Does anyone have any pics/video of Mark Sorensen's bike on fire at Barber? It happened coming out of turn 3 on Saturday. He is fine, but is looking for some pics for posperity.
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I was in the race, but did not see anything, glad he is OK
This is what I saw from the pits.
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Glad to hear that he is fine. That was a nasty spill. We were watching from the tower and saw him tumbling and then the bike on fire. It seemed to take forever for the corner workers to get to the bike to put the flames out. We thought for sure that the bike was going to blow. I am sure that somebody will show up with pictures, it was the talk of the pits.
ouch!!! what caused that..Did the motor let go? :o
Quoteouch!!! what caused that..Did the motor let go? :o
why? did Edgar build it? ;D
No, I did not build this motor.... ;D
Actually, he lost the front trying to go around the outside of someone coming up the hill.
I was in that race also. About 6 of us crested the hill in a bunch. I thought for sure someone was going to T-bone it. By the time we turned back towards pit out, the smoke was a hundred feet in the air! :o Glad to hear he is OK.
I'm that someone. We were going back and forth for 4 laps. It was a good time until we were side by side coming thru turn 2 .We were both hard on the throttle. It looked like he had the mother of all tank slappers. Then I lost site of him. I hope he's OK.
I spent 7 hours in the hospital for basically nothing. I tried leaving the ambulance in the pits, but got light headed so they checking my blood pressure, and it was low so off to the hospital I went. (I guess after Pridmore they're not chancing it as much.) I think my insurance co-pay will be the pricest part of the crash.
Only the top of the bike caught on fire, so i just need a new tank, seat, body work and some front end stuff and should be good. That fire extinguisher powder it horrible though. I washed the bike twice last night and this morning stuff was rusting on it anyway. I basically WD40'ed the whole bike now...anyone else know how to stop the oxidizing at this point?
Anyway, my Scott's steering dampener sheared off and punctured the tank. My front broke loose and then I somehow ended up in a tank slapper. How far from the bike did I end up? I didn't even know the bike was on fire until the ambulance driver asked me if I wanted to see a picture of my bike on fire (his photo was so far away you couldn't see anything)
I'm bruised and road rashed, but nothing broken.
#4 Ducati--you surprised me on that inside line, I thought I was clear of you but I guess not. I see you caused the next red flag. What happened there?
As far as I can tell from talking to the riders behind me. We went three wide into turn one,me in the middle. # 64 turned in on me, we came together and at that same moment #283 hit us from behind.
I think I got the worst of it. 3 broken ribs & a trashed bike. I maybe done for the year. 283 finished the race,64 didn't. My wife spoke to him and he appeared to be ok.Im not blaming anyone, with only 4 laps nobody was willing to back off. That's racing! I hope there's no animosity between us.
Guys,
I was in the race and it was nuts as it was re started twice. Racing or not people took chances that did not need to be taken. Each time we re started it seemed that people made poorer choices. I guess from the heat. I got lucky and finshed the race in second place.
Michael
Am 127
Thumper that sucks. Barber turn 1 is a bad deal for the LW class it seems. Wasn't there a pile up last year in turn one? Did they take you to the hospital? They coulda made us roommates. You probably got out of the trip to the hospital, wish I wouldn't have gone. Sorry to hear your season is over, but I think mine is too.
Anybody with photos of any of these crashes?
And Diablo, yes this is supposed to be the class where we remember we all have to work on Monday.
I didn't go till I got home.Spent all day mon. getting tested. Just 3 badly broken ribs. I'm rather lucky said the Dr. .She said she's seen worse injuries when people fall from ladders like I did. There was a pile-up last year that I narrowly escaped. I always concidered the LtWt classes more mellow. It seem's over the years with number of entry's increasing that so has the level of competition.
the lightweight classes has become one of the most competitive classes out there.The buels dont blow up as much as they use to and the fuel injected sv's are making decent power also.I think there is more elbowing and bumping going on than in the heavyweight classes.....it just sucks that somtimes these pile ups happen..If I was there I think I could have been caught up in that mess..The #64 bike was a friend of mine so I hope he is ok also :-/
Hey Kevin...that's one fast ladder! ::)
hope you feel better soon!
Thanks Paul .....Maybe for VIR??????
hope to see you there!
In my 2 visits to Barber I've noticed that nobody (mostly SE guys) cares if someone allready has the race line into turn 1. They just keep pushing in until they make room or someone crashes. I hope they got good results and were awarded big contracts for next season. As for me, I have a regular job, a family to support and do this for fun. :(
I am with you on that 8)
I just checked the results. It seems #64 was in only one race all weekend. Why bother?
Sorry ! upon further review i found him in thunderbike also. I was on rains w/bent rotors. What was i thinking :-[
QuoteIn my 2 visits to Barber I've noticed that nobody (mostly SE guys) cares if someone allready has the race line into turn 1. They just keep pushing in until they make room or someone crashes. I hope they got good results and were awarded big contracts for next season. As for me, I have a regular job, a family to support and do this for fun. :(
Hey man it aint the SE guys, its the midatlantic guys!
