Since my season started late due to deployment to the desert, I was thinking of racing a few WERA rounds - simply because there are more opportunities for me just due to schedule. So I was trying to find out if there were options other than the AMB as far as buying that damned transponder and boy was that the wrong question. I was told all about how CCS was basically a joke, and they just raised entry fees to cover transponder cost, and I could go ahead and race CCS until they go out of business because they don't make us buy transponders. ::) Are those guys always like that? I only got to race twice last season (Jennings/Barber) and I couldn't have been happier with the experience. There were some issues with the team challenge stuff at Barber but I think everyone kind of expected it with 3 regions, FUSA, and USGPRU all running that weekend.
I dunno, I guess I was just kind of shocked to get a reponse like that. I thought WERA was an amateur club racing organization just like CCS. Apparently you have no input with WERA unless your bike hauler is an 18 wheeler...
You were acting like a crybaby and got dealt with accordingly. Do you expect WERA's accountant to get in touch with you and justify transponder costs?
Please stay here.
No, the original posting was going fine until some uppity smartass (not unlike yourself) got involved.
I'd rather people from WERA not contact me at all. I have my own 6 and 9 year old's.
Please go away.
WAAAAAAAAA!!!!
damn let it die...it's a free market...run with whomever you like.
I run both orgs and there are things that are great about both and things that suck about both...
I'm fairly certain that it's called life.
QuoteI'd rather people from WERA not contact me at all.
That's a safe bet. I doubt this will happen.
Since you followed the advice to come whine here, here's more:
Try the Better Business Bureau.
p.s. funniest was you crying about your thread getting locked over there. Obviously you haven't met Dawn. ;D
So....Dan is back and now this. ;D
Honestly, 130 Gunner you took things way over the line by coming on here and bashing WERA. Opinions on transponders are one thing, but bringing your complaint over here is only gonna start trouble.
Quotep.s. funniest was you crying about your thread getting locked over there. Obviously you haven't met Dawn. ;D
And Papa just ensured that this thread gets locked over here now too. ;D
Quote So I was trying to find out if there were options other than the AMB as far as buying that damned transponder and boy was that the wrong question.
I was told all about how CCS was basically a joke, and they just raised entry fees to cover transponder cost, and I could go ahead and race CCS until they go out of business because they don't make us buy transponders. ::) Are those guys always like that?
I dunno, I guess I was just kind of shocked to get a reponse like that. I thought WERA was an amateur club racing organization just like CCS. Apparently you have no input with WERA unless your bike hauler is an 18 wheeler...
No your question was answered. You and your buddy over there jsut did not like the answer.
yeah those guys are always like that. Heres an idea....start a thread over here on CCS's dime bashing them, Iam sure you will get alot of helpful replies. You are about as cluesless as they come. WERA makes $0 on the transponders, they sell them for what it costs them, CCS does indeed charge you for them they just wrap into the fees. Do some looing and you will see that when they went to transponders their price went up. No big deal but they are not providing them for free.
I am not going to bad mouth CCS, because unlike you I have atleast half a brain. I hope you enjoy CCS because I would hate to have people like you around bring down the WERA paddock.
None of the that was meant to be in any way a slam on CCS or how they are run.........I do that in the WERA BBS ;D
No, haven't met Dawn. If that's what it takes, I haven't had a reason to. Hadn't had one at the WERA board either. Actually, hadn't had a bit of trouble about anything at any time. I can't recall Dawn resorting to namecalling and thread locking every time someone says something Dawn doesn't like. As far as the WERA board - Mongo didn't feel the need to go off the deep end and act like an 8 year old, the other two did.
I don't plan on carrying on a bash session about WERA. It's not WERA, the only problem was with 2 individuals (not Mongo, who is the only one I feel acutally represents WERA.) I just thought it was quite funny that according to the sweet valley high fan club over there, CCS is going out of business because they don't make racers buy transponders.
Strick - And yet another one comes along and adds random crap to what I said. Care to quote my post that remotely sounds like WERA making money off of transponders? Oh right - I didn't.
And if those guys are always tlike that - I'm not sure how anyone could "bring down the WERA paddock" to a greater degree than that.
And as far as entry fees - YOU brought this one up. I know what the fees are, no need to rehash them here.
I asked if the AMB transponder was the only one that would work. Of course it is, I should have known there wouldn't have been another option available. Then people start bringing up like entry fees and WERA profits, etc. Someone else went even further and asked why I wanted all the benefits of what the transponder provides but not pay for it - RIGHT AFTER I had said I don't want/need any of that. Some say it's only $300, and I shouldn't be racing if that's too much. I say I can only make a few events a year, and that takes away one of those because that's a set of tires. Tires - I need. Neat-o lap times I can look up on mylaps - don't need. Sorry I don't qualify for WERA elite status by buying a new R6 every year and don't think a $300 transponder is a good value.
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80971
Read the thread here. I see six posts out of the first seven (In the 7th one, Paige matter-of-factly answered the question without comment.) dripping with attitude, begging for the responses given.
A transponder is required, just like a steering damper is required by WERA. How come I never see threads whining about having to buy a steering damper when CCS doesn't require them?
BTW, don't blame this post on another WERA "Yes man". I'm an LRRS (CCS affiliate) official.
QuoteNo big deal but they are not providing them for free.
What next? There's no Santa Claus either? No tooth fairy?
Come on, everybody knows CCS is a charity and doesn't care about turning a profit.
