Just a heads up for all those that plan on applying for one. Cost of admission is $375.00 a year.
Section I: LICENSE REGULATIONS
A. AMA Pro Racing licensed riders not qualifying in AMA Pro Racing sanctioned events for a period of three years may lose their prior classification.
B. Applicants renewing a license that has been expired three or more years must complete a Road Race Eligibility Questionnaire.
C. All rider classifications are issued at the discretion of AMA Pro Racing.
Section II: LICENSE CLASSIFICATION/ELIGIBILITY
1. Expert License
An AMA Pro Racing Expert License is issued to eligible riders who have reached the age of 16 years and meets the following criteria:
• Successfully complete at least two full racing seasons (including at least 20 race weekends) of road racing competition with recognized organizations, with at least one full racing season (including at least 10 race weekends) as a full Expert riding a motorcycle(s) eligible for AMA Pro Racing classes.
• Earn at least 300 Expert points, from a recognized RR organization, riding a motorcycle(s) eligible for AMA Pro Racing classes.
• All new applicants must complete and have certified by the recognized organization the Road Race Eligibility Questionnaire
verifying Expert classification and points earned.
• Provide a copy of your current expert rated card with the recognized organization you are submitting points from.
UPDATE
* Note all points are calculated at face value from the racing organzation in question. "There is no limit on riders in a race any longer. We just take the club's points for face value. This way is easier for all riders. We don't use our own point scale any longer. "
Question:
Do you think the AMA will use your Actual Points or your Adjusted Points as a CCS Racer? I would imagine you Actual?
So what if there weren't 10 rounds in your series...
They probably won't use your actual points. In the past it has always been an adjusted points scale.
I would say since CCS uses the adjusted points to calculate everything that AMA would use the adjusted points.
Quote from: Jeff on October 30, 2006, 11:52:27 AM
They probably won't use your actual points. In the past it has always been an adjusted points scale.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe CCS is the only org that uses the "Adjusted" points...I do not think WERA does...
The adjusted points was put in place by CCS so people can not buy championships as easy...I would think that AMA would used Actual...
I have already E-Mailed them asking about this and the 10 weekends question that Spooner asked...
Aren't adjusted points only used for the overall championship? I think in individual class championships, it's straight points.
I'm not talking about CCS adjusted points.
I'm saying that AMA has a scale and where you finished in your race with X competitors has a specific point value to the AMA regardless of what CCS points reflect.
I'll see if I can find it.
nevermind. Looks like AMA did away with their own points scale when getting an AMA license.
http://www.amaproracing.com/prorace/pdf/Road%20Race%20Regs%20Eligibility%20final.pdf
Previously, the AMA had their own points scale which would be applicable for licensing.
Yeah, I think that's what was posted at the bottom of post number one.
Quote from: Jeff on October 30, 2006, 12:47:12 PM
I'm not talking about CCS adjusted points.
I'm saying that AMA has a scale and where you finished in your race with X competitors has a specific point value to the AMA regardless of what CCS points reflect.
I'll see if I can find it.
Ah...Got you...And you already found it above 8)
Quote from: Super Dave on October 30, 2006, 12:50:52 PM
Yeah, I think that's what was posted at the bottom of post number one.
Yep. sorry, I didn't see that on my initial post and didn't go back to re-read.
This should thin the backmarker population ........... as well as keeping former Daytona 200 winners sons, who never competed in an actual roadrace, off the grid. :thumb:
I dunno Gordy... I'd still qualify for a license :-)
Quote from: weggieman on October 30, 2006, 01:30:02 PM
This should thin the backmarker population ...........
I think it would be the other way...300 CCS Points is pretty easy to do...The only question I have is the weekends...
Quote from: weggieman on October 30, 2006, 01:30:02 PM
......as well as keeping former Daytona 200 winners sons, who never competed in an actual roadrace, off the grid. :thumb:
I doubt it.... in the AMA it's definitely "who you know"
I wonder how they will take it if I only have 240 points in my region, 200 and something at Miller and a number of points at WERA Nationals? I have the 10 races under my belt as an expert....but...what the hell?
ok... so in a newb to the whole racing thing.. but whats the deal with points for ama? what does it matter, ama, ccs, or wera points?
Quote from: weggieman on October 30, 2006, 01:30:02 PM
This should thin the backmarker population ........... as well as keeping former Daytona 200 winners sons, who never competed in an actual roadrace, off the grid. :thumb:
OUCH! Dave helped me a lot in the past so I won't comment, but I can see your point on it anyway.
On the backmarker issue, I strongly disagree. Superbike has become the most boring racing on TV... not because of backmarkers, but in spite of them. Personally, I'd rather watch guys fighting it out who don't have TC. And these "backmarkers" are anything but slow, I think we all know that. They are backmarkers due to the winner's pace... which is too much for ANYONE to keep up with on most weekends. Yamaha's return to SB will help, but it's offset by the loss of Ducati. Looks like another year of watching places 10 through 20 for future stars.
Nothing against Dave but his kid didn't belong on that grid, as you agreed. I don't think he ran another AMA race all year after that.
It will def. be easier for CCS racers than WERA racers to get an AMA license under the new system. 1st place in WERA is only 20 points, 1st place in CCS is 35 points . It doesn't make sense, they should continue to use a standard points system.
Quote from: kylbie on October 31, 2006, 02:07:01 AM
ok... so in a newb to the whole racing thing.. but whats the deal with points for ama? what does it matter, ama, ccs, or wera points?
In order to receive an AMA Pro license there are certain criteria to be looked at, and met, before the AMA will grant you a Pro license. As Scotty(TTR174) listed above requirements that can be read for yourself, you would have to clarify your question if it's not answered by reading the criteria.
Having gained Expert status in WERA or CCS is not in itself enough of an accomplishment. The AMA would like to know you have also attained some speed on course so you are not a safety hazard during the event. Get it?
who's scotty?