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Title: Daytona
Post by: StumpysWife on March 08, 2006, 04:48:45 AM
Happy Daytona 2006 day!

Don't forget, for those of us who can't be there, live timing and scoring is up on www.amasuperbike.com

Heather
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: OmniGLH on March 08, 2006, 08:30:15 AM
W00T!

Got LiveWire going here at the office.  Hopefully the IT Nazi's won't shut it down on me.

Brian Hall 29th fastest in FX so far w/a 1:47.659 - GO BRIAN!!
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: StumpysWife on March 10, 2006, 04:25:48 AM
Any word on what happened to Brian Hall?  He was going pretty good on Wednesday.  

Heather
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Super Dave on March 10, 2006, 05:14:58 AM
i think I saw him in the back ground of a picture of Michael Barnes on RRW.  Barney wadded pretty good.

Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Super Dave on March 10, 2006, 05:30:07 AM
He qualified, but I don't see him doing any laps in the supersport race.

Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: StumpysWife on March 10, 2006, 05:39:13 AM
He didn't practice yesturday either.  That's why I was concerned.  Hope he didn't get hurt.  

Heather
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Scotty Ryan on March 10, 2006, 05:40:44 AM
Talked to Purk and Ortega on the phone last night and sounds like Hall blew up a motor or two in practice.... But our boys Dano, and our one and only racing dentist "Dr Jeffery Purk" both qualified for the Supersport and FX/200 races....Way to go guys...Oh and Ortega was practicing on his new 06' R6 and put a whole in the radiator - and blowing his head gasket...Now his just running the 05'....Purk says he's glad they have today off so that they can rest.....
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: StumpysWife on March 10, 2006, 05:44:02 AM
Brian and his poor motors!!!  Good grief!

I'm glad to hear its the bike and not him, though.

Heather
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: OmniGLH on March 10, 2006, 06:02:20 AM
I had a sinking feeling he blew up a motor or two  :(  Poor guy.  I really hate to see someone with as much potential as he has run into such a string of "bad luck"  :(

Methinks its time for a new engine builder...
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Jeff on March 10, 2006, 06:15:01 AM
Looking at the results of qualifying, I see DanO running a GSXR-6 and if I'm not mistaken, he ran his fastest laps on that bike...  interesting...

And yes, I too fear the season that Hall has 95% of everything go RIGHT (no busted shoulders/collar bones/blown motors).
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: LMsports on March 10, 2006, 06:25:14 AM
Brian will have himself back up and going for the season. Hopefully he will get himself in a more reliable position he truly has some talent and goes well when things aren't stacked so highly against him. He is resourceful, I'm sure he will rebound well.
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: OmniGLH on March 10, 2006, 06:40:31 AM
I can only imagine Old-Timer's (aka Mister Hall) mood down there right now!  I feel sorry for the poor sap that's going to be on his sh*t list after this weekend!
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: 251am on March 10, 2006, 07:08:42 AM
QuoteI had a sinking feeling he blew up a motor or two  :(  Poor guy.  I really hate to see someone with as much potential as he has run into such a string of "bad luck"  :(

Methinks its time for a new engine builder...



Has nothing to do with the engine builder I would guess.  :-X
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Scotty Ryan on March 10, 2006, 07:14:49 AM
I asked Dan about the Suzuki thing, and he said that the AMA was supposed to have that changed by Wednesday - doesn't surprise me though. The AMA is usually a little slow with that kind of stuff.....He is running his 05'R6, he was saying something about it being down on power tho...... I have been watching the results and lap times and am upset that I didn't go down and race...I think I will next season....
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Scotty Ryan on March 10, 2006, 07:17:27 AM
QuoteHas nothing to do with the engine builder I would guess.  :-X



Only second hand info - but - I was told that his pistons were slapping the heads...Irreguardless of who built the motor - it sounds to me like the thing was put together just a little to tight....
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Super Dave on March 10, 2006, 07:20:00 AM
Sometimes there are issues with what you put in the tank.  

I don't think anyone has answers though.  

How about them Buells?  They keep puttin' down oil...not.
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: OmniGLH on March 10, 2006, 07:25:39 AM
QuoteSometimes there are issues with what you put in the tank.  

I don't think anyone has answers though.  

How about them Buells?  They keep puttin' down oil...not.

I'm certainly impressed that they managed to get a Buell into the top-10 qualifying spots, that's for sure!  Though I'm SURE it helps to have a MotoGP rider piloting the thing... ;)

I'm not a Harley (or Buell) fan in the least.  In fact, I rather dislike Buells.  But it is nice to see the americans have finally built something that can compete with the japanese (even if it IS 2x the displacement.)  I hope it holds together and finishes.
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Scotty Ryan on March 10, 2006, 07:33:20 AM
QuoteSometimes there are issues with what you put in the tank.  

I don't think anyone has answers though.  

How about them Buells?  They keep puttin' down oil...not.

