Whats up with the schedule for CMP? http://www.ccsracing.us/venues/2006/cmp.html
LP Track Day on Saturday morning (BTW: $75 for CCS licensed riders if you want to run it ) - and a riders clinic? GT class practice starting @ 2:30 for 45 min (for 3 groups) GT races start at 3:15...and to top it off - all 16 sprint races on Sunday - starting after lunch! :o
Sounds like an underhanded way of jacking up the price... pretty sad. I can't remember not having a Saturday and Sunday for your race entries.
Looks like I need to go find a headlight.
Here's another Q?
If I've already pre entered via snail mail, how do I register for the track day? I'm wondering if doing it via the online system will fudge up my entire entry?
Looks like the gingerman schedules from last year.. except we had a 2 hour "quiet time" on sunday too..
CMP, like Roebling, has a history of low turnout (read in that it lost big money) and we waited to see if this season would change. It hasn't. (We have twice the pre-entires for Summit in May -and VIR in June- as CMP in April at this time.)
Thus we needed to give ourselves the opporunity to at least break even, so we needed to make the change to the Gingerman type of schedule. We now have a hope between street riders and racers who would enter extra practice that we can keep from losing the $10,000 like the last time we ran at CMP.
We're just trying to stay in business, not screw anybody. (As far as the 16 races, at three races per hour, our average, we still finish by 5:00pm.)
And adding practice will not mess with your class entries at all.
Thanks Y'all.
Thanks for the info Kevin...just curious...when was the last time CCS was at CMP?
Makes sense now, thanks Kevin. I just hope there's enough entries to make contingency minimums.
I wonder why the low turnout?
I've never been there, but all the online video makes it look like an amazing layout... is there some outlying reason people stay away (for example: you know not to go bow hunting in the GA mountains with 3 of your buddies, one of whom is fat).
Kevin is this becoming florida region?
Does anyone know if there are showers available at the track?
Damn, I didn't know there was a 75 dollar practice fee for Sat. I thought we'd get the usual 2 or 3 practice sessions in the morning on both days. :( Does anyone know if there's a trackday Fr?
Sat morning is the track "day"...
and I sent the track an E:mail last night..waiting to hear back...will post whatever info I get.
They have showers, the track is about 20 miles from gas stations, motels etc. I like the track, have done several track day's there. I just which it was scheduled for another weekend.
Well.. there is practice for the GT races at 2:30. And there's morning practice on Sun.
CMP is not booked by anyone for the Friday. Did some investigation and we would need like 40 racers to make it reasonable to rent the track for the day. That would include cornerworkers and medical for the day.
I'm in for Friday... maybe someone would like to organize it? I suck at those things or I would.
id sign up if there was a friday track day.
Reply from CMP:
From: <info@carolinamotorsportspark.com>
To: "Paul Castiglia"
Subject: Re: Facilites
Date: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:58:52 AM
Good Morning!
1. yes we have shower/restroom facilities
2. yes food concessions/ice is available
3. gates will open at 5pm Friday evening (gates will close at 10pm nightly)
4. camping is allowed - electricity is available. CMP does not charge individuals camping fees, we charge the clubs a flat rate, therefore if there is a camping fee, you will need to contact CCS.
Hope you have a safe trip, see you soon!
Kevin/CCS can you comment on the camping fees?
I'll practice on Friday too, if you guys can get it together
We are looking into it now just have to see what it would cost. Probabaly looking in the range of 150 to 200 per rider. We are going to need to get 30 or 40 riders to get the price down that far though.
Count me and teammate in for a Friday if you guys can do it.
QuoteCMP, like Roebling, has a history of low turnout (read in that it lost big money) and we waited to see if this season would change. It hasn't. (We have twice the pre-entires for Summit in May -and VIR in June- as CMP in April at this time.)
Thus we needed to give ourselves the opporunity to at least break even, so we needed to make the change to the Gingerman type of schedule. We now have a hope between street riders and racers who would enter extra practice that we can keep from losing the $10,000 like the last time we ran at CMP.
We're just trying to stay in business, not screw anybody. (As far as the 16 races, at three races per hour, our average, we still finish by 5:00pm.)
And adding practice will not mess with your class entries at all.
Thanks Y'all.
Do we have to preregister to do the track day?
Let me know what the price is and how/who to pay for friday practice.
Tried to call CCS today, I'm sure they are away for a race weekend somewhere. I may have a sponsor for the track day. However, before we set anything up we want to talk to kevin and crew, we don't want to rock the boat, if turn out is so low that they need a couple more bucks from running the track day on Saturday, I don't want to rock the boat and be banished to the back of the grid for the rest of the season..... ;D
If Kevin et al, don't have an issue with it we would need to get at least 30 people together that would mean 200 bucks a head (6K to rent the track with insurance, corner workers, ambulance, etc), however with only 30 people we would have to limit the sessions to one round of practice...
Of course that one session would be 8 hours long sort of a test and tune day with an open track. If we get 40+ people we can refund the difference and create 2 groups. May need a few volunteers to help with tech and registration, pit marshal etc. But most importantly, get your buddies together and get ready to paypal quick if we get the interest we may be able to get the track, one thing working against us is time because CMP is trying to rent out the day.
Again, CCS is the boss and with the new management we all want to support them and not compete in any way with potential funds from all the racers. Just a few of us are traveling 16 hours for the event and need to take 2 days vacation from work for the travel time and have never been to the track since it was not on the venue last year and after my display at Daytona could really use the extra practice to learn the track.
Z-man
We have no problem with the track day set up on Friday, the only sticking point becomes clearing the paddock and then re-entry after everone comes out and signs our releases.
We will work with CMP on th camping fee...if it is what we expect, there will be no extra charge...we want to keep this simple as possible.
It's sounding Very Cool!! Everybodys working together...
That's kind of weird? ;D
Thank you Z-Man and CCS for spending the time to work all of this out. 8)
I'm going to talk to Kevin and see if we can make it work.
Z
Bad news.....
Kevin and I exchanged a bunch of emails today and Kevin was all for us running the track day and was extremely supportive and was even going to help us fill the event by contacting racers who pre-registered. I called CMP back to see what I needed to do to leave a deposit and get the appropriate paperwork and they told me a car club grabbed the day. I didn't want to do anything before I had Kevin's blessing by waiting we lost the day.
Sorry
Dave Z
I'm in for the friday track day. Who do I send the money to?
So racing is Sunday only? I'm I reading this right?
Do they have gas pumps there?
QuoteSo racing is Sunday only? I'm I reading this right?
GT races on Saturday afternoon...sprints on Sunday
QuoteDo they have gas pumps there?
Damn....the one question I didn't ask!
i am thinking about coming to this race as my first ccs weekend. I have a wera license, but i need some helping along here :)
I will probably show up friday night and camp, can i register for my license saturday morning along with my races? Also a gt race is longer? Do i need my transponder or does ccs provide one? Anything else that would make my life easier before i get there i would greatly appreciate. Thanks everyone
Ben
Yes, you can get your license at the track. Make sure you bring your WERA license along.
GT races are usually 30 minutes long.
CCS provides a transponder.
Quotei am thinking about coming to this race as my first ccs weekend. I have a wera license, but i need some helping along here :)
I will probably show up friday night and camp, can i register for my license saturday morning along with my races? Also a gt race is longer? Do i need my transponder or does ccs provide one? Anything else that would make my life easier before i get there i would greatly appreciate. Thanks everyone
Ben
QuoteDo they have gas pumps there?
I believe they do have gas there on the back side of the pits.