Lone Wolf Cycles has another racebike to lease!
Are you a racer (no age restrictions), who has found the expense of maintaining a competitive racebike, travel and registration fees, limit the amount of race weekends you attend?
How would you like to attend the WERA National Challenge Series?
Lone Wolf Cycles is looking to help a racer with promise and give them the oppurtunity to compete on the national circuit and have the support of being within a team structure.
Lone Wolf Cycles will supply:
1)2004 Kawasaki 600cc racebike with plenty of spares, we will maintain the bike
2) Discounted prices on Bridgestone Tires
2a) Endurance racetire takeoffs free
3) The oppurtunity to work with Lone Wolf Cycles Endurance Team.
4) The possibility to be a backup rider for the Lone Wolf Cycles Endurance Team.
5) Tune & Testing help during events.
6)When logistically feasible, we defer transportation costs and get you to the track.
7) Lone Wolf Cycles will transport the racebike to all events.
8) Lone Wolf Cycles will provide the racebike to the rider at 10 events during the 2006 season.
9) Lone Wolf Cycles will have food and drink at the track for entire team.
There are 2 requirements:
1) $3500 lease fee
2) The rider is part of the pit crew for Endurance events.
You have questions I am sure, so maybe these points will help you out.
1) In the event of crashing the above mentioned racebike. The rider will pay for replacement of the parts damaged. If the parts can be repaired and pass WERA Tech Inspection, then the rider will not pay for replacement. The rider may replace the parts on his/her own or pay exactly what Lone Wolf Cycles pays to replace them.
2) Internal engine failures will NOT be charged to the rider.
3) The rider will pay for his own race entry fees, gate fees, race license fees, fuel for the racebike, transponder rental or purchase fees, transportation to events, meals away from track and lodging.
4) In the event of the rider crashing the above mentioned racebike at any point during the season and from that crash the racebike is unrepairable, no longer able to compete in a WERA sanctioned event, Lone Wolf Cycles retains the entire lease fee of $3500.
5) Both rider and Lone Wolf Cycles will sign and notarize a written agreement.
6) If Lone Wolf Cycles is unable to provide the racebike for any of the 2006 WERA National events, the rider will be credited with $350.
7) Any contingency won by the rider, will be his to keep 100%.
You can email resumes/interest to Lonewolfcycles@optonline.net
or PM me, thank you.
This is such a sweet deal...
If you guys came to the midwest, I'd be on it in a second.
Think. $3500. If I go back through my records, I'd bet I spend close to that in basic consumables like oil, filters, brake pads, brake fluid, clutches, grips, gearing, chains...
LW, you're doing a good thing here...
$3500!
Man I would almost* be willing to pay that for someone to tranport a bike all season for me!
Seariosly, that sounds like a great oppertunity for someone.
*Almost (lack of funds makes that comment null and void ;D )
XIII
Jeff,
Where in the Midwest? Technically speaking I guess
Grattan, Autobahn, Nelson Ledges are not inclusive.
We are doing the entire WERA Nationals plus some regionals.... Nashville, Summit, VIR (I think).
I believe I am offering a fair deal, the tough part is not the interest, it's getting a rider to financially commit and pay the money.
Two of my riders are from the Midwest.. Jeff Permanian and Anthony Popp will be riding for LWC in 2006.
Jeff you have a newer 600 though don't you?
Or the thought of selling it and riding a Kaw with extra cash in the bank is an appealing thought hmm?
Let's put it this way, if you don't have to transport a bike and gear, you just fly into the events or when it isn't possible due to an airport not being close to the track, then fly into the airport 20 minutes from my place and go that way. Southwest flys into our airport. If you add it up, it is no more expensive then driving, considering gas. Last season my teammate Fred Bittner took the bike and trailer to Barber and I flew into Birmingham and took a taxi to the hotel, it was great, wish I could do it again!
;D
I don't really see the deal...
You pay for the tires...
You pay for the parts if you crash it...
You pay for the race entries...
It looks like you have to work for nothing for endurance..but essentially they are paying for help with the race bike kawasaki...
and at the end of the year...they have no bike?
