2015 RULES

[Gino230]

Why should the GP bikes be eliminated from GT? They are already eliminated from the Superbike, F40, and Thunderbike classes. Will you guys be happy when they are not allowed in GP either?

If you want to go "all WERA like" that's ok with me, they allow frame and engine swaps, as well as downsizing to meet displacement limits. So the hybrids and the 565 would be allowed in superbike.

[LWT Racer]

Why should the GP bikes be eliminated from GT? They are already eliminated from the Superbike, F40, and Thunderbike classes. Will you guys be happy when they are not allowed in GP either?

If you want to go "all WERA like" that's ok with me, they allow frame and engine swaps, as well as downsizing to meet displacement limits. So the hybrids and the 565 would be allowed in superbike.

GTL endurance class is what I want them out of because they are finishing top 5 overall no problem because there is almost no speed difference. Faceplant Ducati was 3rd overall at VIR only behind Lloyd Baily (GSXR1000) and Eric Helmbach(s1000rr).  GP is the class they should be allowed in and that's it.

And what you say about WERA rules and SBK is not true. hybrids and 565 are not allowed in SBK. They are only allowed in F2 which is a GP class.

[Capitalview]

GP bikes are allowed in F40.

[apriliaman]

GTL endurance class is what I want them out of because they are finishing top 5 overall no problem because there is almost no speed difference. Faceplant Ducati was 3rd overall at VIR only behind Lloyd Baily (GSXR1000) and Eric Helmbach(s1000rr).  GP is the class they should be allowed in and that's it.

And what you say about WERA rules and SBK is not true. hybrids and 565 are not allowed in SBK. They are only allowed in F2 which is a GP class.

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[bruce71198]

Can of worms; open here........

[tony216]

If they pulled LWGP bikes out of GTL, they should allow all LWGP bikes in Thunderbike.  I think they fit the theme of the class better than the 749R does. 

[Gino230]

GTL endurance class is what I want them out of because they are finishing top 5 overall no problem because there is almost no speed difference. Faceplant Ducati was 3rd overall at VIR only behind Lloyd Baily (GSXR1000) and Eric Helmbach(s1000rr).  GP is the class they should be allowed in and that's it.

And what you say about WERA rules and SBK is not true. hybrids and 565 are not allowed in SBK. They are only allowed in F2 which is a GP class.

Yes and the top finishing SV was 8th overall, ahead of ALL but one of the 600 teams. Also Faceplant was Greg Melka riding who is one of the top club racers in the US.

RE WERA; frame and engine swaps ARE PERMITTED in SB classes.

[Gino230]

If they pulled LWGP bikes out of GTL, they should allow all LWGP bikes in Thunderbike.  I think they fit the theme of the class better than the 749R does. 

I think we should rebuild the entire class structure so the SV can dominate. Forget all those Ducati guys. Forget that the bike is 10 years old. Forget that the SV's still win the majority of LW races. Hell, if CCS were smart, they'd just ditch all the LW classes and make it the SV cup!

Which begs the question.....if this is such a pressing issue, why isn't it in front of the rules committee? I believe the Daytona mailer stated there were no proposals in front of the committee?

I am only getting sucked into this discussion out of boredom anyway, as I said, I made the move to Middleweight.

[LWT Racer]

Yes Greg is amazing. So is that bike. End of story.

That SV/Ducati discussion can stay in the other thread.  We don't need to repeat it all AGAIN.

There is no need to submit a proposal to CCS about it because Kevin isn't going to do anything.  The only viable rule changed is to have TC moved to end of day on Saturday.


Also, CCS should dump supertwins, and yes I race supertwins but it's a waste of time to have 4 bikes out there, they are losing money on that.

[LWT Racer]

RE WERA; frame and engine swaps ARE PERMITTED in SB classes.

You are still wrong about WERA SBK. This is from WERA rulebook

"In Superbike the original combination of frame and motor must be maintained except in the case of similar models with directly interchangeable engines." 

[tony216]

I don't have an SV. Just stating my opinion.

I think we should rebuild the entire class structure so the SV can dominate. Forget all those Ducati guys. Forget that the bike is 10 years old. Forget that the SV's still win the majority of LW races. Hell, if CCS were smart, they'd just ditch all the LW classes and make it the SV cup!

Which begs the question.....if this is such a pressing issue, why isn't it in front of the rules committee? I believe the Daytona mailer stated there were no proposals in front of the committee?

I am only getting sucked into this discussion out of boredom anyway, as I said, I made the move to Middleweight.

[LWT Racer]

Tony, you should be mad your Buells are being left out of all this controversy. 





Or do they take themselves out.