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I was charged back in December for my license renewal, but today I see a reversal crediting it back.

What gives?

charged on 12/27 and no credit back as of 1/8.

My card was charged also in Dec. and so far so good.

Call CCS and ask them.

QuoteCall CCS and ask them.

I did and nobody had any answers other than, 'We don't have any details on why but a letter will be sent out explaining'

well, watch your mailbox then...

Quotewell, watch your mailbox then...

I will, but if nobody at CCS/ASRA knows anything--who wrote the letter?

QuoteI will, but if nobody at CCS/ASRA knows anything--who wrote the letter?

 :o wow...and they had to do the credit...not
like they like giving money back!

QuoteI was charged back in December for my license renewal, but today I see a reversal crediting it back.

What gives?

Perhaps they're trying to tell you something....   :o  :-X  ;D

 ;)

QuotePerhaps they're trying to tell you something....   :o  :-X  ;D

 ;)

like . . . ?

QuotePerhaps they're trying to tell you something....   :o  :-X  ;D

 ;)

ROTFLMAO!  My thoughts exactly :D

Quotelike . . . ?

Wow, are you serious?

QuoteWow, are you serious?

You do realize you will soon be his only option, right?  So sorry, man.  ;D

I'm suddenly reminded of the Biaggi situation.  Well, except for the money.  And the talent.

Hmmmm, is crap censored on here?  How about aww shit?   :-[

Quotelike . . . ?

you're too fast for CCS?  ;D

Quoteyou're too fast for CCS?  ;D

If you say so.

QuoteIf you say so.

or Loudon is now on the CCS schedule.  ;D

Quoteor Loudon is now on the CCS schedule.  ;D

I doubt that.  Loudon is even making its GT races only 8 laps.

Quoteor Loudon is now on the CCS schedule.  ;D

LMAO!

 ;D

Adam - between this and your fine being sent back you still really and truly don't get what's going on?

QuoteAdam - between this and your fine being sent back you still really and truly don't get what's going on?

no, tell it for everyone here

Adam
What the heck did you do to get sooo popular?

QuoteAdam
What the heck did you do to get sooo popular?

I protested the results of a race.  There was a simple typo made, and it appears the organization running the show was too proud to accept that they might have made a mistake.

The mistake is glaringly obvious and never was corrected, still listed on the website.

For pointing out this error, I was fined $100.

I sent in my fine, and it was returned.

Whats the point in fining someone if you refuse to accept the payment and let everyone move on their merry way.

It can`t be that simple. You sure some high ranking official`s daughter wasn`t involved? ;D

oh god I hope I`m wrong! I WAS KIDDING!

QuoteIt can`t be that simple. You sure some high ranking official`s daughter wasn`t involved? ;D

oh god I hope I`m wrong! I WAS KIDDING!

Nobody's daughter was involved (I'm married with two kids).

Its called extreme arrogance on the part of LRRS.
Its call poor customer service.
Its called having a virtual monopoly.  

Its called a buddy/buddy system where preferential treatment is dished out and biased politics is involved at every turn.

Quoteno, tell it for everyone here

If you insist  ::)  - looks to me like CCS and LLRS don't want you around.  I'd guess the letter will say "hit the road and don't come back thanks we don't need customers like you you're more hassle and work than you're worth and you make us take too much time away from our other customers hurting the service we give to them".  

And to set the record straight you were not fined for protesting - you were fined for being a total ass when your protest was denied.  ;)

QuoteAnd to set the record straight you were not fined for protesting - you were fined for being a total ass when your protest was denied.  ;)

My protest wasn't denied--it was accepted and put on the shelf for 2 months.  Nothing was every done about it, never denied, or even commented on.

Mongo can say what he likes, but the fact remains that I have still not been notified of what rule I violated and for what the fine was for.

On top of that, I was also not given the opportunity to appeal the fine.

WARNING!  WARNING!  ABANDON THREAD!  ALL HOPE IS LOST!  ABANDON THREAD!
 ::) :P

QuoteWARNING!  WARNING!  ABANDON THREAD!  ALL HOPE IS LOST!  ABANDON THREAD!
 ::) :P

SPLASH... <swim> <swim> <swim> <swim> [glub].

a little bird was overheard saying that Mr. Biaggi isn't welcome at a particular NE racetrack. :P

QuoteNobody's daughter was involved (I'm married with two kids).

Its called extreme arrogance on the part of LRRS.
Its call poor customer service.
Its called having a virtual monopoly.  

Its called a buddy/buddy system where preferential treatment is dished out and biased politics is involved at every turn.

I also believe you called Jerry Wood and maybe even Don Hutchinson a crook or a thief on a public board.  That can't be good.

njracer

QuoteI also believe you called Jerry Wood and maybe even Don Hutchinson a crook or a thief on a public board.  That can't be good.

njracer

Actually, I called him a bad businessman.

Nothing you hadn't already said yourself online, that and about 100 other people.

Point aside, I didn't apply for an LRRS license, I applied to CCS directly.

And who refunded the license fee to your card?  Good lord this keeps up and I'll deny you a license because anyone this dense shouldn't be on track with other people  ::)

QuoteAnd who refunded the license fee to your card?  Good lord this keeps up and I'll deny you a license because anyone this dense shouldn't be on track with other people  ::)

CCS, I spoke with Eric this morning.  He confirmed that they charged it but reversed it later in the week.

QuoteMy protest wasn't denied--it was accepted and put on the shelf for 2 months.  Nothing was every done about it, never denied, or even commented on.

Mongo can say what he likes, but the fact remains that I have still not been notified of what rule I violated and for what the fine was for.

On top of that, I was also not given the opportunity to appeal the fine.

You violated the verbal abuse of an official rule - which I'm sure is in the CCS book since it's in ours and I know where Roger used to work.  Now why exactly should you be granted an appeal on a fine that was refunded?  

Either way you acted like an asshole and got nailed for it.  If this whole thing is playing out as I expect I'll warn you now - I'm not as nice as Jerry et al and you abusing the LRRS officials already has you on probation with me.  Read my rulebook before you come play and don't mess up   ;)

QuoteCCS, I spoke with Eric this morning.  He confirmed that they charged it but reversed it later in the week.

And?  You have GOT to be faking this....  

At this point I would like to not that I love the replacement phrases :D

QuoteAnd?  You have GOT to be faking this....  

Faking what?  Eric said this morning he had no idea why it was reversed.

LRRS denied me a license months ago, this wasn't LRRS I was dealing with.

Fwiw, LRRS doesn't use the CCS rulebook, they have their own.

I know that they have their own rules.  But what license do they use?

I ahve to admit I am in awe of you Adam.  I have never seen such dedication before.

Loudon licenses are sent to the LRRS, not CCS.  If you send in a appilcation for an LRRS license to CCS, they will send it back.

And tell me--if someone is never introduced as an official, doesn't wear ANY clothing identifying him as an official, is not listed as an official anywhere--how is anyone supposed to know he IS an official.  The person in question I've never even met before, other than seeing him riding around at nite on an unsafe xr100 with a pair of bull horns on the front.

LOL - maybe you should have a little more respect for everyone....  

Ever wonder why so many bad things happen to you and why they are ALWAYS someone elses fault?

Oh, and evidently if YOU send a license app to CCS they send it back too ;)

Goodnight, I'll swing by tomorrow if I have time to see if reality has reared it's ugly head.

QuoteAnd tell me--if someone is never introduced as an official, doesn't wear ANY clothing identifying him as an official, is not listed as an official anywhere--how is anyone supposed to know he IS an official.  The person in question I've never even met before, other than seeing him riding around at nite on an unsafe xr100 with a pair of bull horns on the front.

Well if he wasn't an official then why were you verbally abuising him about the results you didn't like?  Seems to me you wouldn't have even bothered tlaking to a nobody about the situation yet you obviosuly did (note your lack of denial of the verbal abuse portion anbd the attemtp to blame the guy for not being in uniform).

QuoteActually, I called him a bad businessman.

Nope, actually you called him a crook - I knew I'd seen it somewhere this is from gixxer.com

"Majority of the people who work for LRRS are fine, but Don, Jerry, his ref's, etc are all crooks who have no idea how to run a business. When I'm a paying customer, I expect to be treated like a customer, not a servant."


You're like the old blwo up clowns with sand in the bottom, just don't know when to stay down :D

Now it's goodnight I promise!

There was no 'abuse'.  

If we got into a heated debate, I won't argue that.

The reason I was even talking to him, was that he interjected himself into a conversation I was having with the scoring people (nicely, I'll add), got up in MY face, and started acting 'tough' with me.  I had no idea who this person was and suddenly he's picking a fight with me.

And for the record, the media center (where the scoring is done) was chock full of people, many who are not officials, etc.  A lot of friends of officials like to hang with them in there, and act important.

Chock full?  Want me to quote where you said there wwere only a  few (4 if I recall correctly) and I couldn't name them?

Dude - keep the lies straight, take notes or something, you make this too easy and we won't bother playing any more.

QuoteChock full?  Want me to quote where you said there wwere only a  few (4 if I recall correctly)

you recall incorrectly, try doubling that

Adam:

When it's all said and done....

There is nothing anywhere that states that any race organization needs to provide to you a license.  If CCS chose not to grant you a license, there is nothing in the rule book that I'm aware of that states that they are overstepping their bounds.  It's their playground and they make the rules.

Sorry,

Dawn  

QuoteAdam:

When it's all said and done....

There is nothing anywhere that states that any race organization needs to provide to you a license.  If CCS chose not to grant you a license, there is nothing in the rule book that I'm aware of that states that they are overstepping their bounds.  It's their playground and they make the rules.

Sorry,

Dawn  

I never said they did, but let me know the next time you don't speak up when you are kicked out of your local restaurant for speaking up when your food was served cold.

I don't go out to eat, that's just money wasted.

Here's food for thought....  (bad pun, but I couldn't resist)  

 It's how you speak that determines the outcome of your experience.


 ;)

QuoteI don't go out to eat, that's just money wasted.

Here's food for thought....  (bad pun, but I couldn't resist)  

 It's how you speak that determines the outcome of your experience.


 ;)

And how many threads do you have in here bashing CCS?  How many of those people were blacklisted?

Holy sh!t.  This is like an exchange with either of my kids...

"BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT"

QuoteHoly sh!t.  This is like an exchange with either of my kids...

"BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT"

LMAO!!!!

 ;D

:D

Not to steel this thread but I'm so excited!!!!!!! Just got my 2006 license in the mail!!!!!!!! YES! ! I'm CCS #63!


 ;)


I hate Adam Vella!

Where's the tshirt Adam?  :)

QuoteNot to steel this thread but I'm so excited!!!!!!! Just got my 2006 license in the mail!!!!!!!! YES! ! I'm CCS #63!


 ;)


I hate Adam Vella!

Where's the tshirt Adam?  :)

You'll have to ask the LRRS officials who sold AND bought them.

And yet you still don't get it.....    ;D

QuoteAnd yet you still don't get it.....    ;D

Then why not quit with the hints and smiley faceys and spell it out in plain english for us all?

QuoteThen why not quit with the hints and smiley faceys and spell it out in plain english for us all?

UH OH!  Here it comes! :o

QuoteThen why not quit with the hints and smiley faceys and spell it out in plain english for us all?

Read the thread dufus, I already did!  


Anyone know if denial can be classified as a disease when it's this hard core?

QuoteRead the thread dufus, I already did!  


Anyone know if denial can be classified as a disease when it's this hard core?

Maybe not a disease but it's definitely a handicap ;)

QuoteThen why not quit with the hints and smiley faceys and spell it out in plain english for us all?

Let me try once...

CCS does not want you as a customer
LRRS does not want you as a customer

Keep your lunacy up and WERA will soon not want you as a customer

Is that plain enough?

Adam,

How long has this 'situation' been going on?  It's been discussed here, the WEAR board, the NEAR board, and I'm sure several others.  You have your stance and opinion on the facts, but unfortunately most everyone else sees it a different way.  We all need to learn to pick our battles and this one, I'm sorry to say, you lost.  Continued hammering on the subject got you to the position you are now.

