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Title: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: twistedrider717 on August 02, 2006, 05:08:42 PM
Quoting David Coulthard, "I would have thought that the bike, at a track like this, would have been quicker at the top speed. But because it doesn't have downforce, and it only has a little contact patch of rubber, then it doesn't have the grip that we have. So it's not a fair competition in reality. In terms of skill required and bravery for the lap there is no doubt - the bike is requiring more concentration than the car."

http://today.reuters.com/tv/videoChannel.aspx?storyid=11d6fc49605e6fc12cdeb5e9d59f3f21ee827f7f
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: spyderchick on August 02, 2006, 05:27:21 PM
Very cool! Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: Pierre - Team PMR on August 02, 2006, 05:49:23 PM
wish they would have shown more of the bike VS car.  I always wondered about that.  I always knew a F1 was faster in corners because of the tire size to weight ratio...but always wondered on the drive out, under breaking and just general acceleration.

Cool video - thanks!
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: cbirk on August 02, 2006, 06:02:15 PM
cool.. 8) Never seen that one.
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: Jason748 on August 02, 2006, 10:19:07 PM
My question is why not make if fair and put them up agianst a GP bike
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: cbirk on August 03, 2006, 01:20:41 AM
Quote from: Jason748 on August 02, 2006, 10:19:07 PM
My question is why not make if fair and put them up agianst a GP bike
yeah, I was thinking thinking the same thing. They put it up against a 1000rr. Like c'mon get real.....I wonder who was riding it even?
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: Bubba on August 03, 2006, 01:57:01 AM
If you compare lap times F1 cars KILL GP bikes everywhere! :spank:
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: MELK-MAN on August 03, 2006, 12:37:35 PM
+1, there is no comparo at all for an F1 vs. ANY rider of ANY gp bike..You can not compete with over 1k HP and 100x the contact patch AND massive downforce.
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: Jason748 on August 03, 2006, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: Bubba on August 03, 2006, 01:57:01 AM
If you compare lap times F1 cars KILL GP bikes everywhere! :spank:

True, but it would make for a better "show".  The bikes always going to lose out on braking and corner speed.
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: Johnny_P on August 04, 2006, 09:21:44 PM
What is interesting is that the GP bikes reach a higher top speed at Jerez than F1 (At least a couple years ago that was the case).  Lap times favor the F1 cars, but interesting none the less.
Title: Re: Red Bull Racing comparison: Superbike vs. F1 vs. Airplane
Post by: tzracer on August 21, 2006, 03:07:13 PM
Toyota had a current F1 car at Laguna for the historic races. Recardo Zonta (test driver) set a new track record while doing some demonstration laps. He did a 1'06.309 (121.504 average speed). Chris V had the pole at the MotoGP race with 1'23.168. At those times the car would lap the bike in 4 laps.