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Title: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 07:51:49 AM
For the Midwest region peeps...

Heartland Park Topeka is a combined MW/GP/ASRA event in June.  The familiar MW crew will be running it.

The August event might also be a MW event at Heartland Park Topeka.  I don't think it's listed that way currently on the CCS website, but keep your ears open if you're going to run the whole MW schedule.  MW crew would be there again also.

Heartland Park is one of my favorite tracks next to VIR and the track formerly known as Sears Point.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Jeff on March 03, 2006, 07:55:09 AM
Thanks Dave...

Assuming you have inside scoop, when can we expect this to be set in stone and added to the schedule on the CCS site?
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: grasshopper on March 03, 2006, 07:55:49 AM
Is that about an 8 hour drive from Chicago?
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 08:30:00 AM
Jeff, I don't know.  It's already on the CCS site as a race for the GP region.  I don't have a huge inside scoop, but in some conversations, it did come up.  

From Chicago?  I'm betting it's at least nine to ten, depending upon how fast you drive.  Omaha is eight.

Great track.  Repaved now also.  I think we'll be running the full course which I haven't been on since 1997 or 1996.  Huge investment.  
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: extrakt0r on March 03, 2006, 08:58:47 AM
Freakin' Sweet...  ;D

It's nice having a Race at a Track only 45Mins from Home  ;D

PS...I E-Mail Kevin earlier in the week asking him about this, but since he is probably in Daytona, I figure it could be a week or so before I hear back from him.... ;)
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Jeff on March 03, 2006, 09:28:43 AM
Travel is of no consequence when you're rolling in style...   :P
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 10:30:42 AM
QuoteFreakin' Sweet...  ;D

It's nice having a Race at a Track only 45Mins from Home  ;D

I thought you were in Daytona?
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: extrakt0r on March 03, 2006, 11:53:09 AM
QuoteTravel is of no consequence when you're rolling in style...   :P

Hey, you have a pimpin' Motorhome Also  ;)
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: extrakt0r on March 03, 2006, 11:53:39 AM
QuoteI thought you were in Daytona?

Not when the R6 isn't ready...  :(
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: G-reg on March 03, 2006, 12:19:46 PM
QuoteTravel is of no consequence when you're rolling in style...   :P


I don't care if you're rollin in style or not.. 14 hours each way still sucks!  :-X
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: TommyG on March 03, 2006, 12:35:39 PM
QuoteGreat track.  Repaved now also.  I think we'll be running the full course which I haven't been on since 1997 or 1996.  Huge investment.  
Dave, Is that the same track we used to run when ccs first had mw races there in 94?
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Xian_13 on March 03, 2006, 03:10:08 PM
Honestly...
I sure hope we don't go.

I just can't get that much time off of work.
For the June event, I am already taking 3 days off.

I do enjoy the track, and I hope to make the full 06 schedule...
But adding another topeka is the easiest way for me to miss that event.. and then more events... Cuz I won't be able ALL events, why force the issue on making most of them.

XIII
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 03:18:57 PM
QuoteDave, Is that the same track we used to run when ccs first had mw races there in 94?


Yeah, should be similar.  The front straight is on the pit road like last year, and that chicane thing on the front straight (turn "zero") has been changed too.  I should be heading down next week to check some things out, and do some business.  

The new asphalt is unique.  Had some talks with one of the people at Blackhawk almost a month back.  Very unique mix.  Blackhawk has help up well, so I know that Ray wanted durability and traction from this mix too.  Topeka is a rather oppressive environment, so the same mix from Blackhawk should not work.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 03:20:21 PM
QuoteTravel is of no consequence when you're rolling in style...   :P


I'm sorry...

I thought style was a personal attibute...not one of objetcts...

I'm always in style...even when I slept in my old red van at Daytona.
"The Econoline Inn"   8)
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 03:21:56 PM
QuoteHonestly...
I sure hope we don't go.

Didn't you get a new job?

There is a huge commitment from Heartland Park Topeka.  
Without commitments like that, there is no growth.  I will be supporting the event.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Xian_13 on March 03, 2006, 03:32:54 PM
QuoteDidn't you get a new job?

There is a huge commitment from Heartland Park Topeka.  
Without commitments like that, there is no growth.  I will be supporting the event.

