After the speech our President made tonight, I would like to ask a question....
If Bush was allowed to take 4 more years would you vote for him again (if you voted for him)?
-OR-
With the war and other issues around us today were applied before he took office, would your vote be the same?
Technically the war was still on when he was first elected. There was only a cease fire declared for the gulf war. Clinton could had sent troops in without Congress's approval (which he could since we still were at war with Iraq) much like Pres Bush did.
Would I vote for him for a 3rd term (if they allowed it)? Dunno. Normally I fall on the conservative side of things. But if a libertarian or green party candidate gets my attention I might go that way. A democrat, never will.
not in a million years. But then again, I never voted for him.
In our republic, there will be others to vote for. So, even if Bush could run again, I'd want to know who the other options would be.
I don't think Kerry was a good option, period.
I might be conservative, but the Republican party does not represent me.
It would depend who else ran... But I haven't voted for him in the past, so I don't imagine that would change...
Term limits for publicly-run organizations are a good thing, regardless of your opinion of the person. I work for a 5 person appointed Board. Everytime someone term-limits out, we feel bad because we have great people on our Board, but I'm always happy with the what the new person has to bring to the table.
Without term limits, I don't think the people can be truely represented.
Heather
QuoteWithout term limits, I don't think the people can be truely represented.
Totally agree... People fear change, so they would rather put up with the 'problems' they know than to introduce something/someone new who might fix them (or make them worse).
Washington runs the country. Oil money runs Washington. That much will never change. Bush is at least OBVIOUSLY connected to big oil. No misunderstanding his motivations, at any rate.
Bill Clinton was a treasonous traitor who should have been dispatched by a firing squad. Instead they busted him for having a mistress. Why? Because way too many other powerful people were involved in the campaign funding scandal, and it was all driven by big oil.
You do understand that big oil controls the White House AND the media, right?
QuoteIn our republic, there will be others to vote for. So, even if Bush could run again, I'd want to know who the other options would be.
I don't think Kerry was a good option, period.
I might be conservative, but the Republican party does not represent me.
+ 1 ! Politicians these days have morphed into one big "glob" of abiguity. I'm fiscally conservative, socially liberal. I left the Republican party almost ten years ago for the Libertarian party. I think most Libertarians honestly care about the nation rather than their own political gain. The problem Libertarians have is that their platform is no nonsense. By that I mean PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. That is something that's fast disappearing these days. The Republicans scare we Libertarians into voting for them every year... and the Democratic party helps them out with poster children like Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. That said, I'm done with it. I will only vote Libertarian or not at all from now on. The Libertarian party has a plan to take over New Hampshire in an effort to win one state (kind of like advertising), I'm curious to see if it happens.
I also vote Libertarian (personal responsibility and actually following the Constitution). The problem is that most people see voting as a choice between 2 parties (which are closer to 2 sides of the same coin). They rarely look at other parties. I vote my principles, not for the candidate that is going to win or for a candidate trying to keep another out of office. Some say my vote is wasted because my candidate won't win. Voting has nothing to do with winning and losing, it has everything to do with voting for what you believe in.
No, I don't make the same mistake twice!!
QuoteVoting has nothing to do with winning and losing, it has everything to do with voting for what you believe in.
Exactly.
Edit fro additional comment: Not voting is a wasted vote!:
Generally speaking, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CCS/RACING ???
Making statements regarding the White House and Oil $$ is funny coming from a forum who's sport is such a large consumer of oil/petroleum products. ;)
I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat. He's got the backbone to get us through the ever dangerous middle east chaos.
QuoteI'd vote for him again in a heartbeat. He's got the backbone to get us through the ever dangerous middle east chaos.
no no no, remember ... the democrats have "a plan" ;D
I lean pretty heavily to the right on most issues...some not so much. For all the reasons I wouldnt vote for dub again, there are several more reasons I would.
QuoteGenerally speaking, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CCS/RACING ???
Making statements regarding the White House and Oil $$ is funny coming from a forum who's sport is such a large consumer of oil/petroleum products. ;)
Has nothing to do with it, and maybe we should have a 'Dungeon' here too to chat in. There are others who have talked about more than racing here besides me. ;D
QuoteGenerally speaking, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CCS/RACING ???
Making statements regarding the White House and Oil $$ is funny coming from a forum who's sport is such a large consumer of oil/petroleum products. ;)
If you don`t like it ....don`t read it. Welcome to America beeeaaaatch! ;D
Let me just say I'm glad he cannot run again!
Open the Dungeon ;)
Bullwinkle says...
"Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!!" :o
(just felt like saying something useless and non-informative, ha ha) ;D
QuoteBullwinkle says...
"Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!!" :o
(just felt like saying something useless and non-informative, ha ha) ;D
Not to mention it has absolutely
NOTHING to do with motorcycle racing! ;)
QuoteNot to mention it has absolutely NOTHING to do with motorcycle racing! ;)
Nether the the fact that I'm not wearing any pants right now. ;D
QuoteNether the the fact that I'm not wearing any pants right now. ;D
I just threw up a perfectly good lunch! Thanks a lot!
I put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except, once my pants are on, I make gold records.
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More useless information for ya!! Hey, I've hacked my own thread!!! This is how serious I take our politicians too. ;D
Hey! Let's talk about religion....... :o
That's MY cow, yours are DEAD ;D!!
QuoteWashington runs the country. Oil money runs Washington. That much will never change. Bush is at least OBVIOUSLY connected to big oil. No misunderstanding his motivations, at any rate.
Bill Clinton was a treasonous traitor who should have been dispatched by a firing squad. Instead they busted him for having a mistress. Why? Because way too many other powerful people were involved in the campaign funding scandal, and it was all driven by big oil.
You do understand that big oil controls the White House AND the media, right?
I'm a little late - but: Chris - are you out of your mind? You'll have to explain your logic on this some time at the track. Stability in the middle-east (objective of gulf war) will reduce oil prices. High oil prices benefit big oil (10% profit on $3.00/gal> 10% profit on $2.00/gal). I have no idea how big oil controls the media. The media may be THE number one adversary of big oil. Enlighten me.
Jeff - if you didn't vote for W the last two times, I hope you wrote someone in.
For me, it would depend on the alternative. I'm not real happy with W's need to appease the democrats and the media. His most lasting contribution is the additions to the Supreme Court.
QuoteI put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except, once my pants are on, I make gold records.
Uh, what?? :)
This should give you an idea about the State of OUR Union, these jobs should be in the US, but you didn't hear Bush mention anything about getting our big Corporate giants to bring their businesses back here to encourage employment in our country.
Will not buy a Dell (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060130/ap_on_hi_te/india_dell)
QuoteI put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except, once my pants are on, I make gold records.
You know what we need here... MORE COWBELL!
I have a plan for the upcoming election. If I don't like who's running (in PA most pols cross file, so you don't have a choice) I'll write in my own name. Our representatives (oxymoron) voted themselves up to a 34 percent raise last year. If an incumbent doesn't have anyone running against them, I'll write my own name in and let them have fun with that. If enough people do it, think of the MESSAGE that would send.
I read a book years ago called "a citizen legislature". Just like the draft of old, everyone gets a number. Every year they pull 535 numbers. When you get called it's your turn to go to Washington. You get paid the $150,000 for the year and do what you can for your country. Sounds too much like common sense to me. I don't think I could screw up the country any more than Kennedy, Biden, Kerry et all. But thats just my opinion.
Good!! I like your opinion. ;D
Now I have my job to go to now, thank goodness my job will not go overseas. ;)