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Racing Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: TiffineyIngram on July 21, 2005, 08:17:38 AM

Title: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: TiffineyIngram on July 21, 2005, 08:17:38 AM
Alrighty, for those of you that hate suspense, here's what matters most:

1--You must use the official Daytona pre-entry form to enter the Race of Champions.  No exceptions, don't even ask.

2--The official Daytona pre-entry form will be enclosed in the Daytona mailer, which is going to the printer tomorrow.  You should have it in your mailbox around the second week of August (give or take for production).

3--Campsites will be available for rent through the speedway.

4--We do not have word on the garage situation yet, but I'll keep you posted.

5--Remember, griding is based upon points, but for PRE-ENTERED riders ONLY.  If you post-enter, your grid will be based on order of entry.  No exceptions.

6--The points cut-off AND the pre-entry deadline is MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 26th.  Whatever is in our office by 9am will be what is accepted.  Entries received after 9am are too late and will be returned.

If you have any other questions, I'll try to answer them as best I can.  Thank you for your attention, and good luck!
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on July 21, 2005, 10:19:07 AM
Excellent post Tiff!

That's the way to anticipate the same questions that pop up every season around this time. :)
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: CCS243 on July 21, 2005, 02:31:41 PM
Inquiring minds want to know if it is a 3 or 4 day event!  :-/
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Stone on July 21, 2005, 04:24:39 PM
Is griding based upon "total" points or points in that particular class that you race?
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: rotoboge on July 21, 2005, 09:21:26 PM
When are pre-enties being accepted?
Thanks! ;)
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: gsxr_rcr on July 22, 2005, 12:33:00 AM
Quote6--The points cut-off AND the pre-entry deadline is MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 23rd.  Whatever is in our office by 9am will be what is accepted.  After 9:01am, entries are too late and will be returned.

If you have any other questions, I'll try to answer them as best I can.  Thank you for your attention, and good luck!

Ok Tiff I have a very major question for you about the cut of date and time.  I under stand it is 9:00 am but on MONDAY the 23rd, ok who came up with that.  I assume you are talking 2005 and the 23rd of September is a FRIDAY!!!!!!

So when is the real cut off date????????

Dont hold out on us now we will be waiting.

Also if registration closes on monday if their is a race the prior sat/sun, will those points be counted for the grid postions??

I know its a typo im sure but figured I'd give you a hard time.

Whats really funny is that this thread was read 218 times and I was the first to catch it.
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: TiffineyIngram on July 22, 2005, 07:29:06 AM
To answer your questions in order:

The weekend will be a 3 day event, just like the spring race.  I'm sorry, but that's the schedule we have to work with.

Griding is based on your points in EACH class.  For example, if you're 1st in Middleweight Superbike, you'll be on the front row with everyone else that's first in their region.  If you're 5th, you'll be with all of the people that are also in 5th.

Pre-entries will not be accepted until the official mailer goes out.  You should have it by mid-August.

Sorry about the cut-off snafu.  The cut-off date will be 9am Monday morning, the 26th.  9 am, no exceptions.  You can enter if you'll be at a race the previous weekend, and the points that you earn on the Sept 24-25 races WILL count towards the points calculations.

And I forgot, the ROC BANQUET is scheduled for Sunday, October 23rd at 7:30pm.  Attire is 'dress to impress'.  As usual, I've arranged for yummy snacks and cash bars.  Hope to see everyone there!
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Clarkie49 on July 22, 2005, 09:10:01 AM
Thanks for the heads up on the info.

Question 1 - If you have 5 people that have all won their respective area class and all pre-enter how is it decided which riders get which grid positions?

Order of entry received?  Alphabetical?

Question 2 - I am assuming there is a Promoter practice on Thursday, is it Team Hammer?  Is there a Wednesday practice as well?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2005, 11:00:26 AM
Fuel to get there:$844.00
Camping:$525.00
Gate Fee:$100.00
Food:$500.00
Entries:$400.00 (est)
Tires:$1035.00
Race fuel:$80.00 (pump gas)

Rough total:$3484.00

Yikes.  I'll pass...
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Fat_Nate on July 22, 2005, 12:39:01 PM
QuoteFuel to get there:$844.00
Camping:$525.00
Gate Fee:$100.00
Food:$500.00
Entries:$400.00 (est)
Tires:$1035.00
Race fuel:$80.00 (pump gas)

Rough total:$3484.00

Yikes.  I'll pass...

It's one thing to have the heart of a champion, but the WALLET of a champion is a different thing altogether.
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: rotoboge on July 22, 2005, 12:50:22 PM
QuoteRough total:$3484.00

Very interesting... Thanks!
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2005, 01:13:34 PM
QuoteVery interesting... Thanks!

And the sick thing about it is that you KNOW that this figure is low...  Doesn't account for any other consumables (oil, brake pads, gearing, etc).

But hey, who said racing was cheap eh?

On average, a 3 race weekend works out to be about $1800-$2k anyhow.
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Protein Filled on July 22, 2005, 02:00:41 PM
Damn Jeff, what calculator are you using? I would kind of doubt some of those expenses:

$500.00 for food? Not unless you are eating at the steakhouse every night

$1035 for tires, Well, if you are using a new set every day. It is only a 3 day race weekend after all

$525.00 for camping? Rent a hotel room accross the street with a couple of people at $80.00 a night = $240/3 = $80.00 each


Etc, etc...
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Clarkie49 on July 22, 2005, 02:24:36 PM
Quote$1035 for tires, Well, if you are using a new set every day. It is only a 3 day race weekend after all...