Let it go and lay for a year and see what happens then.  Give those involved a chance to put it in the past.  Right now your actions are just causing those to become more firm in their decision.

My $.02

Dawn

QuoteLet me try once...

CCS does not want you as a customer
LRRS does not want you as a customer

Keep your lunacy up and WERA will soon not want you as a customer

Is that plain enough?

but why?

WERA already doesn't want him but for now th amusement factor outweighs the hassle factor so Evelyne processed his license app this morning.  I doubt it'll last long though, I'm really not as nice as Kevin or Jerry and Evelyne already has told me that Adams all mine she doesn't want to deal with him either ;)

Quotebut why?

Because you sir, are a pain in the patootie.  If you'd ever accept that everyone isn't out to get you and that you might actually have some issues you'll be taking the first steps on the Alcan to recovery.

Mongo, you have never met me or spoken with me in person.

All your impressions are based upon stupid internet arguments and 2nd hand rumors.

You will find that I'm not the person others like to make me out to be.  Nobody else is speaking up, Stalin Hutchinson has made sure of that.

And for the record, Kevin has told me he has NO issues with me and that the only reason he can't license me is because LRRS said so.  He has said if I lived in a different region, he would license me with no issue.

There comes a point when you have to step back and consider that perhaps the rest of the world isn't wrong, and it's you afterall!

In 2002, I had an incident with an official down in St Louis that was so bad, by rights, I should have been arrested.  Within 2 days (although I was right), I was apologizing to anyone who would take my calls.

I wasn't apologizing over the point (because, again, I was right), but rather the fact that I was a complete and total ass about it.

It was one of the more embarrassing points of my life.

QuoteI'm really not as nice as Kevin or Jerry

What does Jerry have to do with any of this?

Huh?  Didn't you already try a fake Maryland address with CCS or was your post on gixxer.com misconstrued?

Listen - seriously - you're right that I only know you via the net, we've never met in person, and yet I still consider you a royal pain in the butt.  That alone should tell you something is wrong.  And no, my opinion is not solely based on your "enemies" influence, it's the net I ignore that stuff.  However you just via your own words have proven yourself to be what they've been saying all along.  I'm actually sorry you can't see the purple elephant in the room but it's still there.

As for the Don's influence - never talked to him or Jerry Wood, never met either of them.  

QuoteWhat does Jerry have to do with any of this?

Hell if I know, you're the one that brings his name up in conjunction with your LRRS issues.  Replace his name with Don's if you prefer.  You keep saying it's his playground after all.

QuoteHuh?  Didn't you already try a fake Maryland address with CCS or was your post on gixxer.com misconstrued?

Nothing was faked

I do have one other question - if we had met in person would you have threatened to sue WERA for posts made by others on our BBS?  Or is that just the internet Adam that no one understands?  

Himm......

Do I lock this thread or do I keep it open and see how big of a hole Adam can dig for himself?

Opinions?

 ::)

QuoteNothing was faked

Oh sorry - well since we have a Mass address for you could you please email me the correct Maryland one so the rulebook mailing etc... gets to you.  Thanks!

QuoteI do have one other question - if we had met in person would you have threatened to sue WERA for posts made by others on our BBS?  Or is that just the internet Adam that no one understands?  

Internet Adam

And for someone who hates lawsuits, lets not forget you were the first one to threaten one to me.

QuoteHimm......

Do I lock this thread or do I keep it open and see how big of a hole Adam can dig for himself?

Opinions?

 ::)

I vote open but you know how I am ;)  

Actually if you want I'll move my end to another bbs...  I'm playing around while waiting on my last RB ad so no need to bother y'all with this stuff unless it amuses you as well.

QuoteInternet Adam

And for someone who hates lawsuits, lets not forget you were the first one to threaten one to me.

Excuse me?  I've never threatened a lawsuit to anyone in my life.  

QuoteOh sorry - well since we have a Mass address for you could you please email me the correct Maryland one so the rulebook mailing etc... gets to you.  Thanks!

What, you don't know people that live in two locations?  Vacation homes?

QuoteHimm......

Do I lock this thread or do I keep it open and see how big of a hole Adam can dig for himself?

Opinions?

 ::)

Oh geez, grow some cojones, woman!  Nobody's gonna use the F word.  We promise.  ;D

QuoteExcuse me?  I've never threatened a lawsuit to anyone in my life.  

On the WERA board, you posted

QuoteTake the copyrighted footage off your website or get sued.

QuoteWhat, you don't know people that live in two locations?  Vacation homes?

No, however some of our racers do - yet they also have what is called an official residence.  They don't pick the one that strikes their fancy at the moment.  They also tend to have all of their racing stuff sent to one address, not one for each sanctioning body, that would make no sense.

QuoteNo, however some of our racers do - yet they also have what is called an official residence.  They don't pick the one that strikes their fancy at the moment.  They also tend to have all of their racing stuff sent to one address, not one for each sanctioning body, that would make no sense.

Kevin said if I had a different address there wouldn't be a problem.

QuoteOn the WERA board, you posted

And whos copyrighted footage was it?  Suzukis.  Or are you only remembering parts of it?  

By the way that was still after your threats to us I believe, I have the email around if you'd like to see it again ;)

QuoteNothing was faked

Okay, so it was real address but used only in order to get a CCS license.  Interesting.  

How can I be sure then the application we got was real and has your real address on it?  After all we may need it for tax purposes and the like.  Or if you get hurt.

QuoteOkay, so it was real address but used only in order to get a CCS license.  Interesting.  

How can I be sure then the application we got was real and has your real address on it?  After all we may need it for tax purposes and the like.  Or if you get hurt.

Easy, if you have the wrong address, then I wouldn't receive my license in the mail.  Cross that bridge when you come to it.

QuoteOh geez, grow some cojones, woman!  Nobody's gonna use the F word.  We promise.  ;D

Cojones is locking the thread and putting up with all the whining after it's done.  I'm sure you know what I mean.

 ;)

QuoteCojones is locking the thread and putting up with all the whining after it's done.  I'm sure you know what I mean.

 ;)

Just teasing.  But if you allowed more fun around here, you and Super Duper Dave wouldn't spend so much time on WERA's board.  ;D

I'm killing myself.  ;D

QuoteJust teasing.  But if you allowed more fun around here, you and Super Duper Dave wouldn't spend so much time on WERA's board.  ;D

I'm killing myself.  ;D

It was more fun when.....


.... one had less authority here.  It's been all down hill since then.

LOL!  

 ;)

Yeah it's a steep downhill run but you have to learn to just relax and enjoy the ride ;D

Yes, do leave it open Dawn...  This is a healthy airing of private issues.   ;D

And a great time waster in the off season. Better than those silly point and shoot games for us coordinationally challenged.

QuoteIt was more fun when.....


.... one had less authority here.  It's been all down hill since then.

LOL!  

 ;)

It was fun when people raced on here...

"racemotorcycles.com"

 ???

 :-X

I'm going racing in 4 weeks is that close enough :)

QuoteIt was fun when people raced on here...

"racemotorcycles.com"

 ???

 :-X

How do you race on the interwebs?  Fantasy league?  Online gaming?  And what happened that made it stop?


 ???
 ;D

I can not believe i read all 7 pages.,   damn

Hey you two!  Get your own argument thread...

QuoteIt was fun when people raced on here...

"racemotorcycles.com"

 ???

 :-X

QuoteI can not believe i read all 7 pages.,   damn

It's not like there's a whole lot of wit to it...  very light reading...

QuoteWERA already doesn't want him but for now th amusement factor outweighs the hassle factor so Evelyne processed his license app this morning.  I doubt it'll last long though, I'm really not as nice as Kevin or Jerry and Evelyne already has told me that Adams all mine she doesn't want to deal with him either ;)

you better give him a license, i don't want him to have an excuse for missing our grudge race at VIR.

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 ;D

Hi Dawn, I'll let you swear over on the WERA BBS if you leave this thread open.  ;D

Dave K

QuoteHi Dawn, I'll let you swear over on the WERA BBS if you leave this thread open.  ;D

Dave K

Hi honey!

Now we have the whole crew here to play!

 ;)

QuoteHi honey!

Now we have the whole crew here to play!

 ;)

There's something nice about not having to be the moderator and just sitting back and enjoying the train ride.  ;D

Back to lurking.

Oh, just let it roll,  I'm sure someone can find a way to spell something... ;D

QuoteThere's something nice about not having to be the moderator and just sitting back and enjoying the train ride.  ;D

Back to lurking.

Bad monkey...bad, bad monkey... ;D

QuoteBad monkey...bad, bad monkey... ;D

for his punishment, are you going to spank him?........... ;D

Yeah you should race just so people can't say, "you don't even race, how can you say...." Heck I'd even loan you a bike to do it. The motard should be fun at Tally, I'll just put some heavier springs in it.. ;D

QuoteI'm going racing in 4 weeks is that close enough :)

Quotefor his punishment, are you going to spank him?........... ;D

Bad cb186... bad, bad cb... ;D

QuoteThere's something nice about not having to be the moderator and just sitting back and enjoying the train wreck.  

Fixed it for ya Dave.

Gawd, after the day/week I've had, this has been most entertaining. Thanks Adam, you are a shining beacon in a world of the ordinarily stupid.

Would a Mod please move this thread to it's rightful location on the WERA BBS?  ;D


Why?
Why?
Why?
 ::)

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QuoteYeah you should race just so people can't say, "you don't even race, how can you say...." Heck I'd even loan you a bike to do it. The motard should be fun at Tally, I'll just put some heavier springs in it.. ;D

I've run a couple of trackdays on it and took Bargy's school on a ZX6R but just don't see racing happening.  I'd never relax enough to have fun.

The official I HATE ADAM VELLA tshirt being auctioned off!  ;D

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QuoteThe official I HATE ADAM VELLA tshirt being auctioned off!  ;D

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I bet you'd get a lot more if it was wet :D

Who is Adam Vella?

Everybody is just too darned likeable here in the midwest.

Somebody is gonna get threatened soon with a frivolous lawsuit based on fictional laws.

We should double check with George's father, but I could have sworn that there was a time limit on the Festivus Airing Of Grievances........ I say enough of this already, lets get on with the Feats Of Strength!!!!

QuoteSomebody is gonna get threatened soon with a frivolous lawsuit based on fictional laws.

You rang?

QuoteSomebody is gonna get threatened soon with a frivolous lawsuit based on fictional laws.

LOLOLOLOL!

QuoteThe official I HATE ADAM VELLA tshirt being auctioned off!  ;D

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How much for the girl?! ;D

Did anyone notice the old guy in the right side of the picture oggling over the shirt spokesmodel?

Where is this place that they actually have women modeling the auction items.  No offense Dave or Russ but c'mon it would be a welcomed change.

QuoteDid anyone notice the old guy in the right side of the picture oggling over the shirt spokesmodel?

And your point would be? What else do you think old guys can do? Take away our ogling and all we have left is being backmarkers for smart@ss kids.  ;D

QuoteWhere is this place that they actually have women modeling the auction items.  No offense Dave or Russ but c'mon it would be a welcomed change.

It was at Loudon and my guess it was to raise money for Vincent or an injured LRRS/CCS racer.  

They have been doing it for years.

Three days now, still no 'letter'  ???

How about a comment.  Kevin?  Eric?

QuoteThree days now, still no 'letter'  ???

How about a comment.  Kevin?  Eric?

unofficial word is in, they dont want your money that badly.

QuoteThree days now, still no 'letter'  ???

How about a comment.  Kevin?  Eric?

"Why do you care? This year, performance index is factored into race points. So your days of finishing last in 5th place - and scoring a ton of points by simply cruising around - ARE OVER!" - Kevin

"I'm curious. Why did Vella name his daughter after a porn star?" - Eric

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From: CCS
PO Box 121278
Fort Worth, TX 76121
Phone: 817-246-1127
Fax: 817-246-2977
8-5 Mon-Thu (Central)

Dear Mr. Vella,

This year CCS has instituted a height requirement, a weight restriction, and disallowed the use of 'training wheels' from most classes. Your license application is being returned.

