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Title: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: YellowDesmo998 on July 03, 2006, 05:41:22 PM
I see on the schedule that the track day scheduled for August 10th has been canceled.  Is anyone else picking up that track day?  I haven't been to Barber before and wanted some time on the track.

TIA
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: 1ghiaman on July 03, 2006, 09:34:59 PM
I to, would like some track time before the race. I talked with the track this afternoon asking the same thing, they said they never get enough intrest and usualy loose money. The track rental is $12000 per day so they would need 100 people at $120 per head just to break even. I went to VIR last weekend and did the cornerspeed track day, there was way over 100 people. I think Barber could do it if everyone interested would call the track, they took my name and number. So call!
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: Clay on July 03, 2006, 10:48:41 PM
No friggin' way?!?!  Surely someone will take on that track day.  I don't see how they could get by without making any money.  Barber is always a HUGE event for CCS. 
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: extrakt0r on July 03, 2006, 10:50:08 PM
I know last year pratice was close to $200.00....

Since I have been there before I wasn't going to do pratice, but if the Track Puts on the Pratice and not a 3rd party org (Like NESBA or STT) I would find it hard to believe they could lose money...

Either way...Kind of sucks....
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: MELK-MAN on July 03, 2006, 11:03:46 PM
3 of us had planned on the track day prior to the CCS/ASRA races as well but heard the same thing.
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: YellowDesmo998 on July 04, 2006, 10:31:26 AM
We had 4 guys that were going to do the practice day also. I hope someone steps up and hosts something.
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: Clay on July 04, 2006, 03:30:06 PM
Someone has to, there's ALWAYS a practice/track day on Th!  Considering this is the only CCS event that I've ever known to literally sell out, how could someone not make money off a practice day on Th? 
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: YellowDesmo998 on July 05, 2006, 10:28:16 AM
I just got a call from a rep at Barber.  He said they won't be holding ANY practices in the future before a race weekend except for the two major spectator events.  I'm assuming he means AMA.  So there it goes, no more pre-race practices the day before...
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: 1ghiaman on July 05, 2006, 09:38:18 PM
Cant make any trackdays before and cant learn the track in two short practice sessions so I'm out. :whine:
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: clutch on July 05, 2006, 11:50:13 PM
Quote from: 1ghiaman on July 05, 2006, 09:38:18 PM
Cant make any trackdays before and cant learn the track in two short practice sessions so I'm out. :whine:

was seriously thinking of going if they had a TD the day before, but I'm  not driving 900 miles to a track I have never seen with 2 practices either.
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: RocketJockey on July 06, 2006, 08:21:02 AM
I'm planning on being there! I've never been to Barber and I'm looking forward to the experience. Don't most CCS weekends give you an entire morning of practice sessions the day of the race?

I'm also hoping to field an entry in the TeamChallenge. Anyone know which day that will occur and how/when practice for that will be?

Does Barber have a pretty good following of local guys? Anyone have a count from last year's Team Challenge entries?

Word...
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: clutch on July 06, 2006, 01:08:42 PM
Usually 2 rounds of practice on Saturday morning..about 8 minutes each maybe and 1 round on Sunday about 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: RocketJockey on July 06, 2006, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: clutch on July 06, 2006, 01:08:42 PM
Usually 2 rounds of practice on Saturday morning..about 8 minutes each maybe and 1 round on Sunday about 10 minutes.

What about the TC was on Friday the 11th? Any word/idea on practice for that?

Word...
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: PJ721 on July 06, 2006, 04:27:37 PM
http://www.ccsracing.us/schedules/2006/Barber%20AUG%20SCHEDULE.pdf
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: Burt Munro on July 06, 2006, 04:31:40 PM
Go to this link and check out "Weekend Schedule"

http://ccsracing.us/venues/2006/barber.html
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: STT-GUY on July 06, 2006, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: 1ghiaman on July 03, 2006, 09:34:59 PM
I to, would like some track time before the race. I talked with the track this afternoon asking the same thing, they said they never get enough intrest and usualy loose money. The track rental is $12000 per day so they would need 100 people at $120 per head just to break even. I went to VIR last weekend and did the cornerspeed track day, there was way over 100 people. I think Barber could do it if everyone interested would call the track, they took my name and number. So call!