I have a brand new tank in my storage locker. I could get it to Edgar in MN pretty quick.
call me or email
847-815-9449
dman01@ameritech.net
QuoteHey man it aint the SE guys, its the midatlantic guys!
;D ;D
QuoteIn my 2 visits to Barber I've noticed that nobody (mostly SE guys) cares if someone allready has the race line into turn 1. They just keep pushing in until they make room or someone crashes. I hope they got good results and were awarded big contracts for next season. As for me, I have a regular job, a family to support and do this for fun. :(
Kevin,
Kinda reminds me of some comments I heard last year at Blackhawk (the weekend that AMA was rained out at VIR). There were some guys there from Kentucky that a number of people commented about their similar riding style.
Must come from watchin' too much NASCAR in that part of the country! :o (Bet I'm gonna hear about this one!)
QuoteMust come from watchin' too much NASCAR in that part of the country! :o (Bet I'm gonna hear about this one!)
I hear there is a push to make bump drafiting legal at Daytona next year!! ;D
QuoteKevin,
Kinda reminds me of some comments I heard last year at Blackhawk (the weekend that AMA was rained out at VIR). There were some guys there from Kentucky that a number of people commented about their similar riding style.
Must come from watchin' too much NASCAR in that part of the country! :o (Bet I'm gonna hear about this one!)
Not naming names, but that would've been Brandon Parish. ;)
Johnny, tell our winner what's behind the curtain!
I was up on the top deck to watch and snap pics because my buddy (710 exp, SV SB) was in his first CCS race ever. he has raced with WERA for years. anyway, at about the same time that I snapped these pics, someone rammed into my buddy up the inside of T11 right at the apex. he said he was practically on the curbing and never saw the guy until impact. he said it was the hardest by far that he had ever been hit. he went over the high-side and tumbled across T12, up the hill and onto the grass and stopped short of the tire wall. somehow, he walked away essentially unhurt except for a smashed little-finger. his SV was busted up pretty bad, though. my thinking on passing up the inside in T11 is that you better damn sure know that you've got room. any collision there can be deadly. if you stay on the bike after a hit in T11 and run straight off through 12 onto the grass, it is highly probable that you are going to hit the tire wall: there's no gravel trap there to slow you down. in my buddy's case, he was probably fortunate that he fell onto the track first.
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QuoteIn my 2 visits to Barber I've noticed that nobody (mostly SE guys) cares if someone allready has the race line into turn 1. They just keep pushing in until they make room or someone crashes. I hope they got good results and were awarded big contracts for next season. As for me, I have a regular job, a family to support and do this for fun. :(
Must be gettin' bad. I heard some people talking about dumping their SV's to go back to 600's. Said MW isn't as cut throat as LW! ;D
;D
I'm so glad you got a picture of my bike on fire, Mitorad! Thank you! All I had was those burnt aftermath photos. -If your bike is gonna burn, you might as well have a picture of the bonfire.
I think it's just something about how great of a track Barber is that brings out all the crazy, bad racing.
Mark, I thought we were racing cleanly? Except for your surprise to see me,I held that line all the through turn 2 & 3.
QuoteI think it's just something about how great of a track Barber is that brings out all the crazy, bad racing.
Dude, I wasn't refering to you or us with that comment. That was just a general comment to this whole thread about people getting crazy in the LW class. No, I've never said my crash was your fault...you got the good line thru the turn, I wasn't willing to let of the throttle and I lost it. I have no hard feeling at all.
Who is Mitorad? Can I get your name and permission to run your photo on the crash page of RRW? Can you e-mail me? Edgar and my buddy works at RRW and wants to put it on the Crash Page. E-mail me at
info@AmericanRoadracer.com if you can.
Mark,
I sent you a PM yesterday with my email address if you wanted additional pics. I'll send you an email now.
Lee
Glad you are ok, Mark. Should stick to the tracks up north. ;D
Yeah, two crashes down here in two weekends matches my whole first four years racing. Get me back to BIR and BHF!
QuoteIn my 2 visits to Barber I've noticed that nobody (mostly SE guys) cares if someone allready has the race line into turn 1. They just keep pushing in until they make room or someone crashes. I hope they got good results and were awarded big contracts for next season. As for me, I have a regular job, a family to support and do this for fun. :(
I'm with you on that one Kev.
During practice on my first lap AM #841 passed me so tight that he hit my bars and sent me into a nasty tank slapper that I was lucky to save.
During the Thunderbike race right after the 4th lap the same guy rear ended me in the coaster, taking us both out. Since my bike was on the track and his was in the gravel trap I was cited as the cause of the red flag. I was in third prior to him hitting me, and I ended up in 11th due to the penalty - he took my 3rd.
That aside, he blamed the crash on me saying that I was going too slow in that turn and he didn't expect me to go over the rumble strip the way he does. He also blamed in on my lack of experience at that track - although I have been there for three events and a total of seven days.
I don't know that its a certain region that is more aggressive....last year I don't remember anything like this, however it appeared that there were no hold bared this year.
Hey Mark, I have a real nice set of injectors if you need them!
Glad you're OK. From now on, leave the crashing to Edgar....