QuoteThree days now, still no 'letter'  ???

How about a comment.  Kevin?  Eric?

I'm going out on a limb here.  It would seem to me the reversal of the credit card transaction and resulting refund for your license application is a pretty clear indication that they do not want your business.   If you can't figure that out, how is a letter going to help or change anything.   ???

QuoteWhere is this place that they actually have women modeling the auction items.  No offense Dave or Russ but c'mon it would be a welcomed change.

Wow! No one remembers Rhiannon modeling that sexy lingerie courtest of Russ Intravartolo at last years auction? I thought it was kind of suspicious when the cameras only came out when the guys were wearing it!  :o ;) ;D

and quite frankly, in the end, CCS doesn't owe you anything.  They don't owe you a letter or explanation, or a phone conversation, or anything.

They are a private business and have the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime for any reason...

Call 'em.

Don't expect answers on the board...unless you want "fun" ones...

QuoteCall 'em.

Don't expect answers on the board...unless you want "fun" ones...

   :o My check was processed....Does this mean I won't get my OWN t-shirt?

Eric K.- Thanks for the update in the other thread, and "Thank You" for accepting my application, and I apologize for acting like a teething 2 yo brat per refunds last year.

  Good luck Adam- I'd be writing an apology letter if I was denied.

  How much for the little girl? ;D    

Quote I'm going out on a limb here.  It would seem to me the reversal of the credit card transaction and resulting refund for your license application is a pretty clear indication that they do not want your business.   If you can't figure that out, how is a letter going to help or change anything.   ???

So since both CCS and the AMA processed my credit card almost before I mailed out my application, does that mean they really wanted me around?!!? ;D

 ;)

I could say the same of AMA and WERA

:D

QuoteI could say the same of AMA and WERA

:D

You could, but you would be lying....   ;)

QuoteYou could, but you would be lying....   ;)

Par for the course.  ;D

Mongo, stop hating.

Save the children from hate crimes.

QuoteMongo, stop hating.

Save the children from hate crimes.

It's too late 808! Mongo has seeded an outbreak of HATE!

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You see, 808, Marcus is French! You could be next!

This is my first (and probably only) post here.  I'm the rider rep Adam came to for help in this matter.  I acted on his behalf, and basically got shat upon for doing so, both in public and private emails.

I was recently sent this thread, and as I went through the 10 pages, I picked and chose particularly interesting lines.  Some comments will be repetitive ... but if you're here now, you've already shown a high tolerance. ;-)

<<For pointing out this error, I was fined $100.>>
Lie.  That's not true, and he knows it.

<<Its called extreme arrogance on the part of LRRS.>>
Countering Adam on a determination that someone else's behavior is arrogant is difficult, as he truly is expert in this discipline.  At the least, however, this is the pot calling the kettle black.

<<Mongo can say what he likes, but the fact remains that I have still not been notified of what rule I violated and for what the fine was for.>>
Lie.  I've pointed it out 2-3 times.  Here it is again for everyone else:

http://lrrsracing.com/2005/2005%20LRRS%20Rulebook.pdf

Page 5, part 2.0 ... First two sentences.


<<On top of that, I was also not given the opportunity to appeal the fine.>>
Keep reading -- "not subject to protest or appeal."

<<Actually, I called him a bad businessman.>>
Lie.

<<If we got into a heated debate, I won't argue that.>>
Is that an actual concession?  GTFOOH.

<<The reason I was even talking to him, was that he interjected himself into a conversation I was having with the scoring people (nicely, I'll add), got up in MY face, and started acting 'tough' with me.  I had no idea who this person was and suddenly he's picking a fight with me.>>
Chris would not have interjected himself if everything was so nice and friendly.  Everyone else in the room I interviewed after the fact (on Adam's behalf) said as much.

<<And for the record, the media center (where the scoring is done) was chock full of people, many who are not officials, etc.  A lot of friends of officials like to hang with them in there, and act important.>>
Call it chock full, or 4 or 8 people -- or even 9 if we count the newbie in the next room enjoying the A/C who didn't know Adam from Eve.

It's possible these people, (more than half of whom I've shared meals and good times with longer than Adam has been racing) were all lying.

It's also possible they were not.

<<Nobody else is speaking up, Stalin Hutchinson has made sure of that.>>
(Waves hand) Here I am.  Ooops ... forgot, I'm just Don's lapdog.

<<Then why not quit with the hints and smiley faceys and spell it out in plain english for us all?>>
In plain English, as Mongo and others have shown, Adam is a pathological liar -- meaning someone who may or may not know they are lying, but are incabable of stopping either way.

It's either that, or something worse: He's so determined to garner attention that he's purposefully inculcating this never-ending, never-changing diatribe.  "Everyone hates me -- well, except all my supporters -- everyone is out to get me -- well, except all my supporters -- and everyone does a terrible job running these organizations -- well, except for my friends and I  ... we know how to do it better."

ALL of the above behavior is THE reason why his motorcycle racing license has been revoked -- or has been publicly told it's in danger of being revoked by pretty much every other club he's ever raced in.  This includes LRRS, CCS, WERA, and SMUSA. (The AMA will still take anyone's money, I guess.  Oooo ... but then there's that whole "qualifying" bit. "Hey, can we make it a 199% rule?  The fast guys like backmarkers.  They all told me.")

So what is it?  That there is something inherently evil and self-serving in the management of ALL of those organizations?  Or, could it be ... perhaps ... possibly ... that Adam himself is the problem?

Adam's SOLE goal right now is to disrupt LRRS's environment so as to (a) cause them monetary harm, and (b) make himself look less unreasonable.  He's admitted the first part on the club's mailing list.

Adam WILL NOT let you get the last word ... he's incapable of "dropping it", (even when a friend publically begs him to do so ... twice!) because it clearly fulfills some need.

About 7 pages ago, someone noted that this thread was a no-winner.  Hopefully you've seen the Hydra-like quality here ... cut off one argument, two more come at you.  Neither make any more sense than the first, but there you are.

Hopefully I've burned these lies at the stump, but then I always was an optimist.

Enjoy, I'm outta here.

B.J. Worsham

QuoteHopefully you've seen the Hydra-like quality here ... cut off one argument, two more come at you.  

Now THAT is a well-turned phrase!

Quoteor has been publicly told it's in danger of being revoked by pretty much every other club he's ever raced in.  This includes LRRS, CCS, WERA, and SMUSA.

B.J. Worsham

Who the liar now, BJ?  

Show me public scorn by CCS.  Show me the public warnings by LRRS.  Show me ANY issue ever had with SMUSA.  And ironically, I got my WERA license in the mail the other day.

Fact is, NO WARNING was ever presented by LRRS, they just went ahead and did what they felt like, so don't pretend like I've been skating on thin ice and had been told so.

QuoteWho the liar now, BJ?  

Show me public scorn by CCS.  Show me the public warnings by LRRS.  Show me ANY issue ever had with SMUSA.  And ironically, I got my WERA license in the mail the other day.

Fact is, NO WARNING was ever presented by LRRS, they just went ahead and did what they felt like, so don't pretend like I've been skating on thin ice and had been told so.

The liar is you Adam, good god man even you should be able to figure that one out.

CCS and LRRS don't need to say anything publicly, you've done so for them with the threads and emails you've been spewing of late all over the net.  

You have your WERA license yes - but trust me you don't have a clue just how thin the ice is under you.  I hear of an inkling of you acting even a 10th the ass you've proven to be at Loudon it's gone.  The racing community as a whole has put up with you long enough that I'm not going to give you a new home just so you can start all the crap all over again, your past is not in the past, it's sitting on your head like a tumor.

I've kown for years that LRRS has been tired of you and your antics from the dog crap through the arguing over someone parking in "your" spot to the networking cable crap and the final straw last season - why is it you don't know anything about this stuff?  

Grow up and get a clue and even if you feel obligated to lie to everyone else be honest with yourself  You have this last chance then it's all over - don't blow it.

QuoteThe liar is you Adam, good god man even you should be able to figure that one out.

CCS and LRRS don't need to say anything publicly, you've done so for them with the threads and emails you've been spewing of late all over the net.  

You have your WERA license yes - but trust me you don't have a clue just how thin the ice is under you.  I hear of an inkling of you acting even a 10th the ass you've proven to be at Loudon it's gone.  The racing community as a whole has put up with you long enough that I'm not going to give you a new home just so you can start all the crap all over again, your past is not in the past, it's sitting on your head like a tumor.

<sniff>That was beautiful, man.  Just beautiful. </sniff>

QuoteI've kown for years that LRRS has been tired of you and your antics from the dog crap through the arguing over someone parking in "your" spot to the networking cable crap and the final straw last season - why is it you don't know anything about this stuff?  

Sean, I really haven't a clue to ANY of what you're referring to above.  If you can show me examples, I'd love to see it.

QuoteWARNING!  WARNING!  ABANDON THREAD!  ALL HOPE IS LOST!  ABANDON THREAD!
 ::) :P

Page 2 ... SOoooo far ahead of the curve.

B.J.

QuotePage 2 ... SOoooo far ahead of the curve.

B.J.

Yes sir!  :D  K3 can see the future! LOL! LOL!

QuoteSean, I really haven't a clue to ANY of what you're referring to above.  If you can show me examples, I'd love to see it.

ROTFLMAO - you don't remember anything of your life at Loudon?  So what is your drug of choice?  Crack?  Meth?  Plain old maryjane (might explain the memory loss).  What proof would you like, notorized wirtten statements form the witnesses?  Emails with full descriptions form witnesses that are available in the NEAR archives?  Let me know and if I get bored anough to proof BJ right about your lying I'll go find them.  In the meantime, anyone with sense will believe me and not you - wonder why that is?   ???

no, please go search the near list, let me know when you find anything regarding my dogs, network cables, or 'parking spots'

 ::)

Would you like some time so you can come up with excuses?  I'm not bored enough quite yet but if tv doesn't pick up soon....

no time necessary

Quote...your past is not in the past, it's sitting on your head like a tumor.

Mongo, you sure you didn't plagiarize that line from a Dylan song?  ;D

Dawn,
Please don't pull the switch on this thread.  All that's on TV tonight is Dancing with the Stars.  I mean, I can watch figure skating but Dancing stars...man, that's just way over the top.
   ;D

Let's see what's new over here.

Dang, nothing new on this thread.  ;D

QuoteLet's see what's new over here.

Dang, nothing new on this thread.  ;D

shadup PoopWrangler.

QuoteDawn,
Please don't pull the switch on this thread.  All that's on TV tonight is Dancing with the Stars.  I mean, I can watch figure skating but Dancing stars...man, that's just way over the top.
   ;D

Don't worry Don, I won't pull the plug.  It's actually to the point it's hillarious.  Some will just never get a clue.  I think Roger on the WERA board said it best....

QuoteOriginally posted by Rodger Doyle
Adam's not the Anti-Christ, but he has a severe case of "Can'tSTFUitis" --  it may be terminal. :D

 ;D

QuoteLet's see what's new over here.

Dang, nothing new on this thread.  ;D

I see you've been pretty busy over there....

 ;)

Sup Dawn :D


So Adam - here's some of your own words for ya about the networking cable that you ran into a building you weren't supposed to...


"I had my access point hooked up in the media center this weekend and it was working great with great coverage. Andy had no problems with it and said it was fantastic.
Then the administration decided to cause trouble.
NHIS had network problems cuz of a network card gone bad and even after it was fixed the upper management was so 'lame' in the head that they wouldn't let me do a damn thing. Andy was more than willing to let me hook in and thought it was a great idea but said they had fired him too many times to do anything but follow orders.
Sooooo---in other words, until the dogs at NHIS join the rest of us in the 21st century and quit fearing technology, we're shit out of luck.
Fwiw--Andy too wants to setup wireless access points across the paddock and has been getting resistance from them."

