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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: xseal on August 11, 2006, 06:46:24 PM

Title: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: xseal on August 11, 2006, 06:46:24 PM
What happened?
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: sksracerwife on August 11, 2006, 07:07:30 PM
Moon Super Cycle won GTO 6 for 6!!!

Scott Harwood and Calvin Martinez

YAY!!! 8)
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: Bubba on August 11, 2006, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: sksracerwife on August 11, 2006, 07:07:30 PM
Moon Super Cycle won GTO 6 for 6!!!

Scott Harwood and Scott Harwood
YAY!!! 8)
There I fixed it for ya!  :lmao:
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: sksracerwife on August 11, 2006, 10:33:28 PM
Thanks Bubba! :lmao:

I do know from when Scott called me that they beat the 2nd overall team by 2 laps. :thumb: I'll let him post more when he gets home. Now we are playing the waiting game with VIR and the new Harwood family addition. Good news is my doctor thinks she will come early. We hope! 8)
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: xseal on August 11, 2006, 10:39:10 PM
what about GTL ?
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: tzracer on August 15, 2006, 06:31:50 PM
We (myself, Meghan and Mark Stiles) got 2nd place in GTL on a TZ125.
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: afeuer on August 16, 2006, 09:05:13 AM
I took Ben Thompson (WERA #1 plate holder) with me and he was recruited to ride with Calvin. He lapped the entire field twice while he was on the bike.  That's why they won by 2 laps.
Title: Barber TC
Post by: sksracerwife on August 16, 2006, 02:33:12 PM



Um I DON"T THINK SO!!! Ben lapped the field ONCE and Scott lapped the field ONCE! So the 2 laps were from BOTH riders! It seems to me that everyone always seems to forget that Scott laps the field. May I refer you to the RRW article after Summit Point. Get your facts straight before you try to make it sound like YOUR friend kicked a$$ and Scott just puttered around!

BTW several people SAW Scott lap the field!!! Don' get me started! You don't want to go a round with me when you don't have a clue what you are talking about!!
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: scottg22 on August 16, 2006, 05:47:59 PM
FINALLY!! Some WERA BBS type of action on this chuggin' along board!!   :thumb:  haha

Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: wvracer97 on August 16, 2006, 06:31:25 PM
Wow, guess my wife had somethin' to say! :kicknuts:

But she is right.  When the red flag came out our team was up by 1 lap on the entire field with Ben out there.  We hadn't made our rider change yet, so we were at risk of losing that 1 lap up because we would have had to come back in after the restart to do the rider change.  But Calvin came up with a brilliant idea to have Ben go out for the warmup lap and come in to pit so I could take the restart from pit row.  Rider change satisfied!  Problem with that is that the race official would not let me go until the entire field was clear of turn 1.  So I had to chase the field down to get the lap back and I passed them all to put us up by 2 laps by the end of it.

We also had our lap timer on the entire race and Ben and I had virtually the same lap times-- his best in the :34's and my best in the :35's.  Not bad for a LONG race with changing conditions and nasty humidity :biggrin:

Regardless, I'd like to give another big thanks to Ben for riding with the team-- he's a really cool dude with SKILLS :cheers: :cheers:

I'm starting to feel like Rodney Dangerfield.... I can't get any respect! :banghead:
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: nfcracin on August 16, 2006, 09:32:32 PM
 Scott,
your rider change was not legal
because it took place before the green flag.

we asked Phil about it
and he said if we would have protested you would have been DQed.

so you got lucky   :ass: :ass:


Lonny
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: benprobst on August 16, 2006, 09:34:26 PM
illegal +1
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: wvracer97 on August 17, 2006, 12:32:23 AM
 :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

That's funny... sort of.

Before the decision was made we verified our strategy with the race director and Kevin Elliot.  Totally legal.

Moot point, though, even if our team was wrong.  We would still have won by at least one lap even if we had to come back in after the restart under the green flag.

We're fast and consistent-- that's why we haven't lost yet.  See you at VIR (my home track).   :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: benprobst on August 17, 2006, 06:43:31 PM
10.4.3 Pit Stops-All teams will be required to stop at least once for a mandatory rider
change. Therefore, pit road will be closed to all spectators for the duration of the
Team Challenge. Only credentialed riders and crew may be on pit road during the
event
A. Rider Change- All teams must change riders at least once during the event. There is
no minimum or maximum time per rider. Mandatory rider changes cannot be done
while race is stopped during a red flag situation.


No biggie, you guys whipped everyones but, no doubt about that, its just that rules keep racing, racing. anyway, it wouldnt have been a matter of coming in to serve a penalty, they would have slapped a big DQ on your front plate. But hey, that didnt happen, and you guys were flying so you won.
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: wvracer97 on August 17, 2006, 08:43:24 PM
I'm not one to usually get wrapped up in rules interpretation, but for some reason I feel motivated to argue-- I mean discuss-- this point.  Check this out:

3.4.4 Starting Procedures
A. Three calls will be made prior to the start of the countdown for each race. All
competitors should report to the designated staging area prior to the final call.
B. The countdown will commence by display of a green flag and a number board,
usually beginning with #5. At that display, all riders may proceed on one lap of the
circuit, returning to their assigned grid positions.


What everyone is missing here is that the red flag gets taken down when the 5 board comes up and the green waves to commence the warm up lap.  That means GREEN TRACK, not red flag until the grid is launched with the 1 board.  This should end all discussion on this point as we are right.  Completely.  Just think about it, bikes would never be let go on a warmup lap with the course still red.

Don't hate the player, hate the game :biggrin:
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: nfcracin on August 17, 2006, 10:12:16 PM
A. Rider Change- All teams must change riders at least once during the event. There is
no minimum or maximum time per rider. Mandatory rider changes cannot be done
while race is stopped during a red flag situation.


from the above racing is still stopped till the green flag for the restart
the warm-up lap is not the start of racing   :kicknuts: :cheers:
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: wvracer97 on August 17, 2006, 10:28:06 PM
If you insist on arguing I will be forced to decline riding for you guys next year! :spank: :biggrin:

You know what that means... :err:  Probably nothing! :cheers:

So let's move on and dump this thread.
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: nfcracin on August 18, 2006, 04:47:50 PM
Good now I can quit looking for next years riders  :biggrin: :biggrin:

See ya at VIR
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: wvracer97 on August 18, 2006, 08:23:52 PM
Boy, I sure hope Calvin doesn't lurk on this board :biggrin:            :thumb:
Title: Re: Barber TC results? ???
Post by: Protein Filled on August 18, 2006, 10:55:26 PM
Ingenious!