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Proposed New Tire Rule (or lack of!)

Started by mikendzel, September 15, 2011, 08:42:08 AM

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roadracer162

Understand that Mark which only goes along with my meaning. If you want all the bikes even then it would be a cup race, whether it be the SV cup or more recently the Ninja 250 cup. Everyone can afford that bike. There is nothing stopping anyone from spending bucco bucks on the SV, and there have been some elaborate SV machinery around. I seem to remember one specifically that cost somewhere in the realm of $50K. That's a Bimota and then some.
Mark Tenn
CCS Ex #22
Mark Tenn Motorsports, Michelin tire guy in Florida.

Gino230

Quote from: MACOP1104 on November 04, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
The SV is a moderately priced bike and could destroy a Hawk or an EX500 SS prepped.  A DB5R costs how much?

The DB5 is certainly a big advantage, and a very expensive one at that. There are still 1000DS available, Charlie Mavros has done pretty well on his 1100 monster this year as well.

But I was responding to the idea that SUPERSPORT class rules are a recipe for expense- Most MW bikes are pretty even in stock form- LW bikes, not so much. As I said though, there will always be someone willing to spend big bucks to build a bike to class limits. And none of the DB5s running currently in CCS (FL anyways) are SS legal.

Sorry for the hijack- not that it should matter, this board has had like 10 posts in the last 30 days....
CCS / ASRA EX # 23
2012 Ducati 848 / 1100 Conversion     2005 Ducati 749RS
2006 CCS Florida Thunderbike Champion (AM)
2008 CCS LW Supersport National Champion (EX) 2nd in 2011 and now  2012....damn you Mavros!

red900

Im way late on this thread, but i agree with Ben.  Slicks and DOT's are very similar and offer little to to no advantage over each other.   

I wrote a nice long email to Kevin about this very subject back in October.  Of course, there was no reply. 

This would benifit both the racing org as people would probobly sign up for more races if they did not need a different set of tires and it would be easier on the tire vendors reducing our inventory needs. 

Years and years ago there were major differences in the two tires but things have changes.  Modern technology has brought the manufacturers to produce one carcass ("Diablo" for Pirelli) and either put sipes in the tire or dont.  Same tire, with or without sipes. 

The wear tends to be better on the current model slicks mainly because of the flex differences when a sipe is introduced to the OD of the tire. 

I hope someone comes to their senses on this subject...

Dustin Boyd
Cyclepath Racing LLC
Midwest Race Supplier

Woofentino Pugrossi

Well Dustin, they will need a different set if its raining. At least with DOT you can still go. Slicks and water arent a good combo. :biggrin:
Rob
CCS MW#14 EX, ASRA #141
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Hollywood

This thread hasn't been updated in a while, but I would absolutely give CCS another $50 or $80 every race weekend to race Unlimited Supersport on my already-purchased Dunlop slicks. I, along with at least 4 other UNL racers that I know pretty well all watch the UNL SS races from the sidelines because spending $400 for a set of DOT's to run 2 races per set (or thereabouts) just isn't in the budget. Plus, would it make it easier for all of the tire suppliers to only worry about bringing just slicks and rains? Seems like it would make things a little more streamlined. 

I hope in 2013 CCS strongly reconsiders this opportunity. :cheers:
ASRA/CCS EX#20  
www.rpmmotorsportsracing.com

klebs01

Any update on this?  Other orgs are changing, and it would be nice to simplify the tire situation for next year.
Nathan Kleba  AM #72

mikendzel

Quote from: Hollywood on June 04, 2012, 08:50:04 PM
This thread hasn't been updated in a while, but I would absolutely give CCS another $50 or $80 every race weekend to race Unlimited Supersport on my already-purchased Dunlop slicks. I, along with at least 4 other UNL racers that I know pretty well all watch the UNL SS races from the sidelines because spending $400 for a set of DOT's to run 2 races per set (or thereabouts) just isn't in the budget. Plus, would it make it easier for all of the tire suppliers to only worry about bringing just slicks and rains? Seems like it would make things a little more streamlined. 

I hope in 2013 CCS strongly reconsiders this opportunity. :cheers:


EXACTLY!  That was the reason I started the thread!  Hopefully I can race next year, this year my baby forced me to the sidelines. 

roadracer162

We could go to a one tire rule and that would solve the problem. Each manufacturer would put there bid in to sponsor the series and supply the tire.
Mark Tenn
CCS Ex #22
Mark Tenn Motorsports, Michelin tire guy in Florida.

Rick Johnson 29

I would  still like to see a tire rule change for Unlimited Supersport. We should be able to run Slicks in SS. We are allowed to run them in ASRA Superstock. So CCS please change this rule for us Unlimited racers. I think you will see more entries in SS if you do. Thanks!
Rick Johnson
Expert 29, ASRA 291, Wera 29
2011 SE Unlimited SS Champ                                                               
2011 2nd MA GTO,UnlimitedSB,SS,GP                                                   08 Suzuki GSXR 1000

black89

I would like to use slicks in unlimited SS too. Currently I run DOT's in all the other Unlimited classes and they don't last as long as slicks so I have to spend more on tires then I would if I could just use slicks.

Wera did this and everybody is happy.


roadracer162

Have you guys sent your proposal to Texas. I don't think you will get it done here and if there isn't a formal proposal in by the time their committee convenes then it would be too late, soo sad.

Mark Tenn
CCS Ex #22
Mark Tenn Motorsports, Michelin tire guy in Florida.

design-engine

dont you see! its all about spending more money!