Adam #333




Ain't the truth fun?  Of ocurse youor version oddly doesn't match what the others involved said or thought but hey, that's normal for a man so persecuted as you.

Oh eyah - I forgot in my orignal list your theft of copyrighted materials.  Not very nice for a webmaster to do  :-/


Do I need to prove that as well :D

One last one for giggles before I hit the sack - Even John Ulrich has heard about the dog crap in the pits....

"Having said that, it is obvious that Adam Vella often has no awareness of how people perceive him or the dog mess in his pits."

John Ulrich


http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=797807

Mongo--trying quite hard to find something to fit, huh?  Well, your lil scenario doesn't even fit close to what you said earlier, but whatever, it clearly keeps you entertained, and I'm so happy to keep you busy.

I didn't give a damn after they decided to not let network access anymore, I had my own connection.  

Sounded like enough people DID complain though, because they did finally implement a wireless network and let the riders extend it using their own equipment into the garages.  Its not surprising how many people stepped up afterward with solutions, many of them were interested in getting this going  as well, which is why I was informing them of the resistance.

I do fail to see what this has to do with LRRS, though.

QuoteOne last one for giggles before I hit the sack - Even John Ulrich has heard about the dog crap in the pits....

"Having said that, it is obvious that Adam Vella often has no awareness of how people perceive him or the dog mess in his pits."

John Ulrich


http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=797807

JU can say what he likes, I fail to see how that means I got into any issues with any org because of it.  I'm glad to see his comments (which I was stupified by at the time) sway you to believe such nonsense as well.   No, you're not biased and predispositioned to find anything to come after me.

When I was up at Loudon, I clean up after my dogs as we pit in a fully paved area.  At VIR I bury whatever mess they might make in the kitty liter gravel.

Any person who knows me better than the occasional bbs comment will know that I have a small 'poop' shovel with me in the back of the truck at all times for this reason.  I bought the day I got the dogs.

QuoteI do fail to see what this has to do with LRRS, though.

It has about as much to do with LRRS as you do ... now.

;-)

B.J. "Keeping entertained" Worsham

Told ya you'd lie about it - and trouble with ANYONE at the track is trouble with the organization.  I know woth the f-ups are that race WERA, there is no way that a one track org didn't know anything about you and how you act until all of the sudden you got a little upset one weekend.  

QuoteJU can say what he likes, I fail to see how that means I got into any issues with any org because of it.  I'm glad to see his comments (which I was stupified by at the time) sway you to believe such nonsense as well.   No, you're not biased and predispositioned to find anything to come after me.

When I was up at Loudon, I clean up after my dogs as we pit in a fully paved area.  At VIR I bury whatever mess they might make in the kitty liter gravel.

Any person who knows me better than the occasional bbs comment will know that I have a small 'poop' shovel with me in the back of the truck at all times for this reason.  I bought the day I got the dogs.

Wow, so you bury the dog crap from a pair of huskies in the gravel at VIR?  That's more disgusting than I thought you were, funny you see nothing wrong with this, well not surprising of course.

At VIR I take my dogs for walks well away from anywhere a person might go, in the grass, pick up the crap and put it in a trasahcan also far form where anyone is pitting.  That is called being responsible.  Covering it with an inch or so of gravel is not.  Please keep that in mind in March, thanks :)

whatever Mongo, he said/she said.  Thats all it is with you internet clowns.

You keep your itchy finger on that trigger, let me know when I step over your narrow line at the next event.   ::)

QuoteWow, so you bury the dog crap from a pair of huskies in the gravel at VIR?  That's more disgusting than I thought you were, funny you see nothing wrong with this, well not surprising of course.

At VIR I take my dogs for walks well away from anywhere a person might go, in the grass, pick up the crap and put it in a trasahcan also far form where anyone is pitting.  That is called being responsible.  Covering it with an inch or so of gravel is not.  Please keep that in mind in March, thanks :)

And making assumptions is the mother of all... well, you know the rest.

I didn't say it was under an inch of gravel so don't put words in my mouth.

And you say 'pair of huskies' like I'm breeding St Benards or something.  Ever met my dogs (or me for the matter)?  Didn't think so.  They're not big, not even remotely.  A 35lb dog isn't exactly a poop machine.

You also don't know where I pit, which 99% of the time, is as FAR away from the rest of the paddock as possible, usually way way back by the storage shed thing.  Not exactly a high traffic area, which I do on purpose because while I do clean up after my dogs, I can't be there 100% of the time.

QuoteIt has about as much to do with LRRS as you do ... now. ;-)

Zoinks! That'll leave a mark.  ;D

Poop machine or not I can't see anyone wanting to pit in your litterbox.  And it's not he said she said - this is what YOU said.  I assumed you'd pick the crap up and put it in a trashcan for disposal - is that the erronous assumption I amde you're tlaking about?

I have 4 dogs, I've had dogs all my life, they crap the same time(s) every day. They don't crap where they live and that includes their temporary home at the track when properly cared for.  But hey - keep blaming the pups.  ::)

QuotePoop machine or not I can't see anyone wanting to pit in your litterbox.  And it's not he said she said - this is what YOU said.  I assumed you'd pick the crap up and put it in a trashcan for disposal - is that the erronous assumption I amde you're tlaking about?

I have 4 dogs, I've had dogs all my life, they crap the same time(s) every day. They don't crap where they live and that includes their temporary home at the track when properly cared for.  But hey - keep blaming the pups.  ::)

and burial underground isn't considered disposal?  Do you plan on digging that deep with your bare hands in your free time?  

Its underground, out of sight, odorless, biodegradable, etc.  Whats the problem.

The problem is that it's buried in loose soil (again - you said the gravel, not me) in the middle of a race paddock.  Hell no that's not acceptable!  

QuoteThe problem is that it's buried in loose soil (again - you said the gravel, not me) in the middle of a race paddock.  Hell no that's not acceptable!  

How about AGAIN, its not in the middle, so you can stop saying that now.

Yes, the top section is lose kitty liter gravel.  I ALSO said I dug and buried under it--not skimming the surface.

But dont worry Mongo, I wouldn't expect anything less than you giving me constant grief.  For christ sake, at least YOU speak up ahead of time and let everyone know that you hate them.

ROTFLMAO - so now it's not the middle - fine, change my comment ot anywhere in a race paddock.  

It's not below just the loose stuff - digging loosens soil but either way, with a trashcan feet away why would you dig holes in their paddock and bury dog crap?

On the rest -  ::)

And to clarify further, I do collect into a plastic bag and put in the dumpster as well.

You know, small kids like to dig in the dirt.

If my daughter digs up a turd in the paddock at VIR while playing . . .

QuoteYou know, small kids like to dig in the dirt.

If my daughter digs up a turd in the paddock at VIR while playing . . .

Fine Dave, next time you decide to race, you let me know if your daughter digs up a turd.

She's a bit young to be playing in the dirt, though.

She advanced for her age. She digs dirt digging.

She's also wicked fast on her quad.

So now we have that one pretty well straight - here's the parking incident I was talking about - yet again oddly enough - your own words back to haunt ya :)


   " I've parked my trailer in the same spot for years and years, and its never really been a problem as I get there pretty early on Thursday.
    Last year a newbie started parking there. I asked him if I could have my spot back in the future.
    A year later now, and I still haven't gotten my spot back.
    I don't make a big deal of it and just park somewhere else (which tends to be a challenge with such a big truck/trailer combo) but there will be no x-mas cards sent in the future. God help him if ever comes looking for a tool or spare part."

    Adam
    AMA FX#60 SB#160 CCS #63

Is it possible that Webcrush and Cornercamping Dan are the same person?  They SOUND alot alike....

I was JUST thinking the same thing!!
(K3, you can tell the future AND read minds!!)

The internet is fantastic!  Thanks, Al Gore.  ;D

QuoteIs it possible that Webcrush and Cornercamping Dan are the same person?  They SOUND alot alike....

No, I've actually seen Adam at a race track.

QuoteSo now we have that one pretty well straight - here's the parking incident I was talking about - yet again oddly enough - your own words back to haunt ya :)


   " I've parked my trailer in the same spot for years and years, and its never really been a problem as I get there pretty early on Thursday.
    Last year a newbie started parking there. I asked him if I could have my spot back in the future.
    A year later now, and I still haven't gotten my spot back.
    I don't make a big deal of it and just park somewhere else (which tends to be a challenge with such a big truck/trailer combo) but there will be no x-mas cards sent in the future. God help him if ever comes looking for a tool or spare part."

    Adam
    AMA FX#60 SB#160 CCS #63

Good job Mongo, sounds like a real fiasco.  No yelling, swearing, fighting, etc.  I'm amazed they didn't ban me right then and there for that GIANT debacle I started.   I can't imagine how you would construe it if I asked something even more provocative, like asking if I could bring a sandwhich to the track!  ::) ::) (yes that deserved two)

I would think last summer's instance where one person parked their car blocking another's garage and was out on the track--so a track volunteer moved the car.  That resulted in the car owner beating the crap out of the volunteer.  The fair and judicious org let 'that' slide under thet table.  No biggie, kicking the crap outa someone after sucker punching them isn't frowned upon I guess.

If you're going to quote me, Mongo, I'd appreciate it if you at least find the instances where I was causing major trouble.  ( Again  ::) )

I don't know.  But one has to ask what is the common thread with all of this.   Why is it that several organizations and events have similar issues towards the person in question.  

I guess whatever.  It is what it is.  I don't recall any race organization or track club declining my desire to participate.  But yet........some people just don't get it.    

QuoteI don't recall any race organization or track club declining my desire to participate.   

I went to an all-boys Catholic high school.  I was banned from the campus of our sister school next door.  It seemed that the nuns over there didn't appreciate MY desire to participate.... 8)

QuoteWhy is it that several organizations and events have similar issues towards the person in question.  

Garth--they don't, only one does, LRRS.  

CCS isn't allowing me a license as they mandate that LRRS has exclusive rights to the region.

WERA hasn't denied me a license, I haven't even run an event with them.  Mongo bases all his impressions upon internet activity and likes to bust balls

Internet?  In part - but as I have shown here (and you so nicely expounded upon) it's only YOUR words on the internet I am basing it on.  There are many others I know personally who have realted some of the more amusing Adam stories over the years.  I've talked to them in person and via the net. So not totally.  

I'm more than willing to allow people the benefit of the doubt, your WERA license is proof of that.  I know it'll come back to haunt me but I have to give everyone at least one shot.

As for the ball busting - well if you weren't dumb enough to actually post things in public then tell me I couldn't find them and post them here - when you adamantly denied they ever existed.  I like busting liars like you, the stupider you are the easier it is and while it is a LOT like beating up on a retarded kid it still amuses me.  

By the way, you said that these things never happened.  No one ever mentioned at all what level the issue may have escalated to, no one cares, the fact is still the same - you did them, you lied about them, and they were more than enough to have the officials know who you are and what you're like.

(page 13?)  Yah, 13 was my lucky # in high school as a pitcher on the JV and varsity bball teams. This atrocious waste of ether space should at least contain a photo of dog poop in the kitty litter.






















































 ::)

QuoteBy the way, you said that these things never happened.  No one ever mentioned at all what level the issue may have escalated to

Yes, you did say that they escalated to the point of calling them 'antics'.  I said no 'antics' ever occured and to find them.  You still haven't.

QuoteI've kown for years that LRRS has been tired of you and your antics from the dog crap through the arguing over someone parking in "your" spot to the networking cable crap

I think that if nothing ever became of anything, then there was no 'antics', no situation, no commotion, no arguments, and thus no reason for anyone to think I'm causing trouble.

Your detective work has shown nothing but to show that I'm active on the internet--no different than majority of the other people whom are also on the same boards/lists.   You've shown NO evidence of any 'situation' which would compile upon the present situation in which the Director of LRRS has refused to re-license me based upon my claim that they have made mistakes in their race results reporting.  I have the hard document to show this as they specifically state this.