Our proud daddy of two (ages 7 & 9, right? I forget) is so clueless he didn't even realize that the part about CCS going out of business was sarcasm. ::)
JB - No problem with a steering damper, at least its a safety item. But they don't say you have to buy the Ohlins damper. That's like safety belt laws, protecting people from themsleves. Otherwise, you'd see some dude out there on an R1 with no damper. That's fine, if I aboslutely have to race WERA I'll probably rent a transponder. I guess renting is the real ripoff, but I know they do it to encourage purchase because keeping up with renting is a pain. Fair enough. And as far as the original thread, the first things mentioned about the transponder "issue" were in jest. I responded to Paige's first post with "that's what I thought, but thanks for the heads up!" Then the trouble started, with the two children "in charge". (Notice Mogo's posts. Completely different, no? A much better way to handle things.)
Hey genius, did it occur to you that Mongo and the children might discuss things before responses appear on WERA's board? Or that Mongo has the ability to delete what he disagrees with?
Ah, forget it. Mongo thinks you were perfectly justified and encourages you to return and start a new thread on the fairness of the transponder rule. He feels it wasn't argued enough over the winter.
In before the LOCK. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteHey genius, did it occur to you that Mongo and the children might discuss things before responses appear on WERA's board? Or that Mongo has the ability to delete what he disagrees with?
You guys said what I would so no need to change a word. Thanks by the way for the help, you'll be seeing a raise in your next pay envelope :D
QuoteIn before the LOCK. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOL. ;D
Where's Dawn? Watching AMA racing?
QuoteLOL. ;D
Where's Dawn? Watching AMA racing?
Could be out shovelling snow. ;D Ya know how much snow those Yoopers get? ;D
QuoteCould be out shovelling snow. ;D Ya know how much snow those Yoopers get? ;D
Well, it's raining here and she is in the next state over. Maybe her septic system overflowed out in the field or something. ;D
QuoteIn before the LOCK. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
Dawn's prolly cleaning out the toyhauler after the AMA trip. But she'll be back....
i love train wreck threads. ;D
I've learned something about camping at Road America.....
It's a LOT quieter in the paddock than in the "designated motor home camping."
Boys + Beer = Brainless Buttheads
If I hear another AAARRRRGGGG! I will shoot someone.
... and payback is best served by a woman on a ZX-6 when all the boys have a hangover. ;D
Dawn ;)
Quote... and payback is best served by a woman on a ZX-6 when all the boys have a hangover. ;D
Dawn ;)
Did you remove the muffler? Henry DeGouw pays a bonus if you do! ;D
AAARRRRGGGG!
QuoteDid you remove the muffler? Henry DeGouw pays a bonus if you do! ;D
Henry was there! I wish I could have met him....
No I didn't remove the muffler.... the Vance & Hines header and pipe is quite loud enough. I made sure they ate a little grass too since they were kind enough to spray a few motor homes themselves. I didn't even need to put a foot down.... ;D I've had enough practice in the dirt to get that move down pat.
;)
QuoteI've learned something about camping at Road America.....
It's a LOT quieter in the paddock than in the "designated motor home camping."
Boys + Beer = Brainless Buttheads
If I hear another AAARRRRGGGG! I will shoot someone.
... and payback is best served by a woman on a ZX-6 when all the boys have a hangover. ;D
Dawn ;)
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!
;D
QuoteAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!
;D
BANG!
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AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!
QuoteI made sure they ate a little grass too since they were kind enough to spray a few motor homes themselves. I didn't even need to put a foot down.... ;D I've had enough practice in the dirt to get that move down pat.
;)
The only WERA race I've ever been to was the 1992 Pocono Cycle Jam. Vanson Leathers sponsored the Pro Twins Classic there after the AMA dropped the class the previous year. We stayed at the Jack and Jill Campgrounds down the street to get away from the noisy all-night drag races they used to have. Some clowns the next campsite over from us kept us awake until 2-3 in the morning. We were up bright and early the next morning, they weren't. So we safety wired dead fish to the underside of their intakes before we left for the day. ;D ;D (Statute of Limitations expired on that one, so no flames!)
So who's the guy from the desert going to race with now? WERA doesn't like him, and CCS is going to put up with him...
QuoteAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!
;D
Seems me had heard that one far and avast beforetimes.
ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) ;D
QuoteCould be out shovelling snow. ;D Ya know how much snow those Yoopers get? ;D
Dawn is not a yooper, she's from the same state as you are, silly. Now Stumpy and gang? They are yoopers! :P
What's "WERA"?
I got my hug from Dawn yesterday! Life is gooood
QuoteWhat's "WERA"?
Don't you go startin' nutin'...we all need to play nice.
:o ::) ;)
Ya'all know me better than THAT!
QuoteYa'all know me better than THAT!
Yeah, that's why I'm going to put "Rabble Rouser" on your butt next time I get your leathers! ;D
QuoteDawn is not a yooper, she's from the same state as you are, silly.
Dawn's from Victoria also? ;D
QuoteDawn's from Victoria also? ;D
You do understand that smart a$$es will be dealt with appropriately... :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteYou do understand that smart a$$es will be dealt with appropriately... :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Promises promises promises. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
No wonder I've been feeling so sh@tty! I haven't had my KB hug in months. :o Well... actually, I've never had one :'(
You're personal wes stalker KB ;) 8)
seems like the OTHER org should have been smart enough to do it like CCS did.
instead of.... "gas isn't going to cost you any extra this year, but we need 300+dollars from you before you buy the first gallon".
but oh well....... what did you expect.
Gunner, Dawn has deleted my posts and deemed them offensive, over funny remarks I made about FIB's
Quoteseems like the OTHER org should have been smart enough to do it like CCS did.
instead of.... "gas isn't going to cost you any extra this year, but we need 300+dollars from you before you buy the first gallon".
but oh well....... what did you expect.
he's aliiiiiiiiiiive!!!!
;D
now get back to lurking.