We were discussing this topic last night while working on the bike...From what pat says - in the old days, guys would come off the banking, downshift, and over-rev the pi$$ out of the motors.Sometimes you would put a valve through a piston or something to that nature.....Trying to touch on what you said about what goes in the tank - Pat said that the guys running bigger tanks back in the days - when race bikes didn't start out as street bikes ( Formula 1 I think)  while carrying extra weight, would put more load on the motor then they were used to.And while trying to slowing down for turn one and cause havoc on internal engine parts because of the overrev factor.... Correcet me if I am wrong Dave....
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on March 10, 2006, 08:47:05 AM
Did Ben Spies REALLY just utter the words THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR 600?  Oh phuck me!  That's precicely the same budget I'm working with for my 30 year plan.... :o
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: jer271 on March 10, 2006, 12:42:52 PM
Iam so glad I bought a 4&6 motor somebody come home with some good news soon :-/
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: jer271 on March 10, 2006, 12:52:29 PM
Hey Ptak,
 I was noticing that Dano had, The Law Offices of Donahue, as a sponser ::)

Kinda funny or did he get some $$$ outa of him, if he did, at least some of us are getting a rebate ;D
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: OmniGLH on March 10, 2006, 01:21:02 PM
QuoteIam so glad I bought a 4&6 motor somebody come home with some good news soon :-/

oh SNAP!
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: OmniGLH on March 10, 2006, 01:21:55 PM
QuoteHey Ptak,
 I was noticing that Dano had, The Law Offices of Donahue, as a sponser ::)

Kinda funny or did he get some $$$ outa of him, if he did, at least some of us are getting a rebate ;D

LOL I'd assume so.  I think the amount of money some of us have sent him over the years would be enough to fund a MotoGP season!
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Super Dave on March 10, 2006, 03:24:06 PM
QuoteI'm certainly impressed that they managed to get a Buell into the top-10 qualifying spots, that's for sure!  Though I'm SURE it helps to have a MotoGP rider piloting the thing... ;)

Honda has one on their pole winning bike.  What's the difference?  Suzuki has one on their pole bike for Superbike.  
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Super Dave on March 10, 2006, 03:31:00 PM
QuoteWe were discussing this topic last night while working on the bike...From what pat says - in the old days, guys would come off the banking, downshift, and over-rev the pi$$ out of the motors.Sometimes you would put a valve through a piston or something to that nature.....Trying to touch on what you said about what goes in the tank - Pat said that the guys running bigger tanks back in the days - when race bikes didn't start out as street bikes ( Formula 1 I think)  while carrying extra weight, would put more load on the motor then they were used to.And while trying to slowing down for turn one and cause havoc on internal engine parts because of the overrev factor.... Correcet me if I am wrong Dave....


Well, the Formula one bikes...they didn't have valves.  They were two strokes, unless you were on Hondas...they had some wild prototype endurance type four stroke things.

Overrev?  Well, I'm not sure what Pat was talking about, but I know that Dale Quarterley talked about how they used to always build big motors,  big HP, for Daytona, but they'd pop them...so, well, the started to build them to accelerate and last.  

When Fred Merkel returned to the US to race, that was what he wanted the most from a motor...accelerate.  Yeah, more HP means more acceleration, in ways, but you're trying to get the thing to come out of the corner with feel.  And come out hard.  

Riders have still tossed motors because of too much over rev in the recent era.  Slipper clutches help.
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Suzy on March 10, 2006, 03:43:24 PM
Isn't there races tomorrow morning or is that another rerun?
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Super Dave on March 10, 2006, 03:52:11 PM
Today was Supercross.  Tomorrow is the big event.  Unless it rains.
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Super_KC124 on March 11, 2006, 09:54:54 AM
Was that Dean Hagemann(sp.) I just seen on pit row at Daytona?
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Scotty Ryan on March 11, 2006, 06:16:42 PM
I thought I saw Dean as well...I know he was doing some stuff for a Buell team last season - so it would make sense to me....
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: Super_KC124 on March 11, 2006, 06:29:36 PM
I'm sure it was. It was the big ear rings. ;D
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: racerhall on March 17, 2006, 05:01:49 AM
thanks for the concerns everyone, im ok
i had nothing but problems on my trip to daytona, all with the bikes and they forced me to come home early and watch the races on tv  :-[
but i will be ready for road america
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: G 97 on March 17, 2006, 08:46:18 AM
Quotethanks for the concerns everyone, im ok
i had nothing but problems on my trip to daytona, all with the bikes and they forced me to come home early and watch the races on tv  :-[
but i will be ready for road america

Your getting Honda's? ;D
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: stumpy on March 17, 2006, 02:22:47 PM
 Brian just e-mailed me to see if I had any more Honda spares!  That's great news your getting a Honda Brian. You'll finish alot more races!



Stumpy ;)
Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: PJ on March 18, 2006, 05:52:20 AM
Hey Garth,

How did your first Daytona experience work out? When I last saw you, you were still waiting for your bike to show up...   :-/

Title: Re: Daytona
Post by: G 97 on March 19, 2006, 05:24:53 AM
Once i got my bike things went better.  ONly got about 10 laps in the TC Solo.  In the end I could never seam to get any left side grip or drive in the infield and missed qualifying by 1.2 seconds or something. I needed another session to make some changes.  It was my first time there, and still fun so hopefully things will go better next year.

On a side note got invited to Marc Palmerez HD party at the Hilton.  It was on the 9th floor suite and had a balacany that was 60 feet by about 40 feet tha over looked all of downtown plus the beach.  Good PArty.