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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: Scott on May 18, 2006, 03:53:30 PM

Title: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Scott on May 18, 2006, 03:53:30 PM
Anyone have a clue how much guys like Ben Attard, Jason Pridmore, or Josh Hayes make? 
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Jeff on May 18, 2006, 04:49:23 PM
No clue...  If I were a betting man, I'd say that from all sources they are making around $100-150k.  Just a wild guess though.
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: spyderchick on May 18, 2006, 05:11:28 PM
Factory guys get paid what the contract specifies, and it varies between racers, and classes run. Some get the purse and endorsements, some pull salary, but all are making more than we probably surmise, particularly any racer who has a good marketing strategist behind them.
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Super Dave on May 18, 2006, 06:06:03 PM
Mileage may vary.  Some riders pay to get rides.  Some of those payments might come from sponsors.  Some riders get a salary from their sponsor while getting nothing from the team.  And some get contracts from manufacturers and sponsors. 

And some riders make more money racing for manufacturer contingency with less stress.
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: tstruyk on May 18, 2006, 08:15:59 PM
so in a sense....

some poeple buy things sold and processed, some people process things sold and bought while others sell things at that are bought and processed?  :biggrin:

I have no idea why that movie popped in my head... but reading dave hit all the angles it just seemed to fit!
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: taz on May 18, 2006, 09:07:26 PM
There was a question on the AMA website answered by the staff that said that the salary of the riders is in the mid to upper 6 figures and the topriders clear the million mark.

  http://www.amasuperbike.com/article.php?aid=5111&UID=RDMCNsuFtNOsSbnjsqdPVpqgV76qKm
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Super Dave on May 19, 2006, 08:19:22 AM
Mladin, B.Boz, Duhammel, Spies, Hodgeson...yes.  Go further down, and it can vary.
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: taz on May 19, 2006, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: Super Dave on May 19, 2006, 08:19:22 AM
Mladin, B.Boz, Duhammel, Spies, Hodgeson...yes.  Go further down, and it can vary.

Well he did say factory riders
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Jeff on May 19, 2006, 11:38:11 AM
factory support and factory are 2 distinctly different scenarios...

I believe that Safety First could be classified as factory support...
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: spyderchick on May 19, 2006, 11:53:36 AM
Top tier: Factory team: Paid riders, mechanics and various hangers on, usually have endorsment deals and extensive contracts.

Next: Factory support: Team owner pays the bills, paid or contracted riders, with help from the factory in bikes, parts and technical assistance. Contracts vary by team. Some endorsments are likely.

Then: Privateer with major sponsorship, not factory. Team owner pays the bills, contracted riders, purchases bikes, runs team with sponsor $$$ and winnings.

And last: Privateer: owns own bike, hauls own shit, pays own bills, may or may not have sponsorship $$$ available, usually through Visa-Visa-Matercard. 


Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Super Dave on May 19, 2006, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: taz on May 19, 2006, 11:02:57 AM
Well he did say factory riders

But the original post was about Pat Benattard, Pridmore...

Not factory, but factory support programs, per Alexa's list, which is good.  There are variations among it all, but that puts it pretty simply.

Safety First isn't getting what Attack is.  They aren't at the point yet where they are getting what Attack is getting.  Might see Safety First on the podium this year.  Will be good to watch.
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: xseal on May 20, 2006, 11:49:40 AM
I'm pretty sure there is a tier below the 4th tier Alexa listed, don't know what it is but I'm on it.
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Jeff on May 20, 2006, 12:21:24 PM
Quote from: xseal on May 20, 2006, 11:49:40 AM
I'm pretty sure there is a tier below the 4th tier Alexa listed, don't know what it is but I'm on it.

It would either be "Spectator" or "CCS Guy"... take your pick.
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Super Dave on May 21, 2006, 07:46:36 AM
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And last: Privateer: owns own bike, hauls own shit, pays own bills, may or may not have sponsorship $$$ available, usually through Visa-Visa-Matercard. 

Four - has some sponsorship, websites, owns own bike, and has a massive RV mortgage to haul own shit.

Like that?

Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: EX#996 on May 21, 2006, 08:26:07 AM
Quote from: Super Dave on May 21, 2006, 07:46:36 AM
Four - has some sponsorship, websites, owns own bike, and has a massive RV mortgage to haul own shit.

Like that?



Hey that's us!!! 


Oh wait.....  no it's not.....  We don't race AMA, we don't have any sponsorship or a website....  Heck the first that we may be able to even get out is August or September....







....  but we do have an RV to haul our family to the track.  If it was just Paul going, he'd probably load everything in the back of the truck and go.

Well, back to making some jam.

Dawn   :thumb:
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Jeff on May 22, 2006, 08:14:04 AM
Quote from: EX#996 on May 21, 2006, 08:26:07 AM
If it was just Paul going, he'd probably load everything in the back of the truck and go.

Ditto here...  I'd be a van-guy if I didn't have the family to haul around.  But they're my crew & I couldn't do it without them (literally - I mentally cannot race without my wife at the track.  It's weird.)
Title: Re: How much do those factory support guys make??
Post by: Burt Munro on May 22, 2006, 04:54:22 PM
Quote from: Jeff on May 22, 2006, 08:14:04 AM
Ditto here...  I'd be a van-guy if I didn't have the family to haul around.  But they're my crew & I couldn't do it without them (literally - I mentally cannot race without my wife at the track.  It's weird.)

I have heard a couple of guys mention that they couldn't race without your wife there for inspiration too!