I was supposed to get a new job...
After everything was said and done, I am still at my old job.

Like Greg said... its 14 hours away!

I understand the commitment there. I also expected this, when I saw the GP only event there.
I don't know what kind of draw GP will have this year, but HPT would be a major loss for CCS if it was GP only racers there.

When it comes right down to it, I am sure I will try and make this event. However, it doesn't look promising. (If time off of work was no object, I would be there)

XIII
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 03:45:31 PM
QuoteI was supposed to get a new job...
After everything was said and done, I am still at my old job.

Like Greg said... its 14 hours away!

I understand the commitment there. I also expected this, when I saw the GP only event there.
I don't know what kind of draw GP will have this year, but HPT would be a major loss for CCS if it was GP only racers there.

When it comes right down to it, I am sure I will try and make this event. However, it doesn't look promising. (If time off of work was no object, I would be there)

XIII

You're near Madison.  That isn't 14 hours.  Alone it's a whole lot less than that for me with my bus and trailer.

CCS can not lose at Heartland Park Topeka this year.  Again, I have stated that there is a huge investment being given to the new CCS from Heartland Park Topeka, let alone to the motorcycle community as a whole.  

I'll pray for some good luck to come your way.  Sucks about the job thing.  
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Xian_13 on March 03, 2006, 04:14:51 PM
I'm a stones throw from RA.

Funny thing is...
Its either time, or its money.

This year I got money  :-/

XIII
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: extrakt0r on March 03, 2006, 04:37:13 PM
My average commute to the races last year was about 10 hours one way...

 ::)

I know quite a few other KC Racers were in the same boat as I was last year and they all made the trek...
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Racingxtc7 on March 03, 2006, 06:04:30 PM
I sure hope CCS MW isn't at Heartland twice!!! Can't afford that road trip.

April 10: Heartland Park Topeka Motorcycle Track Day/Visionsports Riding School
May 8: Heartland Park Topeka Motorcycle Track Day/Visionsports Riding School
May 13: Sportbike Track Time Motorcycle School
June 14: Heartland Park Topeka Motorcycle Track Day/Visionsports Riding School
June 15: Heartland Park Topeka Motorcycle Test Day
*June 16-18: American Sportbike Racing Association National (ASRA), Championship Cup Series (CCS) Great Plains/Midwest Regional
June 24-25: Sportbike Track Time Motorcycle School
July 10-11: STAR Motorcycle School
July 17: Heartland Park Topeka Motorcycle Track Day/Visionsports Riding School
August 4: Heartland Park Topeka Motorcycle Test Day
*August 5-6: Championship Cup Series (CCS)
August 7: Sportbike Track Time Motorcycle School
September 11: Heartland Park Topeka Motorcycle Track Day/Visionsports Riding School
October 23: Heartland Park Topeka Motorcycle Track Day/Visionsports Riding School
November 4-5: Northeast Sportbike Racing Association
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: TommyG on March 03, 2006, 07:13:47 PM
I`m all for the ROC at HPT!!!!!!! How`s Oct weather in Topeka Mike?? ::)
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 03, 2006, 07:15:24 PM
Eh, well, your mileage may vary.

But we're having a school program in late October there.  I think NESBA is there in Novermber even.

Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: HPT on March 04, 2006, 04:47:09 AM
QuoteI`m all for the ROC at HPT!!!!!!! How`s Oct weather in Topeka Mike?? ::)

um, farmers almanac suggests avg. 66 degrees for the end of Oct. last couple of years, been in the 70's...

perhaps climate, regional location was part of the reason HPT was selected to host the 2006 SCCA Runoffs 2nd week in Oct.

HPT's last motorbike track day is Oct. 23 so we shall see ;)

Like Dave said, NESBA even pulls in, early Nov.

Of course, completely new facilities, new road course [NOT repavement]  and the OLD 2.5 GP track configuration (re)opened might have been a big driver for the car guys. Although only two of three configurations are represented here

http://hpt.com//store/catalog/road_configs.php

(take a right, turn 1, after turn 0....)

its gonna be fun & fast ..there is no doubt.... Dave, didnt you run that course configuration in the early 90's ?

Turn 3 is something like 300 ft radius, 8 degrees slightly banked after a 950 ft straight from turn 2.....
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 04, 2006, 02:45:56 PM
Quoteits gonna be fun & fast ..there is no doubt.... Dave, didnt you run that course configuration in the early 90's ?

