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Title: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: PolishPete on April 04, 2006, 08:13:13 PM
What is a fair price for me to purchase and have a trailor hitch installed onto a 99' Astro Van.  That should be able to tow a trailor (probably not covered) and 2 bikes right??  Thanks for any advice in advance.
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: EX#996 on April 04, 2006, 08:16:11 PM
I don't know how much it costs, but up 'nort here we spell it               T R A I L E R


 ;D
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: G 97 on April 04, 2006, 08:53:43 PM
Class II hitch should run about  $200 installed if i remember.  Should be enough for a small enclosed and two bikes up to 3500 lbs towing.  Which is probably max for the van anyway.  

I had this for a 99 Pontiac Grand am and a 97 Dodge Intrepid for pulling 6 x 10 open back in the day.  Don't know how I managed because now I pull a 8 x20 with 3500 G van.  

You should not need a brake controller either for this weight as long as the Astro brakes are serviced and good.

Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: 251am on April 05, 2006, 03:10:38 AM
Check with your local U-Haul rental joint- they usually sell and install. When's your first weekend?
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: Super Dave on April 05, 2006, 05:11:43 AM
Do not get a Class II hitch for an Astro.  Only buy a Class III.  A Class II hitch uses the stock bumper brackets, and they will bend under the reasonable weight of a single axle traler.

The Class III model will replace those brackets with the hitch.  Much better design.

Cost will vary by manufacturer, but you should be able to find a reasonably inexpensive one for about $115 to $130.  Very easy to install.  You'll remove the stock bumper brackets then install the hitch.  Should be eight bolts that will go into already threaded points on the chassis and four nuts and bolts that attach the bumper to the hitch.

Wiring is easily done buy using the trailer wiring pig tail that is located in the passenger side rear of the vehicle back where the jack stuff is.
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: G 97 on April 05, 2006, 05:25:55 AM
I've never had any issues with a Class II hitch.  Had them on three cars.  The only way one would bend is if the trailer was loaded improperly and tongue weight increased beyond what the hitch was designed for.  BUt any reasonable load will not have an issue.
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: pnther15 on April 05, 2006, 05:58:38 AM
For the price difference I'd get the Class III.....  A little extra money for a lot better set up.  With the money you'll have riding on the trailer, I'd spend a bit more to protect it...

Dave
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: G-reg on April 05, 2006, 06:12:03 AM
QuoteCost will vary by manufacturer, but you should be able to find a reasonably inexpensive one for about $115 to $130.

Not anymore!

Hitch prices nearly doubled about 2 years ago when there was a supposed "steel shortage"..

A Drawtite/Reese/UHaul (all made by the same company) hitch will run about $150 for a class 2 and $200 for a class 3 including the drawbar.  I'd try to install it yourself though, with either hitch you don't have to drill any holes to install it.  Its listed as a 30 minute install for a professional, so if you don't have a lift and air tools would probably take 1 to 1 1/2 hours or so in your driveway.

As far as which to go with.. on the astro van both have the same weight carrying rating if you're just pulling off the drawbar, 3,500 lbs.  The class 3 can handle up to 6,000 if you use a weight distributing setup.  I'd go with a class 3 though just because it uses the 2"x2" reciever, and if you ever use it for anything else like a cargo carrier its easier to find accessories that use the larger reciever.
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: PolishPete on April 05, 2006, 06:36:13 AM
Thanks for the replies.  Where can I get one installed around the Chicago area??  Home Depot??  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: Super Dave on April 05, 2006, 07:19:23 AM
QuoteI've never had any issues with a Class II hitch.  Had them on three cars.  The only way one would bend is if the trailer was loaded improperly and tongue weight increased beyond what the hitch was designed for.  BUt any reasonable load will not have an issue.


I wouldn't normally either.

But for an Astro van, there are just some specific issues.  I worked for four years at a business where we sold trailers, installed brake controlers, wiring, and hitches.  The issues with Astro Van's and Class II hitches happened.  Easier to do it right with the class III for a couple of extra bucks.

Thorny got an Astro van and the dealer put a class II on it for him...and his single axle enclosed trailer pulled the hitch and bumper down too.  
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: Super Dave on April 05, 2006, 07:23:30 AM
QuoteNot anymore!

Hitch prices nearly doubled about 2 years ago when there was a supposed "steel shortage"..

A Drawtite/Reese/UHaul (all made by the same company) hitch will run about $150 for a class 2 and $200 for a class 3 including the drawbar.  I'd try to install it yourself though, with either hitch you don't have to drill any holes to install it.  Its listed as a 30 minute install for a professional, so if you don't have a lift and air tools would probably take 1 to 1 1/2 hours or so in your driveway.

As far as which to go with.. on the astro van both have the same weight carrying rating if you're just pulling off the drawbar, 3,500 lbs.  The class 3 can handle up to 6,000 if you use a weight distributing setup.  I'd go with a class 3 though just because it uses the 2"x2" reciever, and if you ever use it for anything else like a cargo carrier its easier to find accessories that use the larger reciever.

A quick google brough this up...

http://www.suspensionconnection.com/cgi-bin/suscon/050.html

$113.

Steel shortage?  Yes, there is one.  Yes, prices went up.  Yes, you could get more for scrap.

And slag for asphalt is harder and more expensive to get because there isn't that much steel produced in the US compared to years ago.

Yeah, you'll need a draw bar.  $18 t0 $25 bucks.  Set it up so that the top of the ball is about 17.5 to 19 inches from the ground and you'll be fine.

Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: BlueRidgePerformance on April 05, 2006, 07:38:38 AM
QuoteThanks for the replies.  Where can I get one installed around the Chicago area??  Home Depot??  Thanks again.
Depend where you are in Chicago. There's a place by Midway, on Central, between 55th and Archer. i got a great deal on a hitch and they install.Otherwise I did business with Enharts or something like that in Desplaines. It's on Oakton.
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: PolishPete on April 05, 2006, 04:12:39 PM
Thanks for the replies ago.  I think I'll pick one up tonight and try the install tomorrow!!  Glad to know you have some experience with this Super Dave, so I might be PM'ing you with any problems/questions tomorrow!!  Thanks again for the help!!  I think I'll go with a class III just to be safe!!
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: Super Dave on April 05, 2006, 04:52:50 PM
For the Astro, the Class III is easier to install too.  You'll be fine.
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: Woofentino Pugrossi on April 05, 2006, 05:20:22 PM
If you were more local (ie near BHF) to me I'd put it on if you brought the hitch with ya. INstalled them for 8 yrs. Hated doing 94-98 F350 duallies. Had to drill 6 holes, move teh spare release from the rear to the front of the spare, attempt to hold teh hitch with one hand whilst putting the bolts and spacers in. All while the other guys watch because they dont want to get dirty. ;D
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: PolishPete on April 05, 2006, 08:42:42 PM
I bought a Reese Class III hitch, it says it fits Astro (Extended Only)* with the * meaning do not exceed 3500 lbs...should this work for just a regular Astro?  Thanks for the offer, I'm in Downers Grove, so about an hour away, if I have too much trouble with it (I don't think I should), I might take you up on that offer!! :)
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: G-reg on April 06, 2006, 06:12:28 AM
All Astro vans 95 and newer (when they switched body styles) are the extended ones..  From 90-94 the extended body was an option, but it became the normal one in 95..
Title: Re: Trailor Hitch...how much to buy/install?
Post by: PolishPete on April 06, 2006, 12:01:49 PM
Thanks!!