Oh gee, I'm sorry - you don't think telling someone to move from a perfectly legal per the track rules parking space because it was "yours" isn't an antic?  

Now if no one knew about it - why exactly did you feel obligated ot post your side of the incident to the NEAR list?  

Nothing came of any of them because you as usual were in the wrong and once you got called on it you backed down.  Ummm - duh.

I've shown a pattern of bahvior Adam that proves exactly what I said - everyone there at Loudon knows the type of person you are.  That is why you are no longer allowed to race with them.  As you've pointed out they don't do this for just one incident, they obviously have a number of them in your case.

As for not pissing off CCS - didn't you post once you told the CCS officials at Summit to screw off (or something like that) when they asked about your generator and the problems you caused when you arrived the night before waking all your pit neighbors up?  Of course you did.  But go ahead and deny it.  I'll find it later and post it here too :D  

QuoteOh gee, I'm sorry - you don't think telling someone to move from a perfectly legal per the track rules parking space because it was "yours" isn't an antic?  

Now if no one knew about it - why exactly did you feel obligated ot post your side of the incident to the NEAR list?  

Nothing came of any of them because you as usual were in the wrong and once you got called on it you backed down.  Ummm - duh.

I've shown a pattern of bahvior Adam that proves exactly what I said - everyone there at Loudon knows the type of person you are.  That is why you are no longer allowed to race with them.  As you've pointed out they don't do this for just one incident, they obviously have a number of them in your case.

As for not pissing off CCS - didn't you post once you told the CCS officials at Summit to screw off (or something like that) when they asked about your generator and the problems you caused when you arrived the night before waking all your pit neighbors up?  Of course you did.  But go ahead and deny it.  I'll find it later and post it here too :D  

I didn't tell anyone to move, didn't even ask.  I asked if they could NOT park there in the future as to leave me some room.  I also didn't say anything until the following season.  The Loudon paddock isn't large and there is limited space for large rigs (prolly the same reason why YOU choose to direct paddock parking at some of you events?).

You've also quoted me out of context.  While I can't verify it because the NEAR list isn't PUBLIC, I'm sure I was replying to a conversation where somebody was bringing up the space and parking issue.

As if people don't get 'possesive' of a pit spot?  I'll remember that next time I show to a WERA event and I'm told I'm in 'their' space.  Get real.  

I don't know how many times I've been to Summit and told the same thing by a regular, let alone when I started as a AM at Loudon.  The difference being is the 'other' people took it up a level and got mgmt involved.  I didn't, I just posted my feelings in an email.  Guess I broke the number one rule--don't speak up, ever.   ::)

And call Kevin, ask if I ever told an official to 'screw off'.  Quit twisting words you read and taking everything 'literal'.   I spoke with Kevin, and unless he's choosing to be dishonest (I don't think thats in his style) he said he had NO issues with me at all and had no idea what the 'beef' that LRRS had with me was and was TRYING to find out, but LRRS wasn't responding to him.    CCS isn't the problem.  WERA isn't the problem.  LRRS is the problem

Unless the area has been roped off it belongs ot no one.  I'm the only one allowed to rope it off early so I don't really see you having that problem. You know, like it is everywhere including Loudon.  If I remember correctly you hadn't even been there for a few events with an injury of some sort.  

LRRS doesn't sound like a problem, LRRS sounds like the smartest org of the bunch on this subject.

Still antics, still a troublemaker, still a pain to the officials and racers alike.....

On the genset thing I'll find it later because yet again - it was YOUR words.  Nice try on teh segue about Kevin but I haven't said one word about him, what's he got to do with you being a pain anyway?

Nice changing and adding to your excuses.

I will direct parking at my events yes, however last I checked you were not running or officiating in any way at LRRS events which kind of keeps you from having any authority over parking.  I as you may gather, do have that authority and at some of our events responsibility.

Quoting you out of context now?  Dude come on, all I ever said is you told someone to move out of your spot, you lied and said it never happened, I posted your own words proving it did.  There is no context.  The only reason I mentioned WHY you posted is to show you that obviously someone made not of it in public or the excuses you tried never would have been necessary.

I believe the Summit issue was as I said - noise form you and your genset in the middle of the night, that and your attitude is why officials we involved, nothing to do with where you parked but again - more to do with you being you.

QuoteUnless the area has been roped off it belongs ot no one.  I'm the only one allowed to rope it off early so I don't really see you having that problem. You know, like it is everywhere including Loudon.  If I remember correctly you hadn't even been there for a few events with an injury of some sort.  

Maybe you should come to Loudon some time, people rope off areas all the time, and none of them done by LRRS.  Its a first come, first serve basis--and I have no problem with that.  

Does it mean I'm not allowed to ask someone a favor and not park in a location--maybe move down 25 feet or so and share some space?

Yes, I was out for a few events with an injury, which is why the person didn't know, and I gave him plenty of slack and when he chose to continue to park there, I went and found another space in the future.  Didn't know I'm not allowed to speak of it.   ::)

Sorry to everyone for the bad typing but I'll refrain form editing my posts, I'd rather you see what I typed instead of it being changed to have a different meaning....  :D

QuoteMaybe you should come to Loudon some time, people rope off areas all the time, and none of them done by LRRS.  Its a first come, first serve basis--and I have no problem with that.  

Does it mean I'm not allowed to ask someone a favor and not park in a location--maybe move down 25 feet or so and share some space?

Yes, I was out for a few events with an injury, which is why the person didn't know, and I gave him plenty of slack and when he chose to continue to park there, I went and found another space in the future.  Didn't know I'm not allowed to speak of it.   ::)

ROTFLMAO - all of this and you still don't get it, you're almost cute that way :D

You didn't show up and rope off an area Adam, someone else was in "your" space and you tried to tell them to move.  Period.  

I don't care what you talk about but you really shouldn't lie and say it never happened.  

QuoteI will direct parking at my events yes, however last I checked you were not running or officiating in any way at LRRS events which kind of keeps you from having any authority over parking.  I as you may gather, do have that authority and at some of our events responsibility.

Why do you manage parking?  Is it because due to limited space, you do it to make sure it all works out?  Maybe YOU should teach other orgs to do the same.  I wasn't trying to 'officiate', I was using common sense.

QuoteQuoting you out of context now?  Dude come on, all I ever said is you told someone to move out of your spot, you lied and said it never happened, I posted your own words proving it did.  There is no context.  The only reason I mentioned WHY you posted is to show you that obviously someone made not of it in public or the excuses you tried never would have been necessary.

Go ahead, repost it again--I NEVER TOLD ANYONE TO EVER MOVE.  NOT ONCE.

And there is always context.  If someone asked if there was any problems with something, that adds to the context.  What was the subject of the original email?  

Ironically, the only person making 'note' of anything is you.

Quotesomeone else was in "your" space and you tried to tell them to move.  Period.  

maybe you should work on your reading comprehension--I never told anyone to move, and your own 'quote' of it shows that.  

Maybe its time for some glasses

and to iterate again, in case you're still seeing blurry from the drinks last nite, the word I used was 'ask'.

No 'telling', 'ordering', 'mandating', 'forcing', etc--just asking.

Since when is 'asking' causing a problem?

Ahhhhh, I see so now that you've been blown out of the water on all your other lies you're going to try and use semantics to prove you're right.  Fine, change everything I said to asked just like your email says.  You and I both know better.  Your following line whining about how a yea rlater and you still don't have "your" spot back is proof enough you were pissy about it - especially since there is not such thing as "your" spot....  

You can keep trying but don't you think you've failed enough for one day?

Quoteand to iterate again, in case you're still seeing blurry from the drinks last nite, the word I used was 'ask'.

No 'telling', 'ordering', 'mandating', 'forcing', etc--just asking.

Since when is 'asking' causing a problem?

See, like a book I can read ya :D

QuoteAhhhhh, I see so now that you've been blown out of the water on all your other lies you're going to try and use semantics to prove you're right.  Fine, change everything I said to asked just like your email says.  You and I both know better.  Your following line whining about how a yea rlater and you still don't have "your" spot back is proof enough you were pissy about it - especially since there is not such thing as "your" spot....  

Yeah, we both know better--in fact I drilled holes in the guys trailer and then smashed his bike with a pipe wrench.   ::)  If you KNOW something then spell it out, cuz your little innuendo's mean nothing.

You're making a lame attempt to show how me, asking someone to move down, is the equivelent of causing mass chaos at a race event--couldn't you find anything more provocative?  maybe like the time I asked for ketchup with my french fries (mongo translated to mean--started a food fight with motor oil), or the time I had to ask for a different transponder because the battery was weak (mongo translated to mean--urinated on the registration staff and stole all the remaining transponders).

Quite an imagination you have Mongo.

Never said anything along the liones of mass chaos- nor have I insinuated anything like that. In this particular instance I believe that you are lying about "asking" and I am positive you tried telling - just as you lied yesterday about the incident ever happening.  Just as you're lying baout what happened in the media center that lost you your license.  Just as BJ and I have proved you lied about a lot of stuff.

Obviously failure isn't an issue for you so I guess I should have known better :)  

QuoteNever said anything along the liones of mass chaos- nor have I insinuated anything like that. In this particular instance I believe that you are lying about "asking" and I am positive you tried telling - just as you lied yesterday about the incident ever happening.

So, to sum up your argument:

You are sure I 'told' someone to move (thus causing problems).  

I said I never did that.  

You find only find an email where I asked someone to move.  

Since I'm obviously a pathological liar, there is 'no way' I only asked the person, so your assumption that I caused an 'issue' holds.

Thats great logic there, Sherlock.  Maybe you should start working on that Jon Benet Ramsey kid search.  ::)

oh, and since I 'must' have started an issue over a parking and didn't 'ask', this upholds your circular logic that I'm a liar (thus the evidence for your argument)!!

Wow, now if only the rest of the world worked the way you would like it to.

Quoteoh, and since I 'must' have started an issue over a parking and didn't 'ask', this upholds your circular logic that I'm a liar (thus the evidence for your argument)!!

Wow, now if only the rest of the world worked the way you would like it to.

No, your easily provable lying is what leads me to the belief that you're once again lying.  Pay attention.  The logic involved is very linear and not a curve in sight.

You two aren't ever going to quit this, are you?

QuoteNo, your easily provable lying is what leads me to the belief that you're once again lying.  Pay attention.  The logic involved is very linear and not a curve in sight.

right, just like telling my side of a story means i lied about that too  Whats next--you gonna invent some new Newtonian/Nizche existential law of physics?

::)

QuoteYou two aren't ever going to quit this, are you?

oh c'mon, like there's anything better to do right now? :D

LOL!  I'll agree.  Not much happening on the board right now.

Anyone know of a nice TZ125 for sale?

QuoteYou two aren't ever going to quit this, are you?

I am - Barrett Jackson is on :D

No real need to do more here other than for pure amusement.

My eyes are blurry, I'm gonna drive up to Road America, shovel myself out a parking spot, and rope it off.  I hope nobody's dog craps in the T-1 pea gravel 'cause if history is any indicator, I'll probably be cart-wheeling through there at the end of April.  I don't want any poop stains on my new Vanson's.   ;D

Holy crap - a friends of mines dad is into muscle cars - his Sox and Martin drag racer (69 Cuda) just sold for $230k  :o

QuoteHoly crap - a friends of mines dad is into muscle cars - his Sox and Martin drag racer (69 Cuda) just sold for $230k  :o

that would buy a lot of tires....

And how.  Make for a lot of advertising and purse money too.  

These things are totally ridiculous.  Too many ex-hippies with a crapload of excess cash or something.

I think it's a my d!ck is bigger than your d!ck contest. What a waste!

Please make it stop! :-*

QuotePlease make it stop! :-*

Yew got a awful purdy mouth, boy!   :-X

Quotei lied about that too  Whats next--you gonna invent some new Newtonian/Nizche existential law of physics?