We ran three AMA races, '89,'90,91 and a Formula USA event in 1990 there with that course.  CCS ran there once in 1992, five times in 1993 and then continuing to 1999.  In 1997, I think we started using a couple of smaller courses because the run up to three was obliterated and the drainage had gone down hill.  That would have been the layout that was ran recently.  The full course is really cool.  I will miss the body english that you used to use in the old one/two area, but I think with the new stuff...I'll get over it.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super_KC124 on March 04, 2006, 06:34:28 PM
I'm all for any event that makes the MW racers have to travel more than 30 minutes. ;D

I can get to Road America in 9 1/2 hours and I'm 1 1/2 hours east of HPT.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 05, 2006, 04:07:19 AM
Well, that includes every track I go to.  I think for most racers also.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Xian_13 on March 05, 2006, 04:13:32 AM
QuoteI'm all for any event that makes the MW racers have to travel more than 30 minutes. ;D

I can get to Road America in 9 1/2 hours and I'm 1 1/2 hours east of HPT.

Whats your Average, Deer per Mile?



XIII
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 05, 2006, 04:34:45 AM
LOL!
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super_KC124 on March 05, 2006, 08:02:55 AM
QuoteWhats your Average, Deer per Mile?





XIII

Higher than anybody should have to deal with. :'(

Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: LMsports on March 05, 2006, 09:55:40 AM
We're excited about the HPT days and we will definitely be there. I've been to the new facility three times now in the off season and will be back again this week. It is a whole new place. Awesome new paddock, incredible upgrades to the track itself (been on track twice in a car now), and the new garages and tech building are sweet! This will be one of the nicest tracks CCS goes to in the country. Since it is centrally located  I think it would be a natural choice for the future of ROC competition. What an advantage to Midwest riders to have the opportunity to get on track during the regular season if that were to occur. Look at the positives, we're definitely lucky to have this track!
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Jeff on March 06, 2006, 04:44:53 AM
QuoteI don't care if you're rollin in style or not.. 14 hours each way still sucks!  :-X

Ride along Greg, we'll take turns driving & making sammiches...
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Protein Filled on March 06, 2006, 05:08:48 AM
No matter how far away Topeka is, Baby Dolls makes it all worth it! Where else can you get such a great meal so close to the track?


 ;) ;D
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: TommyG on March 06, 2006, 05:19:44 AM
Lappers are cheaper in KS!!!! ;D
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 06, 2006, 05:24:26 AM
MMMMmmm, Steak with Baby Dolls...
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: StumpysWife on March 06, 2006, 07:11:00 AM
HPT was a favorite of ours before the changes.  I think it would be a great place for ROC.  

Heather
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Jeff on March 10, 2006, 05:47:06 AM
Dave or anyone...

I'm not seeing an August Heartland Park event on *ANY* schedule right now...  Not the overall CCS schedule, not MW, not GP, not on trackaddix website.

Please let me know where you're seeing this.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 10, 2006, 07:16:56 AM
CCS & HPT have a contract.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Jack_Brock on March 10, 2006, 11:30:18 AM
Dave, I hope you know what you are talking about, but it appears the schedules have been changed on the websites for CCS, Track Addix, and Hastings for the August 5th and 6th weekend.  CCS and Track Addix now show that weekend is at Hastings.  I hope this is an error, I really do.  The Heartland Park website still shows it, but that is the only place.
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: extrakt0r on March 10, 2006, 02:40:14 PM
The CCS Site and the TA Site show two 100% different versions of the season...

I guess we will all know if Kevin posts up (hint hint  ;D ) and sets the record straight...

I hope there are two race weekends at HPT...

Have they even started paving Hastings yet? Or broke Ground for that matter???

Does anyone else think it is a little optimistic to plan a bunch events that are less than 4 Months away when there is no physical track yet???  :-X
Title: Re: AUG Heartland Park a MW event...
Post by: Super Dave on March 10, 2006, 03:22:04 PM
I called and left a message at CCS some time ago for clarification.

I love HPT.  I'll race there if there is a race there in August.  I have better things to do that to try an worry about what CCS is doing.  I can spend some dough there or someplace else.

I know others have calls in to CCS.