What makes this such a great deal that instead of paying $5.5-6k for the bike itself that you get a bike to keep at the end of the year, they should just lease your bike...just curious is all
The only way i can see someone coming out ahead is if you throw the bike down and total it at somepoint during the season...so instead of the normal 6k you'd of paid..you pay only the original lease fee of $3500
QuoteI don't really see the deal...
Ever buy, prep and *maintain* a race bike for an entire season? $3500 doesn't cover the money you'd spend/lose in that process...
LW, I'm in the midwest, and do run an 05 CBR600RR. Your program is awesome but wouldn't necessarily work with the setup I have with sponsors, family and whatnot.
I could fly to/from the events, etc. But the wife would get pretty ticked that she wasn't going and that the RV we bought to transport it all would be sitting in the backyard collecting dust.
QuoteEver buy, prep and *maintain* a race bike for an entire season? $3500 doesn't cover the money you'd spend/lose in that process...
LW, I'm in the midwest, and do run an 05 CBR600RR. Your program is awesome but wouldn't necessarily work with the setup I have with sponsors, family and whatnot.
I could fly to/from the events, etc. But the wife would get pretty ticked that she wasn't going and that the RV we bought to transport it all would be sitting in the backyard collecting dust.
I've raced for a while now, and am familiar with the costs involved...
You have 2 scenarios...
A) You lease a bike for $3500...you pay for tires/parts/transporation/entry, pretty much everything but food at the track, but you still have to work for them without really making anything (i wouldn't mind doing that and being apart of a team)...you also can have them maintain you bike (IMO, that's the best part, especially for newbies who do it for learning about working on bikes so it would be a great learning experience)...I don't know how much of a discount you can get on bridgestones...if you join their program, you get a discount anyways...i used to get slicks for $275/set
The positives:
1) help and lots of mechanical knowledge to be gained from working with a team - especially for newbies
2) if you total the bike, it's $3500 out the window instead of $6k you would have paid
The negatives:
1) It's not your bike...you give it up at the end of the year no matter what...
2) I'm not sure about the policy towards keeping the bike and giving it back at the end of the race weekend...but if lone wolf keeps it, you can't do track days, etc on them unless lone wolf says otherwise?
I just don't get why someone who wants to race doesn't get something like a lw bike or vintage bike for 2-3k, and keep it for themselves...you have something to show for your racing at the end of the year, and if you turned around and sold it...you'd get to get some of your money back...for instance...if you bought the bike at 6k, raced for one season...you could probably get at least 4500 out of it if you sold it at the end of the season...probably more...so why pay an extra 2000 for a lease?
tengonada,
Ok in your scenario you purchased a bike for $6000
how many spares do you think you going to get with that? Do you have extra bodywork, 3 sets of rims with rotors and cush drives, extra exhaust canisters, midpipes, subframe, 2 front sprockets, 5 rear sprockets, 2 of each lever, extra rear shock springs...
The list is even bigger, have to get going now...to be continued.....
I'm sure it would come with some of the basic stuff...not quite as extenstive as your list i'm sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that whether or not the stuff comes from you, the rider still has to pay, right? If trackside is there...you can generally get a lot of the stuff you are talking about...
If i were you i'd push it more towards newbies...i *wish* i'd had a "mentor" for mechanical stuff at the track when i was starting out...I could see your idea going over well with them...I think older racers would prefer to have a bike at the end of the season though...just my $.02
i will use an example from last season's endurance team, my teammate FastFreddie crashed at Barber and renderd a set of bodywork useless, I took only $100 out of his crash allocation fund and gave him the rest of his money back, so I am not doing this to rip anyone off.
Also, if a rider has a getoff I have so many parts (spares) that he won't be going home early. I mean do I need to list all of the spares I have? let's put it this way I have 3 sets of rims for this bike. One set is dedicated to full wets, so there is no scrambling around changing tires off rims...
As far as working with the endurance pit crew, you are not going to be asked to be at our beckon call 24/7.
Yes this program is more geared toward someone who is looking to step up to the next level, but does not have all the resources and does not want to risk financial destitude thru overuse of credit cars to finance a solid season of racing.
QUOTE:
4) In the event of the rider crashing the above mentioned racebike at any point during the season and from that crash the racebike is unrepairable, no longer able to compete in a WERA sanctioned event, Lone Wolf Cycles retains the entire lease fee of $3500.
