So, if you were to order a custom set of leathers, would you prefer to have a removable liner, or would it be better to have no liner but a shirt and pants garment combination (2 pieces) to wear under the leathers?
Being a big guy, I've had real issues with suit liners. Currently, I wear an RS Tiachi one-piece liner, and then slip into what's left of the liner in my Vanson suit. The suit's shoulder armor always flops, and I find myself having to unzip the Vanson's liner to adjust the shoulder armor once I get into the suit. I would think that if the hard armor were very securely attached into the leathers, and the foam padding were incorporated into a wearable liner, this would probably make for the best combination. In addition, a bit of light foam or perhaps flannel in the elbows and knees to keep the armor ffrom biting into the skin would be a welcome touch. Now if the leathers also came with a top-notch back protector firmly attached inside the suit that wouldn't shift around when I try to pull everything up over my shoulders, I'd be in heaven!
Tidy whities or boxers? ;D
I love the two front zipper Vanson. It's easy to get into and out off, but the liner's not removable. I'd prefer a removable liner so I could wash it.
Under that I wear a one piece liner. (Kushitani, because it was the only one I could find at the time). This set up works very well because no matter how hot I get the leathers slide off easily. I'd think a 2 piece liner would twist and bunch up as the suit is pulled on. My prior Vansons were a one front zipper. Without the separate one-piece liner, on a hot day they stuck like glue.
The censor engine turned K-u-s-h-i-t-a-n-i- into Kunutsani??? That's a new one. What part of the anatomy or weird act would K-u-s-h-i-t-a-n-i refer to??
Crap, there's probably something else out there that I've missed! ;D
i have a barnacle bills suit that he used about 4 cows worth of leather to make for me. i also use an undersuit as well. the other thing is that i sent him my tecnic back protector and he attached it into the back of my suit but made it so that i could remove it if i wanted to. that is sooo nice. i wouldnt trade that suit for anything.
QuoteThe censor engine turned K-u-s-h-i-t-a-n-i- into Kunutsani??? That's a new one. What part of the anatomy or weird act would K-u-s-h-i-t-a-n-i refer to??
Crap, there's probably something else out there that I've missed! ;D
Right in the middle is the evil word sh1t. The censor always turns sh1t into shit.
I bet you always find Waldo. :)
I have the kushi inner suit as well, but also HIGHLY desire a suit liner.
However, the suit liner must:
ZIP in, not velcro in for the main opening.
Have GOOD velcro around the ankles/wrists
Have AMPLE openings for ankles/wrists
Zip INTO the suit, not a separate closure that you have to zip.
The biggest complaint/problem I have with suit liners is them not staying put as I put on and take off my leathers. Fieldsheer does it RIGHT. Alexa, you know my thoughts on this already since you've repaired everything I own. If you want to see what I'm talking about, let me know and I'll bring by 2 sets, one good, one bad...
Thanks guys, keep the ideas coming. ;)
Here in the Great SW (arizona), the liners tend to stick to the body when putting on or taking off. I prefer a suit w/o the liner, as I wear the necessary shirt and padded shorts anyway... My $0.02worth.
Definitely the removable liner is a great thing. Our RS Taichi suits all have removable liners, then we wear Mawus inner suits. The Mawus suit slides against the removeable inner suit and provides exceptional movement with no sticking. Makes transitioning on the bike much easier.
QuoteDefinitely the removable liner is a great thing. Our RS Taichi suits all have removable liners, then we wear Mawus inner suits. The Mawus suit slides against the removeable inner suit and provides exceptional movement with no sticking. Makes transitioning on the bike much easier.
Sounds like a great setup... :)
QuoteDefinitely the removable liner is a great thing. Our RS Taichi suits all have removable liners, then we wear Mawus inner suits. The Mawus suit slides against the removeable inner suit and provides exceptional movement with no sticking. Makes transitioning on the bike much easier.
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Yep, I ordered my RS Taichi's from Rob at LM, along with my Mawus Suit (or Smurf Suit) and they are awesome...
I have no issues getting in or out of my leathers and it is really nice to be able to wash both the Smurf Suit and the inside Liner...
In addition to the Quality of the Suit's Liner the suit it's self is very flexable, crashes well, and is very very breathable.
My next suit with be another Taichi w/o hesitation 8)
Attached liner for me.
I'll wear cycling shorts and a work out top under the liner to remove moisture and get me out quick.
There isn't a way to have a better moisture removing system other than having the product against your body. It works well in summer and winter weather regardless keeping one more comfortable.
As for cleaning liners. Well, you clean the liner, that's fine.
Still doesn't clean the leather suit. That's a lot of mass to carry body salts and odor. A lot more than the liner ever will hold.
I'm a big fan of UnderArmour as a liner- cheaper than the fancy-dancy Kushi stuff and works better.
If I had to make a complaint about any leathers I've owned, it would definitely be the non-removeabe liner, or one with openings in stupid places (Hello, Vanson? How the freak am I supposed to adjust knee armor through a 12-inch zipper above my butt?)
It's actually quite easy. Open the zipper, reach down toward the knee inside the suit, grab the liner in a fist and move it away from the armor. Grab the armor with that same hand and pull it off the heavy velcro and readjust it, remove it, what ever.
You left out a few steps, like:
-put suit on.
-guess where armor should be
-take suit off
-reach inside liner and move armor to where you guess it should be
-hope like hell you lined up the little velcro strips
-put suit on
-repeat
;D