::)

Make it stop?  Oh c'mon Kevin.  It's just starting to turn into a really intellectual discussion.  I mean, Adam is just about to enlighten us on "Nizche"...you know, that famous "existential physicist" dude.  This should be good.  We'll all get a new outlook on life's mysteries.  ;D ;D

This whole thread is the BBS equivalent of a COPS episode.  Mongo's the reasoning police officer trying to make the crackhead understand that yes, in fact, he did just beat his drunk girlfriend and run away from the scene, and we're all just sitting here on our couches thinking to ourselves that we really ought to be doing something productive with our time...you get the idea.  ;D

QuoteYew got a awful purdy mouth, boy!   :-X

Run away! Run away!  :o

QuoteRun away! Run away!  :o

;D

QuoteIf you're going to quote me, Mongo, I'd appreciate it if you at least find the instances where I was causing major trouble.  ( Again  ::) )

http://insider.speedtv.com/viewtopic.php?p=602617&highlight=#602617

Webcrush's words:


1. Summit Point Sucks
2. Cicada's suck
3. Steering Dampers are our friends
4. Summit still Sucks
5. Tech guys can be kewl
6. Dunlop reps MidAtlanta Suck
7. Don't let off, EVER
8. Summit really sucks in the wet
9. Wood is cool
10. Meatballs suck
11. 3 yr old rain tires work great in rain, ok in drying, and suck in dry
12. CCS Sucks ass
13. Repacking the bearings on your trailer does not make you immune to bearing failure



"Someone down there already told me there was no spots to park so I picked up a 5500 watt (8500 surge) Generac generator. Got to Summit at 2am. Drove around paddock 3 times looking for a spot to park, ended up on a grassy section down past the tech shed by the gravel areas. Fire up the generator to get some light and stuff and some guy comes over complaining about the noise, saying all generators have to be off by 10pm. I say fine, let me plug into your outlett, he says no. Great, I tell him to go $crew (next morning CCS officials tell me I can't run it, I tell them to go $crew as well as they're not willing to do ANYTHING to help me in this situation, why should I help them. "

no, i never said any of that, i was lying.   ::)

Quoteno, i never said any of that, i was lying.   ::)

uhhhhh ... WTF are you talking about?
You wrote it. You admitted to being a pr!ck.
End of story.(?)

oh, and everyone say hi to Will Torbert the 3rd, the infamous stalker psycho.

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Everyone say hi to Adam Vella. Enough said ...
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Its 2:30 Will and that shit is funny!

This thread is definately better with pictures...

"Infamous Stalker Psycho"?!?!
Mr. Torbert, anytime you'd like to show up armed with Truth (evidence of malfeasance), Justice (creative, funny pics) & The American Way ("stalking")......Please do so!

I always enjoyed watching CCD struggle when confronted with the truth, and now it's the sequel!  With more pics!!

shoot.  i'm outta popcorn...

anybody wanna help a brutha?

I always like to help!!!! I need to get some boots on, the sh*t is getting pretty deep in here, LOL!!!

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How about the boots you wore at the banquet?  In fact, how about the whole outfit?  You sure wouldn't be at risk of dragging the hem of your skirt in the BS....
If you wore that getup on a corner, I might just have to crash there on purpose! ;)

Outfit?  We need more pics and I ain't talking bout Will's chops of Adam!!!!  

I can see why Oddo (Will) turned to the chops, they're funnier and take some effort where proving Adam lies is just too simple.

Now on to pictured of Suzy!!  :D

My goodness....

Take a day to work on the house and look at all I missed. Five pages added to this thread.  LOL!!!!

BTW, Wade unsubscribe to this thread and stop yer whinin'

 ;D

QuoteBTW, Wade unsubscribe to this thread and stop yer whinin'

 ;D

ROTFLMAO!!!!  


So anyway, Suzy, pictures from the banquet, anyone???

Will saves the day yet again!  The quotes about CCS and Summit Point are priceless.  ;D

At what point does lying become a medical issue?  Cuz I think we've stepped well into "pathological" here.

Main Entry: de·ni·al
Pronunciation: di-'nI(-&)l, dE-
Function: noun

a psychological defense mechanism in which confrontation with a personal problem or with reality is avoided by denying the existence of the problem or reality

QuoteSuzy, pictures from the banquet, anyone???

After the way you and your boyz beat her up on the WERA BBS, and after all the compassion and goodwill you've shown over here, do you really think she's going to be posting any pictures for your amusement?
You're delusional Mongo.  Remember that a pinch of kindness buys more than a pound of azzholes

QuoteAfter the way you and your boyz beat her up on the WERA BBS,.....

oh.  it's that suzy.

OMG! The pictures are killing me!  ;D

QuoteAfter the way you and your boyz beat her up on the WERA BBS, and after all the compassion and goodwill you've shown over here, do you really think she's going to be posting any pictures for your amusement?
You're delusional Mongo.  Remember that a pinch of kindness buys more than a pound of azzholes

I kind of remember her more than holding her own - didn't realize she felt differently.  

As for compassion and goodwill - other than Adam who doesn't actually count as a real person when have I been out of line here?  

QuoteThere was no 'abuse'.  

If we got into a heated debate, I won't argue that.

The reason I was even talking to him, was that he interjected himself into a conversation I was having with the scoring people (nicely, I'll add), got up in MY face, and started acting 'tough' with me.  I had no idea who this person was and suddenly he's picking a fight with me.

That's very interesting, Adam. It's an interesting spin on how things happened, but as has been pointed out in numerous other posts, you're a pathological liar. This one takes the cake. I've been quiet on the subject, but you've spun this tale so many different ways, I think it's time for everyone to hear the truth.

Now I may be one who could be considered a little bit biased, particularly since I'm the person who fined Adam, but here is the account of what I experienced in as an impartial manner as I can express.

Adam came into a restricted area of our media center and stood next to me as I was dealing with some paperwork from a previous race. He stood there silently waiting for someone to ask him if he needed something. I asked what he wanted and Adam inquired about the number of entries listed for his previous race. I've seen Adam come into the media center nearly every weekend regarding this issue and I even knew what he was going to ask before he did. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and explained that the reason the number of entries had changed was that we had a red flag incident prior to completing the first lap and the race would be considered a complete restart.  I explained to Adam that since we considered the race a complete restart and one of the riders involved in the red flag was unable to make the start due to a mechanical failure, he would not be counted toward the number of riders in the starting grid. Adam seemed unable to grasp this concept so I explained it to him a couple of different ways. Adam insisted that my explaination was not to his satisfaction and I needed a better reason to change the number. I explained to Adam that my explaination was fully sufficient, the results would not be changed and that this is no longer a point up for debate. Adam continued to insist that I provide a better explaination. I told Adam that the discussion was over and that I was really busy trying to deal with a situation from a previous race so we could get the preliminary results posted. Adam persisted and said "that's not good enough, I want a better explaination why you changed the results." I told Adam that I had enough and I would no longer discuss the matter and told him to leave the media center. Adam refused to leave the media center after my telling him no less than 3 times at which point I told Adam that if he would not leave the media center, that I would suspend his racing license and have him removed by NHIS security. That  quickly got Adam's attention. As Adam started to leave, he provided some colorful words in my direction, to which I replied "Now you just earned yourself a $50 fine". Even more colorful words followed to which I replied "now it's $100 fine if you want to race" and I asked him if he would like to keep going. The door slammed as Adam left and I was able to continue about my business.

Later I informed pre-grid that Adam was not allowed to race unless they heard otherwise from me (a few of the girls cheered). Not surprisingly, later in the day there was a request for a referee to come to pre-grid. As I went there, I noticed Adam on his bike ready to go. I told Adam that he wasn't racing until he paid the fine to which he relplied that he had not heard anything about a fine. I told Adam that I'm not going to play his childish games and to go park the bike.

The events that transpired from there would take another 10 pages to write. Suffice to say that Adam tried everything he could to get out of the fine and ultimately packed up and left for the weekend.

Adam will certainly refute what transpired, but this is 100% accurate and I have witnesses to back it up. I'm certain Adam will note that we are all biased, pathological liars -- including the first weekend newbie who was sitting nearby enjoying the air conditioning and heard everything.

Good luck, Mongo. He's all yours.

QuoteI think it's time for everyone to hear the truth.

Wow, two accounts of the same story, both claim the other lies!!  Odd, no other actual witness to the matter speaks up.

QuoteAdam inquired about the number of entries listed for his previous race....

...one of the riders involved in the red flag was unable to make the start due to a mechanical failure, he would not be counted toward the number of riders in the starting grid.

Amazing, still don't see what the two counts have to do with each other.  One is the number of people signed up for the race, the 2nd is the number of people who start the race.  Why the problem being able to distinguish one from the other.  Was that rider not entered in the race?  Was he not listed on the grid?  Did he not pay his entry fee?  

He was a DNS, why not list him as such?

Chris--since you're so IN the know, maybe YOU can explain the UNGP results error from the Loudon FUSA weekend and tell us why nothing has been done?

I'm begining to think Adam is related to cornercamping Dan!  :o

QuoteI kind of remember her more than holding her own - didn't realize she felt differently.  

As for compassion and goodwill - other than Adam who doesn't actually count as a real person when have I been out of line here?  

Thanks Chris, your great for defending me, and I did feel like Sh*t at first when I got bashed, but then thought to myself let's fight fire with fire, so I did, remember this post,

LOOK FOR YOUR BOSS BEFORE READING (http://www.masturbateforpeace.com/)

That put some of them in there place, but I do have to say that Mongo did defend me, so don't be upset at him Chris, I did hold my own and gave them a way to release their angry attitudes, and now it looks like some here need to be reminded LOL!!!

As far a pictures, I don't think anyone took any of me, sorry no pics.  :(

Dunno...

Fine's a fine.  Not knowing or anything doesn't change anything.  Pay it, and go from there.

At some point, a commitee can't rule on everything, and someone has to make decisions.  

I know that we keep asking for fines to be imposed in the MW CCS region for things we think are stupid.

Adam, pay the fine and be done with it.



Or we can just keep going on and on.


I want more pictures.  Those were frickin' funny...regardless of who they were of...

QuoteLOOK FOR YOUR BOSS BEFORE READING (http://www.masturbateforpeace.com/)

LOL!

QuoteAdam, pay the fine and be done with it.

Dave--I did pay the fine, several months ago.

LRRS sent it back with a refusual to accept it.

Whats the point in assessing a fine if you have no intention of allowing it to be paid?

QuoteDave--I did pay the fine, several months ago.

LRRS sent it back with a refusual to accept it.

Whats the point in assessing a fine if you have no intention of allowing it to be paid?

Because they no longer want you as a customer....



... get a clue and move on.

Suzy - bummer about no pics - the url kicked ass and worked quite well I believe :)

Adam - wonder if stupid crap like this thread got them to the point where they sent the fine back and if you hadn't gone around lying about how they were going to trade it for garage fees or some other crap they might have taken it and you could race there.

Chris (the LRRS one) - Never having met you I think I may learn to hate you for all this  ;D

QuoteAdam, pay the fine and be done with it.

Or we can just keep going on and on.

Aaaagh ... nonononononononono!

("Press here to restart vicious cycle.") "  Click.

"I did pay the fine, several months ago."

Weeks would be more correct, but either way it ignores the fact that it was months too late.  AS CHRIS WROTE, they were ready to accept payment from you immediately.  If you'd had paid it that day ... or that week, or that month ... you coulda been someplace else than where you are now.

Instead, you chose to write "LRRS will never see another dime from me."  And offer B.S. equivocations about how you "might have paid it, or someone paid it for you, or it might have been dropped ... " la de da de da.

You parsed yourself right out of the club, Adam, and out of the respect of every one else who reads your tripe.  The someplace you're at is your, um, "vacation home" perched on thin ice with the only club-type roadracing organization that has offered you a license.

Now, ignore 99% of the above and ask me to explain one little detail again.  Or parse something to your own advantage, again.  Or for the umpteenth time say "show me where I did this?"

You'll never give up.  That's apparent.  But you'll never, ever, win.

Click, click, click, click.

B.J. "Side of pariah, please" Worsham

QuoteBecause they no longer want you as a customer....



... get a clue and move on.

