the 1-minute board .... confusing him and causing him to think about 'why' you just handed him a dime on the grid.
Don't laugh when the guy is staring at the dime when the green flag drops, and you're gone.
:spank:
Dave? :lmao:
It was a penny....
Keep your nads covered up :err:
Quote from: AM_#76 on November 07, 2006, 09:24:29 AM
Keep your nads covered up :err:
Guy, do you have a traumatic experience you need to share?
many of us do Alexa... Just trust us when we say that now we know why Scotty Ryan's hair is bullet-proof
Quote from: Jeff on November 07, 2006, 03:27:55 PM
many of us do Alexa...
:wtf:
WOH!!!!!!!!!! Alexa? Is this true? I thought you were a respectful lady.
:lmao:
Sorry Jeff, that was too easy.
No offense I hope.
Nick
Nick, you are a bad boy... :spank:
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist that one. I'll buy you a beer at the banquet. :cheers:
Quote from: grasshopper on November 07, 2006, 03:45:53 PM
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist that one. I'll buy you a beer at the banquet. :cheers:
:biggrin:
I set 'em up, you knock 'em down... dang.... I don't toss a slow one like that out too often without realizing it.
Quote from: Jeff on November 07, 2006, 03:56:27 PM
I set 'em up, you knock 'em down... dang.... I don't toss a slow one like that out too often without realizing it.
You must be working too hard. :ahhh:
Quote from: funsizeracing on November 07, 2006, 02:35:17 PM
?? :wtf:
See the thread below for my story of Super Dave's debauchery :ahhh:
http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,15005.0.html (http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,15005.0.html)
See? Now that was so disturbng, even I had blocked it out, and I wasn't there. :lmao:
Quote from: spyderchick on November 07, 2006, 04:43:52 PM
See? Now that was so disturbng, even I had blocked it out, and I wasn't there. :lmao:
The whole experience was sooooo surreal. You know what you just saw, but you just can not believe it happened.
I want to forget
I want to forget
I want to forget
I want to forget
I want to forget
I want to forget
I want to forget
It just does not work, no matter how many times I try.
Bubble gum everywhere.
AHHHHHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Jeff on November 07, 2006, 03:27:55 PM
many of us do Alexa... Just trust us when we say that now we know why Scotty Ryan's hair is bullet-proof
UMMMM...............
Never hit the bike in front of you.
don't throw anchor coming into a fast corner!
Alot of these replies are writen laws, yet I have one that is not. Always poop before your race or atleast try just in case! :err:
Quote from: loc_dogg on November 09, 2006, 10:16:27 PM
Alot of these replies are writen laws, yet I have one that is not. Always poop before your race or atleast try just in case! :err:
Thats free horsepower right there!!
Quote from: Spooner on November 10, 2006, 01:49:01 PM
Thats free horsepower right there!!
1 free rwhp for every 7 pounds!
A 7lb turd?!?! :err: No wonder I can't breath and almost puke when I'm dropping the kids off at the pool in the blackhawk outhouse in morning.
Quote from: 251am on November 10, 2006, 02:57:42 PM
1 free rwhp for every 7 pounds!
Did you skip class? We covered this topic already.
he was in the bathroom.
Quote from: tzracer on November 13, 2006, 03:03:36 PM
Did you skip class? We covered this topic already.
Dont mind Todd, he painted without a respirator.:biggrin:
Quote from: Team_Serpent on November 09, 2006, 04:10:36 PM
Never hit the bike in front of you.
Couldnt agree with this one more!