What happens to the $3500 lease fee at the end of the season if the rider *didn't* total the bike?
Tshort, the lease fee is the cost of using the bike, spares etc.. If you look at it in the sense of 10 rounds, you are paying $350 per round to race the bike, have all the other equipment at your disposal.
To clear up a point, if you crash and say, bend a rim, you will not be charged, you will only be charged for replacement if there are no further spares. So after the second front rim you would be pay for one replacement.
ALL POINTS WILL BE IN A WRITTEN CONTRACT, THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AND AGREED UPON.
This gives both sides assurances.
For what it's worth, and for comparison.... Back in the mid to late eighties I worked for an SCCA race outfit that did this type of thing...
If we took _your_ car to the track it was $500 per race weekend plus mileage. That got you transport and a dedicated crew. Crash repair was extra, parts and labor, driver responsible for all fees, tires, fuel, meals, etc.
If you rented our Sports Renault the rental was $1200 - $1500 per race weekend with a $2500 crash deposit. Driver schools were 1/2 price, but the above conditions applied. Transport and crew included, mileage applied, and the additional caveat that if you buzzed the motor (tattle tail tach...) you paid for a rebuild...
We had 3 'rental' cars and they were booked for every event we went to...
Keep in mind, these were the charges for 1/one/uno weekend... Now back to our program already in progress...
To make it more clear, I am not renting the bike on a per weekend basis. I am looking for someone who wants to commit to doing the full schedule, if someone can do 8 of 10 rounds, that ok too, but this program is not a weekend to weeknd arrangement.
QuoteI don't really see the deal...
You pay for the tires...
You pay for the parts if you crash it...
You pay for the race entries...
It looks like you have to work for nothing for endurance..but essentially they are paying for help with the race bike kawasaki...
and at the end of the year...they have no bike?
What makes this such a great deal that instead of paying $5.5-6k for the bike itself that you get a bike to keep at the end of the year...
If you have in fact raced with any seriousness you would know that a properly prepared racebike will cost you at least 8k in mods and that's not even including the price of the new bike (which is more than this mythical 6k...) Dave is doing a good thing and I hope it works out for someone. Hell, it helped me when I raced for him last year. I started kicking everyone's a$$ and qualified in my first attempt at an AMA National! The logic is easy to see and it also helps fund his Endurance effort for '06. It's a no-brainer for both parties involved. Good luck Dave!
I'd say a good 600 to really go ride fast is going to set a rider back $12k.
As for older or younger riders...
Hey, if this program doesn't look good to you, it's not for you. However, some factory riders have paid, or have had sponsors that did so, for their rides. If there's no value in this for you, I wouldn't recommend buying it. However, if you see value in the program, then it's in your interest to look at it.
QuoteTshort, the lease fee is the cost of using the bike, spares etc.. If you look at it in the sense of 10 rounds, you are paying $350 per round to race the bike, have all the other equipment at your disposal.
To clear up a point, if you crash and say, bend a rim, you will not be charged, you will only be charged for replacement if there are no further spares. So after the second front rim you would be pay for one replacement.
ALL POINTS WILL BE IN A WRITTEN CONTRACT, THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AND AGREED UPON.
This gives both sides assurances.
Aight....that makes the deal much better :)
Hey Scott! Hope you had a good new year and a smooth move to the Southwest. Scott (Wvracer97)
rode great for our endurance effort last year, which I have to admit was not as organised in the beginning as I had hoped, I learned a great deal from last season. With this knowledge I am able to offer a solid, organised plan this season.
Of course the rider in this plan does not have to share equipment with 2 other riders like the endurance team members have to, this makes setup a lot less of a compromise.
And for you skeptics, no I did not pay WVracer to post a positive word about what I am doing. Scott really stepped up last season and it showed in his solid results at the AMA VIR round. ;D
Hey Lonewolf, e me!
racerk3@sbcglobal.net
You know Dave... the Miller Motorsports round is AWFULLY close to where I'm now at, and it's the weekend before my AMA round there... HMMMMM?! ;)
Scott, I noticed, right now the team is set, it is a long season and maybe will call upon your riding at Miller. Either way, good luck this season, see you at Miller!