Thanks Dawn!

Adam - how come everyone EXCEPT for you can see and understand this?!!?!?

Quote"I did pay the fine, several months ago."

Weeks would be more correct, but either way it ignores the fact that it was months too late.  AS CHRIS WROTE, they were ready to accept payment from you immediately.  If you'd had paid it that day ... or that week, or that month ... you coulda been someplace else than where you are now.

Instead, you chose to write "LRRS will never see another dime from me."  And offer B.S. equivocations about how you "might have paid it, or someone paid it for you, or it might have been dropped ... " la de da de da.

You parsed yourself right out of the club, Adam, and out of the respect of every one else who reads your tripe.  The someplace you're at is your, um, "vacation home" perched on thin ice with the only club-type roadracing organization that has offered you a license.

Now, ignore 99% of the above and ask me to explain one little detail again.  Or parse something to your own advantage, again.  Or for the umpteenth time say "show me where I did this?"

You'll never give up.  That's apparent.  But you'll never, ever, win.

Click, click, click, click.

B.J. "Side of pariah, please" Worsham

No, it was months ago, I sent it back in October.   I have the returned envelope and paperwork (dated Nov 2nd) right here.

And for all the talk of 'who paid the fine', did you forget that YOU yourself offered to pay the fine yourself if I came back to race with you?  Yes, its easy to forget, isn't it.  

If YOU and everyone else who also urged me to just pay the fine thought it was reasonable to send in a check at that point in time, there was no reason for me to think any differently.

Damn me for actually following the suggestion of the glorified 'rider rep' and it turns out HE's wrong as well.

QuoteNo, it was months ago, I sent it back in October.

btw, it was sent only two weeks after the last event of the season.

whew!  I finally caught up.  I was 8 laps down, but managed to make it up this morning.

This is simply amazing.  I said a while back that this was like dealing with my kids, but this FAR exceeds what they're capable of...

QuoteNo, it was months ago, I sent it back in October.
...
Damn me for actually following the suggestion of the glorified 'rider rep' and it turns out HE's wrong as well.

I guess I was wrong about the date Adam sent it in.

But clearly, it was still too late -- due to the passage of time, or the passage of deleterious comments, outbound through his servers.

Ooops, wrong again ... the internet Adam is not the "real" Adam, is it?

As the poster child for those afflicted with an inflated ego, Adam is the "glorified" one here.  It's true that against the advice of the management, the other rep, and most everyone else I spoke to, I tried to help him out.

I just didn't realize he was beyond saving, so damn ME for trying to help him.  And he can be assured, I WILL NOT FORGET trying to help only to find out that he lied to me when beseeching my help.

As far as I'm concerned, it was really all over at that point.  And since we don't live in the same state, no longer race in the same organization, and I have a delete key, it's time to say "Goodbye" to Adam.

This the last post I will ever make on this subject.  

B.J. "The crowd erupts" Worsham

QuoteThis the last post I will ever make on this subject.  

B.J. "The crowd erupts" Worsham

I doubt it, you've said that before.

And no, I never lied to you.  Two sides to every story, like I said.  You choosing to accept one over another is your choice, as is your opinion of mine.  None of is it fact, all opinion.

Did you, or did you not offer to pay the fine just a few months ago?  Because you weren't helping me any then, you were just urging me to send in a payment for the fine--which I did.  

So, you're basically saying that following the 'rider reps' suggestions is not a good idea, because even following their suggestions aren't going to work.

Dumbass, party of one? Your table is ready.

Wow, this is still going? Well catching up was an interesting read over my lunch of stuffed pasta shells, an apple and a home-made spicy brownie. What did y'all have for lunch?  ;D

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QuoteWow, this is still going? Well catching up was an interesting read over my lunch of stuffed pasta shells, an apple and a home-made spicy brownie. What did y'all have for lunch?  ;D

A bowl of Raisin Bran Crunch and an orange.....

 ;)

QuoteWow, this is still going? Well catching up was an interesting read over my lunch of stuffed pasta shells, an apple and a home-made spicy brownie. What did y'all have for lunch?  ;D

Home-made spicy brownie?

I believe you're trying to mislead the general public by that statement. I believe, and intend to prove, said bakery good is neither home-made, nor spicy and not even a brownie for that matter.

Do you mean to imply that said bakery item was made by you in your home? If not by you, then whom? And in who's home? Really now, was it a home at all? If it was indeed made by you and in your home, who else was there at the time? Who witnessed the baking of said item? Isn't it interesting that no one else is speaking up to verify that it indeed was made by you in your home? And what location was said bakery actually made, and is that indeed your home? Have you paid for said home or do you rent? So in fact, we have established that it is not "your" home at all. So in that regard, how could said bakery item be considered home-made?

And Furthermore, to call said bakery item spicy is purely subjective. Surely you don't mean to imply that what one person finds spicy may or may not be considered spicy by a second individual. The real question is what constitutes spicy and what spices were contained in said bakery item. Surely said item's spicy nature is simply your opinion which I do not share and thus can not be construed nor implied.

The said bakery item wasn't even brown, was it? Did you or did you not say the bakery item was in fact a brownie? How could it possibly be a brownie if it in fact was not even brown? Are you colored blind? Are you able to see or distinguish the color brown? Was it verified by an independent third-party examination to indeed be brown?

I thought not.

LMAO!!!!!!

Oh man Jack!  You have the Vella' syndrome.

 ;D

QuoteDumbass, party of one? Your table is ready.

I now have diet pepsi in my sinuses...  Thanks dutch!  You'll be hearing from Adam's lawyer on this.

I hate that I can't remember my password.
Ah well, this thread was worth the time to re-register. ;D

QuoteHome-made spicy brownie?

I believe you're trying to mislead the general public by that statement. I believe, and intend to prove, said bakery good is neither home-made, nor spicy and not even a brownie for that matter.

Do you mean to imply that said bakery item was made by you in your home? If not by you, then whom? And in who's home? Really now, was it a home at all? If it was indeed made by you and in your home, who else was there at the time? Who witnessed the baking of said item? Isn't it interesting that no one else is speaking up to verify that it indeed was made by you in your home? And what location was said bakery actually made, and is that indeed your home? Have you paid for said home or do you rent? So in fact, we have established that it is not "your" home at all. So in that regard, how could said bakery item be considered home-made?

And Furthermore, to call said bakery item spicy is purely subjective. Surely you don't mean to imply that what one person finds spicy may or may not be considered spicy by a second individual. The real question is what constitutes spicy and what spices were contained in said bakery item. Surely said item's spicy nature is simply your opinion which I do not share and thus can not be construed nor implied.

The said bakery item wasn't even brown, was it? Did you or did you not say the bakery item was in fact a brownie? How could it possibly be a brownie if it in fact was not even brown? Are you colored blind? Are you able to see or distinguish the color brown? Was it verified by an independent third-party examination to indeed be brown?

I thought not.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Even though I rent, I have lived in the same abode since 1989, and thus it is my "home".

I did, in fact make the brownie from my own recipe using my own purchased individual ingredients, in the oven, in my home, and thus it was not a "box mix" brownie.

The brownie recipe is indeed a "spicy" brownie, as I have added the not so secret ingredient cayenne, which is in fact a spice and not an herb, thus turning the brownie "spicy".

The brownie is indeed brown, from the addition of cocoa, the brown powdery substance made by grinding cocoa beans.

Thus I have dis-proven your attempt to dis-prove that my home-made spicy brownie is (was) in fact a haome-made spicy brownie.

You are just jealous because I have now eaten said brownie and you can't have any.  :P ;) ;D

I've never seen a brownie broken down into such analytical terms, BTW, exactly WHAT kind of spice besides cocoa??

QuoteI've never seen a brownie broken down into such analytical terms, BTW, exactly WHAT kind of spice besides cocoa??

The "not so secret ingredient, cayenne".  ;D

You gotta be careful though, cuz what it tastes like before you bake the batter, is intensified after the brownies are baked.

That's very interesting, you'll have to bring some to BHF for me to try. Those brownies could end up being a nasty trick to someone if they didn't know LOL!!

19 pages later and this thread has finally gotten to the point of containing some usefull information that none of us already knew.

You CAN use cayenne when making brownies. Who knew?  ;D

Since we've gone ADD with this topic, hey Alexa!  Check out my fancy new office...

Still need to bring in the huge desk from the back garage, but you get the picture...

http://www.cbr600rr.com/gallery/office/

QuoteSince we've gone ADD with this topic, hey Alexa!  Check out my fancy new office...

Still need to bring in the huge desk from the back garage, but you get the picture...

http://www.cbr600rr.com/gallery/office/

Deeeeyammmnnnn. You have a fireplace in your "office".

That thar trim shore does look purty. You use one of them facified brad nailers to install that?   ;D

That's funny. A Honda guy with Kawasaki Green walls.  :P

Sorry Mongo.  Guess I spoke out of turn.  And I can ADMIT IT!
As a peace offering, here is a mental picture of Suzi at the banquet.  Knee-high boots, fishnets, a schoolgirl skirt short enough to make Brittany Spears blush, a risque top, and a yard of shimmery blond hair to top it all off.  In total, it was a look quite sufficient to cause a teenaged boy to faint, or a dirty old man to feel chest pains.  (Chest STILL hurts a little.... :-[)
Best of all, She won the rookie worker of the year award, so we all got to see her at the podium!
There WERE more than a few appreciative whistles....

QuoteHome-made spicy brownie?

I believe you're trying to mislead the general public by that statement. I believe, and intend to prove, said bakery good is neither home-made, nor spicy and not even a brownie for that matter.

Do you mean to imply that said bakery item was made by you in your home? If not by you, then whom? And in who's home? Really now, was it a home at all? If it was indeed made by you and in your home, who else was there at the time? Who witnessed the baking of said item? Isn't it interesting that no one else is speaking up to verify that it indeed was made by you in your home? And what location was said bakery actually made, and is that indeed your home? Have you paid for said home or do you rent? So in fact, we have established that it is not "your" home at all. So in that regard, how could said bakery item be considered home-made?

And Furthermore, to call said bakery item spicy is purely subjective. Surely you don't mean to imply that what one person finds spicy may or may not be considered spicy by a second individual. The real question is what constitutes spicy and what spices were contained in said bakery item. Surely said item's spicy nature is simply your opinion which I do not share and thus can not be construed nor implied.

The said bakery item wasn't even brown, was it? Did you or did you not say the bakery item was in fact a brownie? How could it possibly be a brownie if it in fact was not even brown? Are you colored blind? Are you able to see or distinguish the color brown? Was it verified by an independent third-party examination to indeed be brown?

I thought not.

 ;D

QuoteLMAO!!!!!!

Oh man Jack!  You have the Vella' syndrome.

 ;D

LMAO  ;D

Quote;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Even though I rent, I have lived in the same abode since 1989, and thus it is my "home".

I did, in fact make the brownie from my own recipe using my own purchased individual ingredients, in the oven, in my home, and thus it was not a "box mix" brownie.

The brownie recipe is indeed a "spicy" brownie, as I have added the not so secret ingredient cayenne, which is in fact a spice and not an herb, thus turning the brownie "spicy".

The brownie is indeed brown, from the addition of cocoa, the brown powdery substance made by grinding cocoa beans.

Thus I have dis-proven your attempt to dis-prove that my home-made spicy brownie is (was) in fact a haome-made spicy brownie.

You are just jealous because I have now eaten said brownie and you can't have any.  :P ;) ;D

Wrong, you are not telling the truth.  This never happened.  No one else will verify that this happened.  Funny how millions of brownies are made each year and you expect everyone to believe in a spicey brownie.

I've made "Special" brownies back in my misspent youth, but I can't specify the special ingredient.... 8)

QuoteChris--since you're so IN the know, maybe YOU can explain the UNGP results error from the Loudon FUSA weekend and tell us why nothing has been done?

I believe that was a situation that I handled where I was called to pre-grid because a rider was not on the grid sheets. He insisted he was entered in that race.