Should have gone with Dunlops Jeff, 1 set will last you a weekend if your suspension is set up right  ;)
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: rotoboge on July 23, 2005, 03:29:37 AM
QuoteFuel to get there:$500.00 (shared)
Camping:$0.00 (motorhome)
Gate Fee:$100.00
Food:$150.00
Entries:$400.00 (est)
Tires:$675.00 (2 sets of dunlops)
Race fuel:$80.00 (pump gas)

Rough total:$1905.00

So maybe the above modifications are more in line with the budget-minded racer... :)
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Eric Kelcher on July 23, 2005, 04:01:33 PM
To answer the grid question: if there are five people who are all champions, who gets what position is just the luck of the draw.  Normally, though, there are not more than 4 1st place riders for each class.  Reason being, the MW and GP riders are sometimes the same, and/or the MA and SE riders.  But in the strange circumstance that 5 or more show, it's luck of the draw.

There will be a promoter practice on Thursday (however I believe on their schedule they still state Wednesday--but it has been changed), held by Team Hammer.  I do not know the pricing, but if you contact them they can help you out with that.
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2005, 09:30:41 AM
I figured 3 sets of tires.  Michelins are what?  $345/set right?

As for the camping and $0.00 for a motorhome...  Do tell where you intend to park this motorhome for $0.00.  That's where I came up with the $525!  That's what daytona charges for it...  Hell, tent camping is like $300!!!


And food... 7-8 days (or more), 4 people = a lot of food.  
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: rotoboge on July 25, 2005, 07:01:27 PM
QuoteAs for the camping and $0.00 for a motorhome...  Do tell where you intend to park this motorhome for $0.00.

I hear Wal-Mart has plenty of parking... ;)
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Jeff on July 26, 2005, 05:05:37 AM
QuoteI hear Wal-Mart has plenty of parking... ;)

ROFLMAO...  www.rv.net/forum  
I can really appreciate that statement...
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: innotecfd on July 26, 2005, 10:33:49 AM
QuoteI hear Wal-Mart has plenty of parking... ;)
Does that mean we are staying in the motorhome at Daytona also???? I will split the costs for that also!!!
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Zac on July 26, 2005, 11:10:17 AM
QuoteAnd food... 7-8 days (or more), 4 people = a lot of food.  

You don't get to count the cost of food, unless you would just be starving everybody at home or only let them eat apples pilfered out of the nieghbor's orchard.

And the beauty of a motorhome is you don't even need to eat out, so it shouldn't cost any more than being at home.  Just pack a couple cases of ramen noodles and you'll be good to go.

-z.
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Stone on July 26, 2005, 04:32:47 PM
I've been trying to put this thing together for the last week. The first 3 or 4 individuals that dont have bad BO can come with me :D

I can fit 5 bikes (3 in toyhauler and 2 in the back of the truck) and sleep up to 10 people in my new toyhauler. But for the sake of comfort...5 individuals each with their own bed.

The toyhauler is 33 foot and has everything you need to cook a great meal, private bath/toilet and has a flat screen with DVD and surround sound. Plenty of room to sit and relax.

The truck(crewcab ford 250) will be tight with 5 people. But...the three in the back can watch a 10.5 tv with headphones (needed something to keep my son occupied ;D) and the two up front can listen to the radio to pass time.

I get about 15 miles to the gallon if I keep it at 55 mph...mileage may vary due to the loan (havent hauled that much weight yet).

I'm thinking 1200.00 in gas and if what they are saying about camping it should be about 525.00. Divided by 5 I'm guessing that for around 350.00 per person will get us there and pay for camping. Food will not be that expensive if we do all the cooking.

Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: AZ-MilleR on July 26, 2005, 07:44:39 PM
Who needs a DVD?  We all know you'll talk the entire trip without stopping.  It might work out better for your passengers to stay in the toy hauler while driving down the freeway for hours.  It might maintain sanity.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: spyderchick on July 27, 2005, 06:45:16 AM
QuoteWho needs a DVD?  

Faster. Play it over and over and over...
 ;D
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Eric Kelcher on July 27, 2005, 07:06:42 AM
FYI gate pass is included with race pre entry.
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: L8brake731 on July 27, 2005, 08:27:06 AM
Ramen noodles? That's the Seasly go fast secret ;D It works for Elaine!
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: Stone on July 27, 2005, 12:36:47 PM
QuoteWho needs a DVD?  We all know you'll talk the entire trip without stopping.  It might work out better for your passengers to stay in the toy hauler while driving down the freeway for hours.  It might maintain sanity.

 ;D ;D ;D

Damn!!! You guys have figured out my secret plan of attack...Talk ya to death and numb you to the point of exhaustion to lower your riding skillz ;D
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: kz2zx on July 28, 2005, 01:55:11 PM
It's effective :D
Title: Re: Daytona Whisperings...
Post by: rotoboge on July 31, 2005, 01:10:11 PM
QuoteWho needs a DVD?  We all know you'll talk the entire trip without stopping.  It might work out better for your passengers to stay in the toy hauler while driving down the freeway for hours.  It might maintain sanity.

 ;D ;D ;D

ROTFLMAO!!! ;D