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Title: Transponders
Post by: Linda_Hipps on May 12, 2005, 07:56:06 AM
Listed below are missing transponders. Please email at lindahipps@clearchannel.com or send them attention Linda 3001 Ramona Drive Fort Worth,Texas 76116. I will be sending letters out 05/13/05. Remember the cost of a transponder is $300.00.


Heath Small #27 Issued 03/04 at Daytona

John Groover #830 Issued 03/04 at Daytona
Sherry Dowling #49 Issued 03/04 at Daytona
Nathon Hester #82 Issued 03/04 at Daytona
Kreshna Pribadi #101 Issued 03/04 at Daytona

Carl Shefchik #217 Issued 04/22 at Road America
Hester Racing #182TC Issued 03/04 at Daytona
LC Racing #265TC Issued 03/04at Daytona
John Filice #707 Issued 03/04 at Daytona
C Young #392 Issued 03/04 at Daytona

All so I have a transponder with know name attached if anyone has transponder #6174 please return it to the office.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Gixxerblade on May 12, 2005, 08:20:09 AM
I wonder how one goes about proving they turned their transponder in? I know I turned it in, just can't prove it. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Chuck on May 12, 2005, 08:46:05 AM
I had 2 transponders for the weekend...one wasn't picking up so I swapped it out at the tech area, and then at the end of the weekend that big older guy with CCS came to our pit area in a brown Minivan and had us give them all to him.  I hope I don't get charged for a transponder I didn't lose.  :(

Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Burt Munro on May 12, 2005, 09:07:44 AM
Quote... and then at the end of the weekend that big older guy with CCS came to our pit area in a brown Minivan and had us give them all to him.  I hope I don't get charged for a transponder I didn't lose.  :(


Looks like you're off the hook Chuck!

Are you sure you didn't have it mounted on your pit bike that came up missing? ;D

Either that or Larry in Tech must have fessed up that he stole it to use on his pit bike! :)
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Chuck on May 12, 2005, 09:31:32 AM
QuoteLooks like you're off the hook Chuck!

Are you sure you didn't have it mounted on your pit bike that came up missing? ;D

Either that or Larry in Tech must have fessed up that he stole it to use on his pit bike! :)

haha....very funny...  ;)
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: tzracer on May 12, 2005, 09:54:19 AM
I got a letter about a missing transponder last year. I had returned it. I spoke with Linda about it. They were able to locate the transponder. It seemed at the time that what triggered the letter was the fact that the paperwork did not show it as returned, not that the actual transponder was missing.

When I return a transponder, I like to watch the person check off that it has been returned.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Chuck on May 12, 2005, 11:31:45 AM
I won't be handing mine off to anyone collecting them in the pit area anymore...even if he is an official.  I would hate to have to pay for one of those.  I do have to say once I explained my situation I was promptly taken off the list.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: R1abuser on May 12, 2005, 02:27:28 PM
I thought I saw a transponder in your toolbox Chuck !  Fess up !   ;D
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Chuck on May 12, 2005, 02:37:04 PM
again...very funny   :D
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on May 12, 2005, 09:11:26 PM
     Seems I have one of the last races at every event and I end up being one of the later people returning my transponder at each event because of it. So far this season I have had someone come around at all 3 events just minutes before I would have been leaving and dropping the transponder off along the way. I have given up the transponder all 3 times to the person with the box of them, but I was defenitely reluctant for the very reasons mentioned above since they weren't being checked off at that time. I think if their going to continue doing this in the future they need to have a list with them to check the transponders off at that time while you witness it.

     I have a suggestion, how about when the last few races roll around for the weekend they have someone (or 2) at 'pit in' with a pair of side cutters to cut the zip tie(s) holding the transponder on, then take it off right there and check it off on a list at that time. Since I would imagine it's the people with races late in the day that are the last to return them, this could save alot of time of having to chase the transponders down in the pits and eliminate the constant calls over the P.A. system. To speed up the process even more print out the transponder #'s of each of the riders in those last races on grid sheets that the person(s) collecting them could quickly check off. This would also identify quickly who still has their transponder.