Being that there was some confusion that weekend and the warm-up lap had just started, I assigned a grid position right there on the spot and let him out to race. I figured it would be prudent to give him 8 free laps rather than deny him a race if it turned out to be our error.

It turned out to be his error and he was removed from the final results.

"So why was he on that other sheet showing lap times" you ask? He was on there because I never even get to see that sheet nor do I need to see it. The final results do not change that sheet and if I recall correctly, that rider crashed out resulting in him only showing up for a few laps. We post that sheet in tech only as a courtesy to the riders.

I'm not certain why I'm even answering your question at this point, but there you have it.

As for your other points of contention, I've already answered you, repeatedly. I'm finished answering your questions now.

Have a nice day.

Quoteand a yard of shimmery blond hair to top it all off.

I think I'm more of a redhead though, very good description of my outfit I must say, as the song goes, sing along with me, "Let's give them something to talk about, Let's give them something to figure out........"

QuoteI believe that was a situation that I handled where I was called to pre-grid because a rider was not on the grid sheets. He insisted he was entered in that race.

Being that there was some confusion that weekend and the warm-up lap had just started, I assigned a grid position right there on the spot and let him out to race. I figured it would be prudent to give him 8 free laps rather than deny him a race if it turned out to be our error.

It turned out to be his error and he was removed from the final results.

"So why was he on that other sheet showing lap times" you ask? He was on there because I never even get to see that sheet nor do I need to see it. The final results do not change that sheet and if I recall correctly, that rider crashed out resulting in him only showing up for a few laps. We post that sheet in tech only as a courtesy to the riders.

I'm not certain why I'm even answering your question at this point, but there you have it.

As for your other points of contention, I've already answered you, repeatedly. I'm finished answering your questions now.

Have a nice day.

Well, Thx Chris.  Not sure I believe it because 7 months later and that story has NEVER be told.

But thx

Quote Check out my fancy new office...
http://www.cbr600rr.com/gallery/office/

Jeff, forget the desk; bring in the bike lift and tool box!  Leave the car and the lawn mower in the garage  ;D

Nice digs!!

   Worthless w/o more pics dug up from some podium posing. If you're not gonna swallow your pride and write the letter of apology because you actually WANT to race, you could at least include some good jokes or links to decent porn in your replies of defense to those 37 people who have you in their sights...  ;D

Quote  Worthless w/o more pics dug up from some podium posing. If you're not gonna swallow your pride and write the letter of apology because you actually WANT to race, you could at least include some good jokes or links to decent porn in your replies of defense to those 37 people who have you in their sights...  ;D

:) innocent bystander smiling nontheless

QuoteI think I'm more of a redhead though,

My wife is a redhead.  I think you might be what they refer to as strawberry blond.  Either way, the entire ensemble' was an attention-getter!
(All comments made in a respectful, non gender-specific, politically correct kind of way, of course!) ::)

QuoteChris (the LRRS one) - Never having met you I think I may learn to hate you for all this  ;D

Awwww.. You're just saying that. Come to Loudon this year so I can give you a reason ;D

TWENTY pages?  

I believe this may be a record for this forum.

I'm not really at liberty to say anything on this topic, but I wanted to post just so I could be part of history.

:)  Congrats RaceMotorcycles.com!

Wait, wasn't the Yellow vs. White thread about 30 pages?

wait just a dang minute........ i wuZ the one who asked if i could bring a sammich to the GNF, and it was a much more legitimate question than anything that dan/VELLA has ever asked.


look up the thread, some good chit on that thread.  ;D


oh, and adam.......... damn dude.

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I would like to welcome all those of you from other race orgs and boards to the unofficial CCS board.

Not that we want to be like the WERA board or anything, but every once in a while it's kinda fun.

And now for the quote I've been saving for 20 pages or so....The big guy himself once said,

"Render unto CCS that which belongs to CCS and unto WERA that which is WERA's.

I'm sooo glad you have him.   ;D    

QuoteAnd now for the quote I've been saving for 20 pages or so....The big guy himself once said,

"Render unto CCS that which belongs to CCS and unto WERA that which is WERA's.

I'm sooo glad you have him.   ;D    

Okay fun is fun but that's just mean!

On the office.  Yeah, Alexa, couldn't have done it without them fancy schmancy nail guns, that's for sure!

Jack, the whole house can't be red...  :P Dining room & living room are already sporting a coat of blood.  This room went with blended Kermit.

And Dave, if I didn't have ample garage space, you'd better believe the bikes & stuff would be in there!  But the floor would have been different then lol...

I think Richard should give away a set of tyrsox for the thousandth reply to this post!  He might have better luck.  LOL...

QuoteI think Richard should give away a set of tyrsox for the thousandth reply to this post!  He might have better luck.  LOL...

Well, here's reply 300.




.... only 700 more to go.

 ;)

Think of the publicity Richard would have if he gave out warmers to Adam & Mongo in exchange for them to provide a link in their signature...  LOL.

QuoteThat's funny. A Honda guy with Kawasaki Green walls.  :P

LOLLOLOLOLLOOLL!

QuoteI've made "Special" brownies back in my misspent youth, but I can't specify the special ingredient.... 8)

i though that was special sauce...


Suzy, where's that link of yours?

696 to go... ;) ;D

You said sixty-nine...

(well part of it...)

QuoteYou said sixty-nine...

(well part of it...)

Men... ::) ;) ;D

Are we there yet?  Are we there YET? :P :P

Heres reply 308. How far this thing gonna go!  :o

QuoteAre we there yet?  Are we there YET? :P :P

No!

Now sit down and be quiet back there!  We'll get there, when we get there!

 ;D

Still hating Adam!  ;D

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QuoteMen... ::) ;) ;D

Women...   :-X 8) :o

dogs... :P :-/ ;) ;D

Quotedogs... :P :-/ ;) ;D

I like dogs.....












.... they don't talk back and are satisfied with just a scratch behind the ears.  LOL!

 ;D

Quote.... they don't talk back and are satisfied with just a scratch behind the ears.  LOL!

 ;D

So do husbands...

















If you train 'em right.
 :o :o :o :o :o ;) ;D

QuoteSo do husbands...

I don't care if you do scratch me behind my ears, I'm not poopin outside...even if you throw the remote out the door and tell me to "fetch"

QuoteI don't care if you do scratch me behind my ears, I'm not poopin outside...even if you throw the remote out the door and tell me to "fetch"

Waaaaa haaaa haaaa haaaaa.........


 ;D

QuoteI don't care if you do scratch me behind my ears, I'm not poopin outside...even if you throw the remote out the door and tell me to "fetch"

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

How 'bout for tire money? :o

Quote;D ;D ;D ;D

How 'bout for tire money? :o

Would you like it in patterns or just random piles?

QuoteWould you like it in patterns or just random piles?

I'll let you know... ;D

Oh geez, this place is back to its regularly-scheduled riveting programming.   :)

QuoteOh geez, this place is back to its regularly-scheduled riveting programming.   :)

Well yeah. People who actually know the real story posted so Adam has run away to hide  ;D

QuoteWell yeah. People who actually know the real story posted so Adam has run away to hide  ;D

Oh don't get him going again....


 ;)

I took him off your hands for a few ;)

QuoteWell yeah. People who actually know the real story posted so Adam has run away to hide  ;D

I wasn't hiding, just didn't think brownie and spice info had anything for me to add.

[quote  
How 'bout for tire money? :o[/quote]


  Barter leather work for lapdance?   ::)

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QuoteBarter leather work for lapdance?   ::)

That sounds like you get the better end of the deal.  ::) ;D

Geez, guys...always thinkin' with their... :o




























 ;D ;D ;D

QuoteThat sounds like you get the better end of the deal.  ::) ;D

Geez, guys...always thinkin' with their... :o


  Well, if you wanna GIVE the lapdance AND do the leatherwork?! Wait, how bout a leather lapdance session and we'll just work something out later? 8) :o



(I still need directions to your new digs)




























 ;D ;D ;D

I cannot believe that this post has went on for 22 pages and nobody has asked the most important question.  Where can I buy one of those T-shirts?  They would make great Wegmann auction fodder!

Would anyone like to start a pool as to how many races it takes before Adam's license is revoked.  Maybe race events is too long of a time period, it might need to be how many hours into the first event.

QuoteI was charged back in December for my license renewal, but today I see a reversal crediting it back.

What gives?

  I sent in a check and got a license in the mail today! Funny how that works. Anyone else?

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=24917

I'm pretty sure Adam had something to do with this. I mean, given all his inside AMA connections and everything.

Ok it's a shameless attempt to keep this thing going. I'm bored  ;D

Quotehttp://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=24917

I'm pretty sure Adam had something to do with this. I mean, given all his inside AMA connections and everything.

Ok it's a shameless attempt to keep this thing going. I'm bored  ;D

Excuse me, do I even know you?

Refund, I got charged double.

I got the buy one, get two free and your money back deal. ::)

QuoteExcuse me, do I even know you?

Adam - read what was written.

QuoteOk it's a shameless attempt to keep this thing going. I'm bored  ;D

This is why the masses are annoyed by you sometimes.  ;)  















Relax Adam. I'm just funnin' whit ya!  ;D

QuoteAdam - read what was written.

This is why the masses are annoyed by you sometimes.  ;)  

Relax Adam. I'm just funnin' whit ya!  ;D

And another guy who likes to ride my cock who hasn't a clue who I am either.

QuoteAnd another guy who likes to ride my cock who hasn't a clue who I am either.

You know, I was joking around but once again you prove to be a total tool. Get a clue dude. You make a point of making sure everyone with an internet connection and logon to a motorcycle forum knows exactly who you are and what you are about. Don't get so pissy when people take notice and comment.

QuoteAnd another guy who likes to ride my cock who hasn't a clue who I am either.

For years I've known of and about you.  :'(

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QuoteFor years I've known of and about you.  :'(

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right, and you're so inventive to steal someone elses chop?   ::)

Inventive yes! It saves time Adam.

Where I stole it from. http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100104&perpage=20&pagenumber=2

After 23 pages, this thread has finally redeemed itself.

BROKEBACKMARKERS!

 :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
Call 911!  I can't breathe!

Quoteright, and you're so inventive to steal someone elses chop?   ::)

OMG. You did NOT just complain about someone using someone elses content. WERA Suzuki cup vids ring any bells? Pot this is kettle, come in kettle.

QuoteOMG. You did NOT just complain about someone using someone elses content. WERA Suzuki cup vids ring any bells? Pot this is kettle, come in kettle.

yes, i did.  what--people aren't allowed to change their opinions about something?  

At least you put a name to your posts, unlike Mr mike Anonymous rbm

QuoteAt least you put a name to your posts, unlike Mr mike Anonymous rbm

Hey genius Adam - it's the internet. The majority of people on the interent are anonymous. Or full of cr@p. I'll continue to be anonymous and you continue to be full of cr@p!

Agreed?!?!!  :-*

Sounds like chicken shit to me.

QuoteAfter 23 pages, this thread has finally redeemed itself.
 
BROKEBACKMARKERS!

That sheeot was damn funny K3!!

Looks like he's moved on to BROKEBACK CHICKENFARMING now tho......

ROFL!!!

Ok now this thread is getting downright hilarious.  This calls for the ROFL COPTER.

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QuoteROFL!!!

Ok now this thread is getting downright hilarious.  This calls for the ROFL COPTER.

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Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout! Old school Macros!

Alexa,
please do not make any food references and ruin the mood set.

Hang on Hoebiz, help is on the way.

QuoteAlexa,
please do not make any food references and ruin the mood set.

Hang on Hoebiz, help is on the way.

Macros, not macaroons!   :P


























Mmmmmm...macarooonsssss..... ;D

Please!  I'm on a diet here!  Must be thinner than Cook!  Must be....

QuoteFor years I've known of and about you.  :'(

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OMG! That's too funny!

QuoteAfter 23 pages, this thread has finally redeemed itself.

BROKEBACKMARKERS! :-X :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
Call 911!  I can't breathe!

Great posts ya'll!!!

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