Plus insurance.... plus cornerworkers (20 minimum),plus security, plus gate workers..... add another 5K easy.
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: GeeMan614 on July 07, 2006, 12:05:07 AM
I had 2 guys going also, no practice, new track, we are staying home. I think the management at Barber is cutting there own necks with this one.
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: STT-GUY on July 07, 2006, 01:15:09 PM
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Quote from: GeeMan614 on July 07, 2006, 12:05:07 AM
I had 2 guys going also, no practice, new track, we are staying home. I think the management at Barber is cutting there own necks with this one.

Ok... the path to enlightenment....

Barber MSP works like this...

Barber Foundation (BF) owns the track.

Zoom Motorsports (ZM)/Bruno Event Team rents the track from Barber Foundation and rents it out. When BF rents the track to ZM they expect FULL payment for the course. If ZM falls short at a "Promoter Practice" due to low turn-out BF doesn't cut ZM a break, ZM eats it.

This is a Business decision... obviously CCS/Kevin Elliott does not feel comfortable putting $16,000+ at risk for a practice day and neither does Zoom Motorsports.. that's business. 

Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: RocketJockey on July 07, 2006, 03:32:55 PM
Excellent! Thank you both!

Word...
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: ecumike on July 07, 2006, 11:38:36 PM
Wow, are you guys shittin me?... just because there's no track day the day before, you're not going to go?  LAME.

It's an easy as fuck track to learn, and there's morning practice AND it's a twin-sprint event, so you can always do better in the second rounds.


Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: G 97 on July 08, 2006, 01:12:59 AM
http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,13096.0.html
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: fatboy122 on July 08, 2006, 07:09:52 PM
never rode there but plan on racing and hoping for the best
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: extrakt0r on July 09, 2006, 02:34:41 PM
For anyone who hasn't been on the track, but is going, I have on-board video from last year when I was at Barber...

www.teamsimoneracing.com goto the Video Gallery...Few Vids of Barber on there...Should help a little...  :cheers:
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: wvracer97 on July 09, 2006, 11:40:36 PM
There is an EASY solution to all of this!  Why doesn't everyone run the Team Challenge... that would be a good practice opportunity.  It's only 175.00 and you get 69 laps!  Better than nothing... just remember to ride smart as there is a championship chase going on! 8)

Plus our team could use the extra money we'll get for first overall with that many bikes on the grid :biggrin:
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: RoadRacer414 on July 10, 2006, 11:23:09 PM
Why is MW SBK, MW SS, HW SS appears twice in the weekend?
Are those clases race two times?

Is the track (garages) going to be close on Thursday?, or just the track?
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: ecumike on July 10, 2006, 11:47:54 PM
Because it's a twin sprint weekend. Sprint races are ran twice.

Barber has garages?
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: RoadRacer414 on July 11, 2006, 12:11:31 AM
I meant parking lot....  :banghead:
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: Bigsexy on July 11, 2006, 05:57:38 AM
Quote from: ecumike on July 10, 2006, 11:47:54 PM

Barber has garages?
Ya they do but ive never been there during a race weekend so im not sure they will be open my freind told me some of them were open during the Kieth Code school
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: Rad625 on July 11, 2006, 01:35:46 PM
I may put on track day if there is enough interest just trying to set it all up track is available talked to Heather a little while ago also Ed Bargy about putting on a school
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: Rad625 on July 11, 2006, 04:04:04 PM
Track day on the 10th I am trying to get it set up now will keep everyone posted
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: Rad625 on July 11, 2006, 07:38:13 PM
CHECK THE http://www.edbargyracingschool.com/ OR THE ANNOUNCEMENT SECTION OF THE BOARD
Title: Re: Barber Aug 11-13 Track Day?
Post by: Clay on July 14, 2006, 06:01:25 PM
Cool deal, thanks guys!