     I think since this would save time for the competitors, as well as the CCS staff, it would be a win/win situation for both. I would imagine doing the last 4 races of the day would probably do it. I bet if there was a collection person at 'pit in' available thruout the day as riders came in from their races it could prove to be a very effective system to collect all the transponders. :)
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: spyderchick on May 13, 2005, 06:19:35 AM
I think that's a good idea Mike, but the staff to do the pit exit collection might not be available at every race. However, if they do collect your transponder in the paddock, it would be better if they had a list to check off so the racer doesn't get charged inadvertantly.

The best thing to to would be to let CCS know about this so they can streamline their system.  
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: tzracer on May 13, 2005, 07:03:18 AM
I think what would help, is after they have all the transponders back in the cases, to double check to see that every transponder is checked off that is in the case. In my case they went strictly by the paperwork since the transponders are sent directly from event to event without returning to Texas.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: CCS243 on May 13, 2005, 07:14:23 AM
QuoteI think that's a good idea Mike, but the staff to do the pit exit collection might not be available at every race. However, if they do collect your transponder in the paddock, it would be better if they had a list to check off so the racer doesn't get charged inadvertantly.

The best thing to to would be to let CCS know about this so they can streamline their system.  
???

I'm not sure about the other regions, but at the MA & SE events your turn location is with the trophy person, Betty, in registration, who I refer to as the 3 Ts, t-shirts, trophies and transponders.  She has the sole copy of the check off list.

I/we only cruise the pits to pick up transponders when the competitors put a higher priority on bench racing and consumption of adult beverages than returning the unit after their last event and the staff is waiting to pack up and head home.  :P

The transponders for the two regions remain in the region and support Daytona events.  The Muse's charge & transposrt them along with all the other equipment required to stage each event.

Let's help each other out and surrender them in a timely fashion, and remind your pit buddies to do the same.  :)
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: r1owner on May 13, 2005, 10:29:33 AM
How about a scanner running pocket pc with an application that would scan the barcode on each transponder?  That would be ultra quick.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Gixxerblade on May 13, 2005, 05:14:39 PM
Good idea :)
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: r1owner on May 13, 2005, 06:12:58 PM
Yep,

They could use the scanner(s) when issuing and receiving them.

The application should be pretty easy to write.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Linda_Hipps on May 14, 2005, 08:08:22 PM
Well I guess we could go to AMB and all riders would have to purchase a $300 transponder. Then when you loose them or they get tore up in a crash it would be the riders responsiablity to replace it. Or you could rent them from CCS for the weekend. CCS perfers the westhold transponders and the computer system you riders need to remember to turn them back in at the race track you were issued the transponder that would be nice..and a whole lot easier for all.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: r1owner on May 14, 2005, 08:22:23 PM
QuoteWell I guess we could go to AMB and all riders would have to purchase a $300 transponder. Then when you loose them or they get tore up in a crash it would be the riders responsiablity to replace it. Or you could rent them from CCS for the weekend. CCS perfers the westhold transponders and the computer system you riders need to remember to turn them back in at the race track you were issued the transponder that would be nice..and a whole lot easier for all.


That's fine.  I have no problem remembering to turn it in as long as you remember to mark it off.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: roadracer162 on May 16, 2005, 08:49:17 AM
There is no accurate way of accounting for these transponders without additional manpower or cost other than the racer putting up money in exchange as in a rental.  I would be sure to return it to get my money back. Is it a nuisance??  It sure is.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Pierre - Team PMR on May 16, 2005, 09:32:41 AM
Easy solution....when you turn in your transponder, you get a receipt.  No receipt means you didnt turn one in.  

If you did turn one in and they tell you otherwise, just pull out your receipt and prove to them that you turned it in.  

Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Gixxerblade on May 16, 2005, 09:57:33 AM
QuoteThat's fine.  I have no problem remembering to turn it in as long as you remember to mark it off.
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Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Linda_Hipps on May 24, 2005, 09:00:56 AM
QuoteListed below are missing transponders. Please email at lindahipps@clearchannel.com or send them attention Linda 3001 Ramona Drive Fort Worth,Texas 76116. I will be sending letters out 05/13/05. Remember the cost of a transponder is $300.00.


