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Motorcycle Talk => Motorcycle Talk => Topic started by: rsvRadtke on June 01, 2006, 03:29:50 PM

Title: Road America lap times
Post by: rsvRadtke on June 01, 2006, 03:29:50 PM
I was wondering what kind of laptimes guys were seeing in the different groups at Road A.  I'm a N00B at track riding and possibly interested in CCS and i am wondering what kind of skill level the different groups seem to have as an average. 

If I hear from you guys that the Beginner class is pulling 2:30's or something..  well, I'll probably try a different hobby  :spank:

So, like I said, I'm curious to find out.

Thanks
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: sasrocks on June 01, 2006, 04:00:49 PM
last year NESBA beginner group was in the 2:50+ range, up to 3:10 or so...
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: Sobottka on June 01, 2006, 06:46:48 PM
 i think most of the fast ams are doing somewhere between 2:36 and 2:40.  r. jensen qualified @2:26  for asra sprtbk but most of the fast ccs experts were in the lower 30s... i think :thumb:
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: spyderchick on June 01, 2006, 06:51:39 PM
Do what's comfortable for you, ask the fast guys questions, and just work on the skillz. Speed will come with seat time. Welcome to the insanity! :ahhh: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: 251am on June 01, 2006, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: rsvRadtke on June 01, 2006, 03:29:50 PM
I was wondering what kind of laptimes guys were seeing in the different groups at Road A.  I'm a N00B at track riding and possibly interested in CCS and i am wondering what kind of skill level the different groups seem to have as an average. 

If I hear from you guys that the Beginner class is pulling 2:30's or something..  well, I'll probably try a different hobby  :spank:

So, like I said, I'm curious to find out.

Thanks


No, try this hobby first. A few years ago I was running low 40s on an '01 GSXR 1000, no special set up. This past spring I was running low 50s on an RC51 with a bad set up. You meet the right people and have some REAL fun on the track. I'm not sure who in the beginner class is running 2:30s, but that's certainly not the average.

PM me if you want some assistance getting set up w/o unloading your wallet. 
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: BuellGirlie on June 05, 2006, 12:42:38 AM
just looked up weekend results from AMA weekend at RA.  if you click here http://www.amaproracing.com/06rr/elkhartlake/index-links.html , and then on "fastest overall time" on each race - you'll see that the pros are going between 2:11 and 2:31 during races.  perhaps your beginner pulling a 2:30 is from a different track?

D
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: Jeff on June 05, 2006, 08:33:02 AM
An amateur in the 2:30's is not unrealistic at all...  2:39.99 is "in the 2:30's". 

The fastest amateurs will be in the lower 2:30's I'm sure...
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: Sobottka on June 05, 2006, 06:11:43 PM
i was doing 2:38s... and didnt win anything! i know for a fact one am was doing 32s... i saw the time sheet  :wtf:
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: danch on June 06, 2006, 10:43:32 AM
Quote from: robsob on June 05, 2006, 06:11:43 PM
i was doing 2:38s... and didnt win anything! i know for a fact one am was doing 32s... i saw the time sheet  :wtf:

These days some guys start with some talent and do a lot of track days before they start to take racing seriously. I'm pretty sure that's the case with the guy running 32s.
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: Jeff on June 06, 2006, 10:45:37 AM
There will always be 1-2 smoking fast amateurs.  Like amateurs who could run top 5-10 pace of EXPERT races.

There were amateurs last year running 13's at BHF.  I'm sure there will be some this year doing the same.
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: sasrocks on June 06, 2006, 03:09:45 PM
the guy said he was a noob at track riding.  that is totally different than quoting fast amatuer race times.

for starting out new to track riding < 3:00 at RA would be a reasonable goal. 
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: rsvRadtke on June 06, 2006, 05:20:38 PM
sasrocks got my question the best I think.  I was just looking for a generalist view of results to know whether I am going to be capable of participating.  My first day at Road A on a new bike I managed to get down to 3:01's. 

I am not after the fastest laptime or winning events, but due to schedules and limited track opportunities on the different tracks in the region I have considered CCS in addition to participating with Nesba to simply get more track time.  My interest in this is more scientific than anything else.  I don't have the "natural" ability that I can just jump on a bike and "feel" my way to 2:45's or something.  I need to research, ask questions, read, try different things - and that is what I enjoy the most about this so far, is the "proving" I feel I am accomplishing for my own benefit. 

Thanks again for all of your responses!!!!
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: Jeff on June 06, 2006, 07:15:16 PM
Shit. aim low.  Get around the track upright...  Worry about times later.  (I think that was stated like the 3rd reply)
Title: Re: Road America lap times
Post by: tshort on June 06, 2006, 08:36:15 PM
And don't compare times before 2004 or so to now - they got rid of the kink and the new Bend adds about 10 secs if memory serves...