Heath Small #27 Issued 03/04 at Daytona

John Groover #830 Issued 03/04 at Daytona
Sherry Dowling #49 Issued 03/04 at Daytona
Nathon Hester #82 Issued 03/04 at Daytona
Kreshna Pribadi #101 Issued 03/04 at Daytona

Carl Shefchik #217 Issued 04/22 at Road America
Hester Racing #182TC Issued 03/04 at Daytona
LC Racing #265TC Issued 03/04at Daytona
John Filice #707 Issued 03/04 at Daytona
C Young #392 Issued 03/04 at Daytona

All so I have a transponder with know name attached if anyone has transponder #6174 please return it to the office.

You guys need to call or email me something it is getting down to charging you for the transponder
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: cstem on May 24, 2005, 05:09:30 PM
Hey Linda- FYI, I don't recognize many of those names as folks  that hang out here ( although everyone should to sample my wit and charm).  If anyone knows these guys give them a shout.  As far as trick ways to keep track of transponders, the person at pit in with sidecutters is a good idea, but many racers can't remember what pit speed is, much less to stop after a race when they are all pumped with goofy juice (adrenaline). I have the same trouble when racing bicycles with transponders.  After my race, I usually pull the trans. of the bike and set it with my truck keys or in the my front seat so when I get ready to bail, it is the first thing I see.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Gixxerblade on May 24, 2005, 06:39:59 PM
What is the best way to turn in a transponder after the weekend? Do you turn it into the "transponder person" and make sure they check you off of the list or do you just drop it in the box. I usually just drop it in the box.
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: rotoboge on May 25, 2005, 08:36:15 AM
AMB transponders are great, plus, you get alot of information that can be downloaded after the races. How about this; transponders not turned in, fee charged and points penalty... I am sure most all would abide! ;)
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Dawn on May 25, 2005, 08:42:24 AM
QuoteWhat is the best way to turn in a transponder after the weekend? Do you turn it into the "transponder person" and make sure they check you off of the list or do you just drop it in the box. I usually just drop it in the box.


I always make sure they check me off the list.  Especially if you have to change transponders during the weekend.  

 ;)
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: cstem on May 25, 2005, 06:30:04 PM
GB- I would have to say that turning your transponder in to a person with a check sheet is the best way-however, some regions may not have htis instituted due to lack of people or they just have not been asked to do so.  Pipe up at your next riders meeting or talk to your Race Director and suggest that as a way.  In the SW region, I am not sure how we do it, I do know that I have to announce it ALOT and people stop listening after awhile I have found.  We also have a big sign by the exit (which is hwere we do trophies) and those who forgot to drop in the venue drop there.  As far as points penalties, I would rather not see it come to that.  But I always tell racers that if you take one home you will invariably lose it and it will cost you some bones to replace it- (the fine).  Treat the transponder like it was your cash.  
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: L8brake731 on May 26, 2005, 09:16:20 AM
Like some of you have mentioned; just make damn sure you get some type of validation for the return.

If you don't; well start spending your "new rubber" money on something that CCS has been supplying us for years, not requiring that we purchase one.

A suggestion: since we all have our licenses at the races, why not just have registration take our CCS licenses when they hand us the transponder, place the license in a 3X5 card box, by nmuber or alpha order. This would not require extra man-power (woman), just a few minutes collectively at the end of a race weekend. There would be no need for ticket exchange or voucher printing or receipt printing, etc. Just a couple bucks for the box and some dividers.

Another suggestion: we give you the two year old kid when we pick up the transponder; you give the two year old kid back at the end of the race weekend when we turn in the transponder!
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: Burt Munro on May 26, 2005, 11:34:44 AM
QuoteAnother suggestion: we give you the two year old kid when we pick up the transponder; you give the two year old kid back at the end of the race weekend when we turn in the transponder!

Does the 2 year old kid know how to work corners? ;D
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: K3 Chris Onwiler on May 26, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
QuoteDoes the 2 year old kid know how to work corners? ;D
He will by Sunday!  Not to mention that he'll be smoking, drinking, swearing, and will have his first tattoo!
Title: Re: Transponders
Post by: EX#996 on May 26, 2005, 11:50:22 AM
QuoteHe will by Sunday!  Not to mention that he'll be smoking, drinking, swearing, and will have his first tattoo!


... and telling his parents that this big burly guy by the name of Chris said it was OK!

 ;)